Wednesday - November 17, 2010

HISTORIAN AND MR. EGO BLAMES BUSH AGAIN,AGAIN,AGAIN,AGAIN.BAD BUSH, NAUGHTY USA …

And this bit of Bush bad mouthing is from a conservative.  I’ve read one or two of his history books but think I need to question a bit more his conclusions. He makes statements here I know aren’t spot on.  For example, he says “It is probably no coincidence that Nazi Germany employed the most brutal security methods of any nation in the Second World War, yet had the worst intelligence about its enemies.”
Yeah but not because they used torture.  The Russians sure as heck were their equal if not their betters when it came to torture.  As it happens, I’ve just finished a book called “Stalin’s Follies” and what an eye opener that was.  Anyway, German intel mostly failed for other reasons and the Soviets had em beat at that too.
Bottom line ... according to this loony tune, as usual, it’s all due to Bush. It’s ALL his fault.

Sometimes I just have to post things like this.  Not saying our people haven’t made mistakes or wrong footed something. But I question things like this.

In this war, the West is supposed to stand for democracy, freedom and truth. But Guantanamo has become a global byword for repression and cruelty, conducted in the name of the U.S. and its allies. 

Bullshit Mr. Hastings.  It’s being fought to keep the scummy bastards at arms distance. I don’t buy the democracy and freedom thing as regards the ragheads who pray with their ass in the air and brainwash their women to accept subservience as normal.  Talk till you’re blue in the face, those folks have no use for and wouldn’t know what to do with truth and freedom and democracy. And you only have to read the signs they happily hold before the cameras in your own streets when they protest democracy and freedom.  The only freedom they approve of is theirs. And the freedom they want is the freedom to bury the west.
And they eventually will do just that as long as there are folks like you who should know better, who give them the moral support they need by bad mouthing our own side so publicly. Putz!  With regard to all the money that will be given away to the terrorist scum. That’s what happens in both our countries when you allow civil rights lawyers to run things.

COMMENTARY: MAX HASTINGS

This is the price of Blair’s slavish backing for Bush

Many people in this country will be very angry – and rightly so – that ‘British’ former inmates of Guantanamo Bay detention centre are to receive compensation from the taxpayer of up to £1million each.

The beneficiaries are people who may have legal title to British citizenship, but have shown themselves at least sympathetic to Al Qaeda, and bitterly hostile to the West.

Binyam Mohamed, for example, was arrested in Pakistan eight years ago on suspicion of planning a ‘dirty bomb’. Omar Deghayes, 38, was born in Libya, moved to Britain as a child but preferred to live in Afghanistan under Taliban rule.

Even if there was insufficient proof of their participation in terrorism to secure court convictions, most of those who were released to Britain from American custody regard themselves as foes of this country. Now they are about to get rich out of us.

This is an ugly story, which once again seems to highlight the weakness of the West, reveals the exploitation of human rights law which makes us a soft touch and involves huge waste of public money.

However our government had little choice save to approve this out-of-court settlement. It was advised that, if these men’s cases went to full hearings, the legal costs would be enormous, sensitive intelligence would be made public and, in any case, the Government was bound to lose.

All litigation involving Guantanamo detainees is fatally compromised by the fact that some, if not all, are now acknowledged to have been subjected to torture. Britain’s intelligence services at the very least knew how they were being treated.

Some victims allege that Secret Intelligence Service or MI5 officers were present at their interrogations. Crucially, the Bush administration has been exposed as having lied systematically about its maltreatment of prisoners while being aware it was taking place.

Indeed, an American security expert says: ‘What happened at Guantanamo is a case study in everything that was wrong with the Bush administration.’

After 9/11, when Washington’s neo-conservatives declared their misnamed ‘war on terror’, Bush and his cohorts decided that extraordinary times demanded extraordinary measures. There followed a bonfire of legal safeguards against the mistreatment of suspected terrorists.

Washington sought somewhere to hold out of reach of federal jurisdiction. The American-owned Pacific islands of Wake and Guam – and even the possibility of an aircraftcarrier at sea – were all considered.
Claims: Inmates of Guantanamo allege that extreme torture technique, including waterboarding, are used

Claims: Inmates of Guantanamo allege that extreme torture technique, including waterboarding, are used

But in Guantanamo Bay, with its unique legal status as a U.S. base leased from Cuba, the CIA could use extreme interrogation techniques (including waterboarding) to force the prisoners to confess their ‘crimes’.

In his memoirs published last week, former president Bush claims that as a result of these controversial interrogation techniques, vital information was obtained from the prisoners which meant that lives were saved in Britain and America.

However, I know no one in security circles on either side of the Atlantic who believes this. For although torture sometimes persuades hard men to talk, it seldom induces them to tell the truth. It is probably no coincidence that Nazi Germany employed the most brutal security methods of any nation in the Second World War, yet had the worst intelligence about its enemies.

Here’s what some readers have to say.

We dare not speak otherwise the Thought Police will be kick our doors in. They don’t seem to very successful with real TERRORISTS, DO THEY?

- Notyetavet, Blackpool, 17/11/2010 09:55

Pandering and appeasement; is what I call it.
- Mark Rosmar, Romford, Essex, 17/11/2010 07:30

Couldnt have put it better...I would have added gutless as well

- Eddie, Southampton, 17/11/2010 09:55

What a shabby useless heap of garbage we have governing this country, show me proof before you give my money away. I do not believe the recipients of these payments are totally without complicity in trying to destroy the fabric of our society.

- Ron Styles, Yorkshire, 17/11/2010 09:47

HERE’S A LINK TO ALL THE REST

Posted by peiper     on 11/17/2010 at 04:25 PM   
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muslim youths threaten boy who supports brit troops and refuses to claim hatred of troops. typical.

