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Subject: Firearms Attitudes and Lying With the TruthRoaming