Generally I post only part of an article and give readers the link for the rest.  But this is a very different kind of story.
I’m not surprised at the attitude of the young thugs who by rights should be immediately shot. They are old enough and dangerous enough to be a serious threat.
At this very moment, I am listening to a panel show on BBC Radio 4, where one loopy left wing total ass, is saying violence is okay during protests and demonstrations.  The reason for this particular program and subject tonight, is because of the “student” protests last week that turned violent. There was the usual damage and at one point, one of the slime dropped a fire extinguisher from the roof of a building, narrowly missing a police officer. The jerk being interviewed at the time is okay with that sort of thing.
So then, is it any wonder that there are kids like those described here. In fact, some college lecturer who also was part of the protest, referred to the violent minority as “brilliant.” Just shows you what things have come to here. The police were unprepared and outnumbered. And of course, unarmed.

This isn’t anything to slough off as merely kids stuff. It isn’t. And to think one of the young is a white girl. Good heaven, what was she thinking? Probably an ugly fat slag no white boy would look at.

Five Muslim boys and white girl, all 12, make death threats to classmate who supported British troops

By Claire Ellicott

Last updated at 7:06 PM on 17th November 2010

As the nation paused on Remembrance Day to honour those who had sacrificed their lives for their country, one schoolboy felt particularly proud.

Moved by their bravery, Darius Gill penned a patriotic and heartfelt tribute to the soldiers who had lost their lives at war.

But unknown to the 13-year-old schoolboy, some of his peers took exception to his comments.

A gang of 12-year-old pupils made up of five Muslim boys and one white girl, began plotting a vicious attack on Darius – whose father is Asian – for supporting British troops.

The pupils, none of whom can be named for legal reasons, have now been suspended from a school in Coventry and may be expelled after posting their chilling threats online.

One message - littered with spelling mistakes - said: ‘Fight on Monday gonna be heavy knuckle dusters nd knifes hopefully I don’t die.’

Another pupil added: ‘ill bang him ma slef am a terrorist.’

One member of the gang also posted a picture of himself holding a rifle and threatened to hijack a plane.

Other pupils - who have set up a Muslim Defence League which celebrates British deaths in Afghanistan - also added comments condemning Darius.

But fortunately, the schoolboy’s mother Clare Allington read the comments on Monday morning - the day of the promised attack - and immediately pulled her son out of school.

Yesterday, Mrs Allington, 42, a trainee teacher from Coventry, said: ‘I logged on and it broke my heart. I was reading all sorts about knuckle dusters, knives and death.

‘They were planning to attack him at school that day so I rang the school straight away.’

She added that she usually keeps an eye on her son’s posts on facebook.

‘I have his password and usually check it every day but didn’t last weekend until I was at the Warwick University campus on Monday.

‘If I hadn’t read the threats and pulled my son out of school he could be dead.

‘They might just be school children but they are fanatical and dangerous. The threats have to be taken seriously.’

Even yesterday, one of the yobs, who can’t be named because of their age, bragged about being quizzed by police and continued his threats to attack Darius.

He posted: ‘IM IN TROUBLE WIV DE POLICE CUZ OF SUSSPICIAN OF THREAT TO DARIUS OVER FB U HAVE A RITE TO REMAIN SILENCE!!! (JOKES) BUT IM IN TROUBLLE WIV DE POLICE IM BANGGIN DARIUS THURSDAY NO1 JUMP IN 1 v 1.’

The abuse and threats came after Darius posted two pictures showing British troops on Armistice Day on facebook.

On November 11, he wrote: ‘RIP TO ALL THE LADS WHO NEVER MADE IT HOME.’

He was then branded ‘racist’ and two of the accused pupils began a flurry of MSN messages to each other setting out what they were going to do to Darius.

One wrote to Darius on facebook saying ‘r u being racist?’ and criticised him for failing to acknowledge the dead soldiers in the Middle East.

Darius tried to explain that the poppies honoured British troops and also said he was remembering his great-great uncle who died on the first day of the Battle of the Somme in 1916 aged just 17.

The unnamed pupil’s facebook profile is full of chilling references to Islamic fundamentalism and shows a picture of him posing with an AK47 rifle.

He also penned a terrifying poem about hijacking a plane.

On November 12, he wrote: ‘You better watch what the **** flies outta ya mouth.

‘Or I’ma hijack a plane and fly it into your house Burn your apartment with your family tied to the couch.

‘And slit your throat, so when you scream, only blood comes out.’

Principal Wendy Thomas said facebook was an increasing concern for schools.

She said: ‘Darius is the victim of bullying. All the students involved have told me they did not mean what they said but they will learn a hard lesson from this.

‘Facebook is a big concern for schools and we urge all parents to monitor what their children say on the site.

‘As soon as the school was notified about the comments on Monday we interviewed the pupils.

‘No weapons were found on any of the pupils. We notified the police and they are investigating the incident.’

The students attend the 1,250-pupil Sidney Stringer Academy in Coventry which caters for children aged 11-18. Muslim pupils make up 65 per cent of the pupils.

Mrs Allington added: ‘My son wrote supporting the British troops in Afghanistan and also said he was sad so many soldiers had died.

‘The so-called Muslim Defence League, which has been set up in the school by a number of pupils, believe that Darius should join them in hating British soldiers.

‘It’s appalling and extremely upsetting for Darius.’

SOURCE

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   Tuesday - November 16, 2010

British terror suspects to get up to £10million compensation. they’re brits like I’m the pope. 

The damn thing is .... most aren’t Brits at all. And that Bin Man sure as hell isn’t. OK, what if by some odd chance some of em are telling the truth?
Our folks could not have seen this coming I don’t think.  But I believe both our people on the ground need to get smarter and just disappear these sort of folks.
No record of arrests or detention.  Everything quiet. Some folks might ask questions but let em ask.  With nothing to prove there won’t be anything to answer for.
Pretty stark and pretty extreme perhaps. But then, so is the enemy we face.  Not only Brit libtards but even some conservatives here are jumping on the human rights bandwagon and wringing their collective hands and weeping crocodile tears (some are) about how mean and awful both our intel services treated these folks. For shame they say. And America’s standing and image has been badly hurt. Yeah well, I’m not too sure we need the good thoughts and gropes of those complaining fools. In fact, I’d be worried if they approved of us. It would be a sure sign we have moved even further to the left. Or they want a loan.
I think we should redesign our flag. Smack in the middle of the red and white stripes, we should put a middle finger up to the world. I think I’ve hit on something. 

Hey ... off the subject posted here but I just found out something I had not known.  It was reported in a paper today, that this country has given 5 BILLION plus
in aid to Somalia.  In dollars, that’s a hell of a lot of tribute. Oh woops. Sorry. It’s “aid” innit?

See the link below. If any of this three are ever on a plane you’re on, get the hell off.

The ‘tortured’ 16: More than a dozen British terror suspects to get up to £10million compensation

By Daily Mail Reporter

Last updated at 3:47 PM on 16th November 2010

* Guantanamo detainee Binyam Mohamed to get one of the largest payouts
* Taxpayer could have be left with bill in excess of £50m if case went to court
* Ministers acted to halt release of half a million secret documents

Sixteen terror suspects who were allegedly tortured at the behest of the United States are being paid millions of pounds from the taxpayer in return for their silence over British involvement.

At least one former Guantanamo Bay detainee will receive more than £1million in hush money from ministers desperate to stop the cases reaching court.

One of the largest payouts will go to Binyam Mohamed, the British resident who claims MI5 and MI6 fed questions to his CIA-backed torturers.

The Government refused to confirm or deny reports that the total compensation was £5 million or £10 million.

The cash is being handed over in secret deals without any evidence being shown to the public that Britain condoned or was complicit in what happened.

In return for the cash, the detainees will drop the civil cases for damages that had threatened to lift the lid on the activities of the intelligence agencies after 9/11.

Shami Chakrabarti, director of Liberty, said: ‘It’s not very palatable but there is a price to be paid for lawlessness and torture in freedom’s name. There are torture victims who were entitled to expect protection from their country. The Government now accepts torture is never justified and we were all let down. Let’s learn the lessons and move on.’

PHOTOS AND MORE HERE

Thing is Shami-rami ding dong ... this really IS NOT THEIR COUNTRY!  I kinda doubt it’s any more yours then it is mine.

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   Saturday - November 13, 2010

England remembers its fallen while itself falls prey to self delusion

At the stroke of the clock on 11am every November 11th ... people all over this country stop for 2 minutes of silence in remembrance of those soldiers who fell in service to their country.  If you’re in a store for example, at exactly 11am everything will stop. People remain silent for two minutes, or most do. Out on the street it’s the same.  And this Sunday there will be services on what is called Remembrance Sunday.

For a couple of weeks leading up to Nov. 11, there is The Poppy Appeal - supporting The Royal British Legion. http://www.poppy.org.uk/

There are stores and outlets everywhere that folks can buy a red paper flower, just like this one.  Some people collect donations door to door.  One of our neighbors brings around a collection box every year in which we deposit some money. We take a couple of the red poppies and they are worn by most people. Everywhere you go you will see folks wearing these.

Monies collected every year go to ex servicemen and women for things like ...

Well now .... enter the vilest scum of the earth. The lice infested, unwashed grizzly bearded fugitives from the dark ages.  Yeah, who else.
mudslims. People who come here and insist on changing their host country to the slum and filth and ignorance of the shit hole they came from. And they also manage to turn native born mudslims to their creepy cause.  None of them really belong here, but they know how to work the system because democracy has decided it’s better to commit national suicide then lower the boom on these worthless, useless non human life forms.  Who by the way, do understand their right to demonstrate and of course they did. On Nov. 11 at 11 am where they thought up the brilliant idea of burning a giant poppy in protest of what they say is the murder of muslims in other countries.  They don’t seem to demonstrate much over the killings by the thousands of muslims by other muslims. Have you noticed that?  Not that I personally care how many of their brothers they kill.  The more the better. Anyway ... a very small group it should be said held their insulting demo ....

And one of my very favorite very conservative columnists had this to say about that.

We should let these vile jihadists burn in Hell

Richard Littlejohn

There is nothing more despicable than defiling the memory of our dead servicemen and women.
Why should we have to tolerate those Islamic hatemongers who disrupted yesterday’s two minutes’ silence, setting fire to a giant poppy and brandishing placards reading: ‘British soldiers burn in Hell.’

Offensive: These Muslim rabble-rousers should all have been banged up
If that isn’t incitement, I don’t know what is. They looked like the same crowd demonstrating outside the Old Bailey last week when that Muslim madwoman was convicted of stabbing MP Stephen Timms.

Yet although 50 people took part in this atrocity, there were only three arrests - and judging by the pictures it was the counter-demonstrators from the so-called English Defence League who had their collars felt.

If these Muslim rabble-rousers hate this country so much, why don’t they leave and set up shop in an Islamic theocracy?
We could give them every encouragement by stopping their benefits, as a basis for negotiation.
They should all have been banged up and, if they weren’t born here (as, sadly, I suspect most them were) they should have their citizenship revoked and be put on the first plane out.

At the moment these vile jihadists are spitting in our faces and laughing at our cowardice, while abusing the freedoms countless British soldiers have died to defend.

MORE LITTLEJOHN

I really don’t believe that one soldier gave up a life or limb to secure the freedoms of jihadists. The army is made up of volunteers. Who in their right mind would volunteer to risk all, to insure the free movement of scum who want to kill your family in your own country.

I haven’t been here long enough to become an expert on things Brit. But I have seen enough to believe that the left really does rule no matter who is in office. I think I’ve read and seen and heard enough to convince me that these folks will not have another Dunkirk or Trafalgar or Waterloo.
The future of this island is all behind it because there isn’t anyone around who is able to save it. Or anyone with the stones to do what desperately needs doing.
Which very simply put is ... Killing! On a very large scale.  But it will never happen.  They’ll try and educate their way out of this morass. They’ll find to their regret that it won’t be as easy as banning cigarettes. 

Posted by peiper     on 11/13/2010 at 04:38 PM   
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   Tuesday - November 09, 2010

the ever alert court of the ROP sentence a Christian woman to death for blasphemy..

Well those compassionate members of the ROP now want to hang a Christian woman in Paki-land for they say, speaking ill of Momudhead. Never ends. Does it.

She might be spared by the court on appeal, but the fear is that the peace loving mob will be a threat.

Christian woman sentenced to death in Pakistan ‘for blasphemy’

A Christian woman has been sentenced to hang in Pakistan after being convicted of defaming the Prophet Mohammed.

By Rob Crilly in Islamabad and Aoun Sahi in Lahore 5:36PM GMT 09 Nov 2010

Asia Bibi, a 45-year-old mother-of-five, denies blasphemy and told investigators that she was being persecuted for her faith in a country where Christians face routine harassment and discrimination.

Christian groups and human rights campaigners condemned the verdict and called for the blasphemy laws to be repealed.

Her supporters say she will now appeal against the sentence handed down in a local court in the town of Sheikhupura, near Lahore, Pakistan.

Ashiq Masih, her husband, said he had not had the heart to break the news to two of their children.

“I haven’t told two of my younger daughters about the court’s decision,” he said. “They asked me many times about their mother but I can’t get the courage to tell them that the judge has sentenced their mother to capital punishment for a crime she never committed.” Mrs Bibi has been held in prison since June last year.

The court heard she had been working as a farmhand in fields with other women, when she was asked to fetch drinking water.

Some of the other women – all Muslims – refused to drink the water as it had been brought by a Christian and was therefore “unclean”, according to Mrs Bibi’s evidence, sparking a row.

read the rest here

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born in the usa, but this guy was never an american.

Here’s a guy born and raised as an American and now look.  What makes scummy dirt bags like this?

Sure hope our guys get this vile and worthless pile of poo and destroy the bastard. Slowly.

Our luck he’ll be captured and returned to the states where he’ll claim his rights have been violated and end up with Gloria Allred for the defense.

No Fatwa Needed To Kill Americans, Says Radical Yemen Cleric

Written by VOA (Voice of America)

Even though he is an American, a radical U.S.-born cleric says Muslims should not hesitate to kill Americans, arguing that no religious rulings are needed “to fight the devil.” Anwar al-Awlaki, wanted by both the United States and Yemen, where he is based, made the appeal in an Internet video released Monday.

In a wide-ranging 23-minute talk, the al-Qaida-linked cleric condemned Iran, Israel and the leaders of Arab nations.  He went further in regard to the people of the United States. 

The American-born Awlaki told his followers that they do not need to consult with anyone before killing Americans.  He said for Muslims it is a question of “us or them.”

Awlaki is wanted by both the U.S. and Yemen for his suspected role in terrorist attacks, including the attempted bombing of a U.S. airliner late last year.  He is also believed to have acted as an advisor to the suspect in a deadly shooting spree at a U.S. military base in Texas and the killing of a Frenchman in Yemen earlier this year. 

U.S. authorities believe he is an active member of the Yemen-based al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula.

The video message, parts of which were released last month, come days after the terrorist organization claimed responsibility for attempting to send bombs in air cargo to the United States.  The packages were intercepted by authorities tipped off by Saudi intelligence.  The terrorist group has also claimed responsibility for attacks that killed Yemeni civilians.

In the video, Awlaki also condemns Arab leaders as corrupt, including those in Yemen.

Political analyst Stephen Steinbeiser says many Yemenis, and others in the region, side with Americans against terrorists.  But the resident director of the American Institute for Yemeni Studies says the cleric may be trying to attract followers beyond his regular jihadist sympathizers.

“I think he is reaching for a broader audience and I think that when Yemenis begin to feel that someone like al-Awlaki is singling out corrupt leaders, then it becomes a much more appealing message and they many begin to listen to other types of things he is saying,” said Steinbeiser.

But such a move could strengthen the resolve of the Yemeni government in hunting him down.  The Sana’a-based Steinbeiser says many in Yemen believe the government knows where al-Awlaki is hiding or at least the general locale.  But he notes officials may be hindered by the fact the al-Awlaki family is very powerful in the clan- and tribe-dominated country. 

“There are potential repercussions politically, and potential violent repercussions if they go after al-Awlaki [as] the U.S. would like.  So the Yemeni government has to walk a bit of a fine line,” Steinbeiser said. “At the same time, I think they realize that he is an increasing threat and certainly with this latest message, it shows he is not afraid of the threats made against him, and he seems to want to escalate the situation.”

The Yemeni government has pledged to help the United States in tracking al-Awlaki down, and last week put him on trial in absentia for incitement and plotting to kill foreigners.

The United States is believed to have already put al-Awlaki on a special list of Americans who security forces are authorized to capture dead or alive.

VOA SOURCE

special list of Americans who security forces are authorized to capture dead or alive.

Hey ... while they’re at it, can we get Allred on that list as well?

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   Friday - November 05, 2010

Muslim hate preacher Abu Hamza allowed to keep British passport

Anything important happen today?
Oh, not much unless you consider another nail in England’s coffin important.
And that’s just how I see this.  Don’t we have people who work in the dark anymore? Jeesh. There’s so much work of that nature and it’s being left undone. The problem with that of course is, it piles up and gets outta hand.

I don’t know if it’s still true but ... he and his stinky family had been on Brit benefits. House, SUV, etc.

Muslim hate preacher Abu Hamza allowed to keep British passport

Hate preacher Abu Hamza has won his appeal against the Government’s attempts to strip him of his British passport, a special tribunal has ruled.

The radical cleric argued that such a move would render him “stateless” as he had already been stripped of his Egyptian citizenship.

Delivering its 12-page ruling, the Special Immigration Appeals Commission allowed his appeal.

In his ruling, Mr Justice Mitting said: “We are satisfied on balance of probabilities that if a deprivation order were to be made, the appellant (Hamza) would be made stateless.

“The conclusions which we have reached in the closed judgment supplement, but do not contradict, that conclusion.

“Accordingly, this appeal is allowed.”

Hamza, 52, was jailed for seven years in February 2006 for inciting murder and race hate.

He is in Belmarsh Prison as he challenges attempts to extradite him to the US on terror charges.
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That case was delayed by the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg in July, which called for further submissions over the length of his sentence and the conditions he would experience if extradited to ADX Florence, a so-called “supermax” prison in Fremont County, Colorado.

Attempts to take his passport away were launched in 2003 but delayed by other legal actions against him.

At a three-day hearing in London last month, Hamza’s lawyers argued he has already been stripped of his Egyptian citizenship so cannot have his British passport taken too, as that would render him “stateless”.

But the Home Office said there was no documentation to prove he was no longer an Egyptian national and though he was once denied an Egyptian passport, he was later allowed one.

The commission heard Hamza may have had his Egyptian nationality revoked but the country’s government would not confirm whether he had or not.

The cleric came to Britain on a student visa and acquired a British passport through marriage.

He was denied an Egyptian passport in 1982 because he had not undertaken military service, the panel heard, but a decree in 1988 allowed him his citizenship back.

But Egyptian law expert Sabah Al-Mukhtar, appearing as a witness for Hamza’s legal team, told the commission it was possible he had been stripped of his nationality later on for other reasons.

He said by refusing Hamza a passport the Egyptian government was giving a “de facto” denial of his nationality.

James Strachan, for the Home Office, said Mr Al-Mukhtar’s interpretation was a “fundamental disagreement” with their own expert’s evidence.

A Downing Street spokeswoman said Prime Minister David Cameron was “disappointed” with the decision but that it would not affect ongoing extradition proceedings.

source to scum suckin’ creep

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   Thursday - November 04, 2010

‘I WANTED TO BE A MARTY, THAT’S THE BEST WAY TO DIE’

So the judge says to the evil and evil smelling muzzie scumbag ....

I hope you will come to understand the evil that you have done and repent of it.

Poor misguided judge. A true product of the west and who can blame the man?  He’s sincere.  He just doesn’t understand that he is NOT addressing anything human.  Meanwhile, via video feed because the defendant does not recognize the jurisdiction of the Brit court, and so has refused to attend her trial, she smiles happily at him.  I haven’t a clue why a trial when she was caught red handed and then told anyone who would listen, that she wanted to kill the hated infidel. In this case a Labour Party MP who voted for the Iraq war.  As reported yesterday, she walked up to him and stabbed him a few times before being restrained and arrested.

Here’s the update.  She got life and will have to served at least 15 years. Her inspiration has been an American traitor turned islamic anti west preacher wanted by the USA.

The guy she tried kill is a member of the party out of power here, which means he leans to the left, even though he supported the war on Iraq. I wonder if he’ll eventually claim that islam is an rop. He might.

So here’s what we know as of today and there’s more as always at the link, as what I post here is edited.  Here’s our cast of dubious characters. 

Curse the judge, shout fanatics as the Muslim girl who knifed MP smiles as she gets life
By Michael Seamark

A judge was subjected to a tirade of abuse in his own courtroom yesterday as he jailed an Al Qaeda-inspired Muslim woman for attempting to assassinate an MP.
Islamist protesters harangued Mr Justice Cooke from the public gallery at the Old Bailey, shouting ‘Allahu akbar’ (‘God is great’), ‘British go to hell’ and ‘Curse the judge’.

The outbursts came as Roshonara Choudhry, 21, was sentenced to life imprisonment for stabbing former minister Stephen Timms. Choudhry smiled broadly as the judge told her: ‘You said you ruined the rest of your life. You said it was worth it. You said you wanted to be a martyr.’

Hundreds of videos inciting violence, including clips by the U.S.-born radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki who inspired Choudhry to attempt to assassinate the MP, were removed from YouTube yesterday.

Their removal followed a private speech in the United States by security minister Baroness Neville-Jones in which she called on the White House to ‘take down this hateful material’.

Mr Timms, 55, describing the moment he was stabbed in East London in May by the smiling student, said: ‘I shouted out, “What was that for?”’
‘That was the last thing that I expected to happen and there was absolutely no explanation to me. She didn’t say a word. It was a complete bolt out of the blue.’

‘I WANTED TO BE A MARTY, THAT’S THE BEST WAY TO DIE’
Choudhry was interviewed by detectives Simon Dobinson and Syed Hussain. In this extract from the transcript she tells them she dropped out in the third year of an English and communications degree at King’s College London.

Choudhry: I stabbed Stephen Timms.
Question: You stabbed Stephen Timms?
Choudhry: Yep. I’ve been learning more about Islam.

Question: Where have you been learning that?
Choudhry: Internet.
Question: What websites you been looking at?
Choudhry: I’ve been listening to lectures by Anwar al-Awlaki.
Question: Who’s he?
Choudhry: He’s an Islamic scholar. He lives in Yemen.

Question: Tell me your thoughts about what you’ve done.
Choudhry: I feel like I’ve ruined the rest of my life. I feel like it’s worth it because millions of Iraqis are suffering and I should do what I can to help them and not just be inactive and do nothing while they suffer.
Question: I just want to go over a little bit how your thought has gone from getting to religion to wanting some form of vengeance.
Choudhry: Because as Muslims we’re all brothers and sisters and we should all look out for each other and we shouldn’t sit back and do nothing while others suffer. We shouldn’t allow the people who oppress us to get away with it and to think that they can do whatever they want to us and we’re just gonna lie down and take it.
Question: Where did you learn that from?
Choudhry: From listening to his lectures.

FULL STORY AND TRANSCRIPT HERE

two muzzie supporters .. not shown here but in hard copy, the usual signs. islam will dominate the world. and I think they will damn well try. know the enemy folks.

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   Wednesday - November 03, 2010

al-Qaeda terrorists ‘threatened another Lockerbie’.

More of the same but getting a bit intense I think. No panic button but I sure am tired of these grizzly bearded sub human bastards.  OH, like you aren’t. But I almost feel like we’re on some kind of front line.

By now I’m certain all of you are aware and know about the latest foiled bomb plot. Explosives in printers and printer cartridges. Seems Yemen has become a hotspot for terrorist activity and training.  Yemen?  Would anyone miss it?  And Somalia? Would anyone miss it?  We might have to take a very much closer look at Pakistan as well.

My solution to both problems and no joke intended.  Doesn’t mean there won’t still be islamic terrorists. But damn fewer and an unexpected nuke attack on both places would surely reduce the problem by a hundred fold. Then in the aftermath we send in clean up units of a newly formed death head div. to mop up and rid the world of anything remaining.  Anything short of that will not work. It can’t because their numbers are growing. They have a higher birth rate, think insects. Same thing.  These are very evil life forms, many of whom really do these things only because they enjoy the exercise, and now have a religion to use as an excuse.  Join them to the many who are true believers, all of em spawning, and you see the problem.

I do not subscribe to the argument that we can not use methods that put us in their moral grouping. Why not? If we can rid the world of the scum, who’ll question the methods later?  And those that do can be sent off to places like Afghanistan (if there’s much left) to see how they’d like living in another century.

Here’s my time honored solution.

Suspect linked to al-Qaeda plane bomb plotters arrested in Britain

A member of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula was arrested in Britain for allegedly plotting an attack in this country, the Home Secretary Theresa May has said.

By Tom Whitehead and Caroline Gammell

The suspect was an “associate” of the terrorist group, which was linked to last week’s cargo plane bomb plot in which ink printer cartridges were loaded with enough dangerous explosive to blow up aircraft.

In her first speech on security, Mrs May warned such threats will continue against the country and that the police and security services were working to disrupt al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) operatives in this country.

Mrs May also warned that the threat of AQAP and its capability in Yemen was increasing.

Mrs May said: “An AQAP associate was arrested here earlier this year.

“He is alleged to have been planning a terrorist attack in this country. Threats such as these are likely to continue.”

During her speech, the Home Secretary also warned that Somalia will become a terror hotbed if “left to its own devices” plotting attacks on the UK.

She said: “Where necessary we will enhance our protective security measures; we will invest in conflict prevention and stopping terrorist plots overseas; we will refocus the strategy for preventing radicalisation in the UK; and we will strike a better balance between our liberties and our security.

“There is much good work under way to tackle the terrorist threat.

more here. read it and know your enemy

Strike a better balance, the lady says. Right. Here’s a better balance. It’s been tested and found to work when applied.

I tend to take the threat to us very seriously. And personally.

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anyone have numbers of muzzie vote yesterday? meanwhile, back in the olde country ….

I came across this at American Thinker.  Posting only part so see the link for more.

Some folks claim that some blog sites and some msm outlets stir fear where there should be none.  In other words, they are just exaggerating a perceived threat. When I see things like that, I can’t explain or understand how those who are not muslim, can not see the threat. What planet are they on?

H/T American Thinker
all of it is here

London’s Islamic Republic
Avi Davis

‘Eurabia’ has become a popularly employed neologism in recent years to describe the slow melding of cultures in Europe.  Those fearful of an eventual eclipse of European civilization by a fast growing Muslim population have emphasized Europe’s ever widening acceptance of Muslim practices and beliefs—even when they directly conflict with notions of Western morality and accepted behavior.

But as events in London last week demonstrate, political developments on the continent may be fast outstripping the pace of cultural transformation.  The startling election of the Islamist Lutfur Rhaman as the first executive mayor of the London Borough of Tower Hamlets could offer us a harrowing glimpse into Europe’s Eurabian future. 

Mr. Rahman belongs to the Islamic Forum of Europe, an organization which has expressed contempt for democracy and support for jihad and the imposition of sharia law on British society.  In March, the Channel 4 program Dispatches, undertaking an investigate report of the organization, found that Islamist influences were dominant in the organization.  Azad Ali, the IFE’s community affairs coordinator in London, was quoted declaring: “Democracy...if it means at the expense of not implementing the sharia, of course no one agrees with that.” A 2009 recruitment manual for the group states its program in unequivocal language:

Our goal is not simply to invite people and give da’wah [call to the faith]. Our goal is to create the True Believer, to then mobilise those believers into an organised force for change who will carry out da’wah, hisbah [enforcement of Islamic law] and jihad [struggle]. This will lead to social change and iqamatud-Deen [an Islamic social, economic and political order].

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   Wednesday - October 13, 2010

proud to be an American traitor and you have seen nothing yet. Latest threat from ROP

Not sure if BMEWS readers have seen this yet. In the morning paper today.  Nothing surprising but ... just another reminder that we need to,
Know Our Enemy ...

Any reason we can’t just go to nukes? Maybe just Yemen to start. Oh right. Somalia too. I guess we must have the permission of the euros and the aclu and we know that’s not gonna happen. 
Why do authorities and the media continue to claim that some of these sub-humans, are Americans.  They are NOT Americans.  I don’t care if they’re born in the USA, they are NOT Americans. 

I have heard on radio news that soon, one of the Gitmo sub species will have a civilian trial in a court. Not military.  Why oh why can’t we simply put em on a plane, chained , and then simply drop them out over the sea.  Think of the money it would save.  Then deny we did anything like that and simply say the plane went down in The Bermuda Triangle and we’re looking.  When aclu or human right jerks come calling or insist on an investigation say fine. Oh by the way, do you have any children that might like an airplane ride?  Hey, this is a different kind of war that we have ever fought. A different sort of enemy.  If we fight by using the Marques of Queensbury Rules, we lose. Big Time ! 

Al-Qaeda magazine published ‘tips on how to kill Americans’

A magazine run by the Yemeni group al-Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula has published a list of tips on how to kill Americans.

“A random hit at a crowded restaurant in Washington, DC at lunch ... might end up knocking out a few government employees,” one article reads, according to the private SITE Intelligence Group, which studies, tracks and analyses the global jihadist network and terrorism financing.

The edition also includes “The Ultimate Mowing Machine,” which describes how to use a pickup truck “as a mowing machine, not to mow grass, but mow down the enemies of Allah.” It says “to achieve maximum carnage, you need to pick up as much speed as you can while still retaining good control . . . to strike as many people as possible in your first run.”

The magazine includes two articles by renegade US cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who is on a US government kill-or-capture list for his alleged roles in the attempted Christmas Day airliner bombing, and inspiring the Fort Hood shooting of 13 troops. Army Major Nidal Hassan has been charged in the killings.

There’s also an article by the so-called American al-Qaeda, Adam Gadahn.

Another American, Samir Khan, describes how he went from online jihadist in North Carolina to full-time terrorist in Yemen. The article is entitled, “I Am Proud to be a Traitor to America.”

Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula has taken root in Yemen’s remote and mountainous Shabwa province, far from the reach of the country’s weak central government.

The group rose toward the top of the security agenda of the United States and other world powers after it was linked to the failed Christmas Day attempt to down a Detroit-bound US airliner. The would-be bomber had explosives sewn into his underwear.

The magazine’s content reveals the group’s evolving strategy of rejecting easier-to-stop spectacular attacks in favour of one-man operations, using everyday objects.

That shows the organisation is “increasingly agile, lethal and opportunistic,” according to Yemeni scholar Christopher Boucek from the Carnegie Endowment.

The first edition included an article called “Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom.”

In the introduction to the latest magazine, the editors boast of “recent US assessments” that declared al-Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula “one of the most dangerous branches of al-Qaeda.” It concludes, “You haven’t seen anything yet.”

source

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   Sunday - October 10, 2010

Gee, I wonder why this creep is smiling.  He just got laid?  Yes. He screwed the Brits!

Binyam Mohamed can stay in Britain - but

he wants it kept secret: Former detainee argues reporting story amounts to ‘torture’

By Jason Lewis

Former Guantanamo Bay detainee Binyam Mohamed last night lost a legal bid to prevent The Mail on Sunday from revealing that he has been granted permanent residency in Britain.

The controversial move by the former UK asylum seeker came despite his continued involvement in a series of high-profile legal battles with the Government, claiming that Labour Ministers, MI5 and MI6 were complicit in his illegal detention and alleged torture.

Last night lawyers acting for Ethiopian-born Mr Mohamed,
32, failed to win a High Court injunction preventing the public from knowing that he had been granted indefinite leave to remain in the UK.

The extraordinary case was brought under Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which covers torture.

Mr Mohamed’s lawyers claimed that publicising his right to remain in Britain would amount to inhumane and degrading treatment.

The case comes amid increasing disquiet about the growing practice of allowing asylum seekers to remain anonymous when they argue that they should be allowed to make the UK their permanent home.

If I appear to walk around perpetually angry, blame it on the news I’m exposed to.
Even if I didn’t spend the day reading the papers, the headlines are pretty hard to ignore. And this story really does have me seeing red.  It seems so automatic. If a muzzie says he’s been tortured by our side, well then. Must be so.

A few months ago (but never out of the news altogether) there was a story about this pile of foreign filth.  I think Drew referred to him as BinMan. Or someone did.
Anyway, the bastard was using a false passport but that fact was mentioned once or 2wice and then not brought up again.  He claims (and is suing) the Brit govt. who has just given the asswipe asylum btw, because he claims, the evil Americans tortured him at Gitmo and the Brits knew about it and did nothing.
Lets be clear on something.  He was not even a Brit resident and he was not a citizen. But he says the questions Americans asked him were supplied by the Brits.

He had been arrested in Pakistan in 2002 after attempting to board a flight to Britain using a forged passport and claims he was then transferred between several so-called ‘ghost prisons’ where he was interrogated and tortured.

Well, here’s an outrage for ya.  He was secretly granted asylum here.
Please guys, don’t be too hard on the Brits for that. I suspect it’s something in the water or the toothpaste that only officials who make these decisions are subject to. Something happens to self defense and sovereignty and common sense. Whatever it is, they are bonkers. Whatever it is, this BinMan bastard got lawyers and tried to get a court order against the newspapers reporting the fact that he now has asylum here.
The very idiot newspapers that championed his cause btw. Oh and that isn’t all.  He claims, or his taxpayer charged lawyers claim, that publishing the news of his asylum is ,,,,, TORTURE.  Well, the nigger lost his case. This time.  Lets be clear yet again. I don’t hate his color. I hate what he became. I hate the scum he trained with.  I just hope this country doesn’t pay a horrid price for being kind to this walking pile of poo.

Here’s a Sunday Mail comment on that.

Freedom has to work both ways, Mr Mohamed

Mail on Sunday Comment

The use of super injunctions to keep the public from knowing about matters that might be regarded as controversial is increasing at an alarming rate.
Almost every week some celebrity takes out such an injunction to prevent publication of facts that might cause him shame, damage his reputation or reduce his earning power.

That is quite bad enough. But even more disturbing is the use of such instruments to prevent the media from reporting the workings of Parliament or the courts.

Galling: Binyam Mohamed owes his release to the diligent actions of an independent Press, not least this newspaper.

Recently, a large multi-national company even tried to stop The Guardian newspaper reporting a parliamentary question. Now Binyam Mohamed has sought to prevent The Mail on Sunday from reporting that he has been given leave to remain in this country.

This is particularly galling because he owes his release to the diligent actions of an independent Press, not least this newspaper.
He was perfectly happy for us to lay bare the details of the legal battle that secured his liberty – and the activities of Britain’s security services.

The principle that helped to free Binyam Mohamed in the first place – that the actions of the state and the courts in a free society must be open to reasonable scrutiny – applies just as much to him and his immigration status as it does to the British Government and its decisions.

THE ENTIRE ARTICLE IS HERE, MAIL on SUNDAY

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   Friday - October 08, 2010

Israeli motorist runs down a Palestinian boy in East Jerusalem. Not really he didn’t.

This almost reads as though the driver went looking for muzzie sub-humans to run down.

So then, you’re driving someplace and confronted by masked and stone throwing gangster thugs. What should you do?  What Should you do?

Stop and ask directions?

Stop and hold hands and use reason?

Stop and convert to islam?

Stop and ask them why they are throwing stones?

Stop and offer your help throwing stones at yourself?

Jeesh ....  Frankly I’m sorry the future suicide bomber punk got lucky and only had scrapes.  Crippled would have been better. Oh well. Maybe next time and you know there will be a next time. 

There’s a load of photos at the link.

Pictured: The moment an Israeli motorist runs down a Palestinian boy in East Jerusalem

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 5:19 PM on 8th October 2010

Dramatic images have emerged of the moment an Israeli motorist drove straight into a young Palestinian boy in East Jerusalem today.

The child had been part of a group throwing stones at Israeli cars following news the country’s military had killed two Hamas militants in the West Bank city of Hebron earlier on Friday.

Amazingly the boy only sustained ‘light injuries’ after being thrown into the air by the vehicle and twisting over its roof.

The majority of the boys, with their t-shirts wrapped round their heads to disguise their identity, were lined up on either side of the road near a zebra crossing ready to attack the vehicle.

Two members of the group were positioned in the centre of the road - leading to the collision, with the motorist apparently driving straight into one of the boys.

more photos here

Look at the linked photos. Didn’t look much like the motorist had anywhere to go anyway. Besides, the little asswipe and his friend were standing right in it’s path.  Probably thought the driver would stop. Well, SURPRISE!  Gotcha, ya little bastard.

Theo’s has the video up. Go there and watch it.

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   Thursday - October 07, 2010

the flag of islam will one day fly over the white house. just try it. go ahead. make our day.

I don’t get to see any American TV over here.  I probably could I suppose. But I don’t catch a lot of Brit TV either. Cept news stuff on the puter. Just not enough hours in the day.
Anyway, I caught this at one of my mainstay news sites, Europe News.
To be honest, I dislike that lefty know it all bitch Christiane Amanpour so much that I’d have passed on the program mentioned anyway.  And I am familiar as most who live here are, of Choudray. 

Media Ignore Threat of ‘Flag of Islam’ Flying over White House

Business Media Institute 06 October 2010
By Dan Gainor

Imagine the furor if a televangelist went on a major TV network and told viewers Christianity would conquer the world and that the flag of Christianity would fly over the White House.

Network reporters, Hollywood celebrities and the pundit class would have seized the moment as an example of the evils of America’s supposed Christian theocracy. The story would have been tied to the dangers of evangelical religion and likely even to the Tea Parties. Across the oceans, radical Islamists would do as they did during the Koran burning episode or after the Danish cartoons were published. They would riot. Cars, businesses and maybe even embassies would burn. People would die.

Thankfully, that didn’t happen. What did happen is far scarier.

ABC News held a townhall meeting, bringing on experts from left and right to ask the question: “Should Americans fear Islam?”

Thanks to ABC, we know the answer. Americans absolutely should. One of the network’s “experts” was Muslim cleric Anjem Choudary, who Britain’s Sunday Times called “the leader of the now-outlawed extremist group Islam4UK.” His comments on “This Week” bore out everything conservatives criticize about radical Islam. “We do believe as Muslims the East and the West will be governed by the Sharia,” Choudray said. “Indeed we believe that one day the flag of Islam will fly over the White House.”

According to Choudary, “Islam has a solution for all of the problems that mankind faces.”

You don’t need to read between the lines to know what he was talking about. That is, if you could find those lines anywhere. Our allegedly unbiased media have done almost nothing with the story. No network used the clip except ABC and that was just in its original program. Only two major newspapers mentioned it, and none of the top papers – New York Times, Washington Post, etc.

Even ABC, which aired the program, tried to spin things against conservatives. Host and pro-Islamist Christiane Amanpour told one guest that “a series of politicians have used the Islamic center, have used sort of Islamophobia and scare tactics in their campaigns.” The dictionary calls a phobia “a persistent, irrational fear.” There’s nothing irrational about fearing radical Islam. It’s stupid not to do so.

Instead, the only things the media fear these days are the continued decline of their profession, and the rise of the Tea Parties. You can find a story bashing Tea Party folks for not recycling. That kind of petty criticism is to be expected. The media hate them (...)

europe news

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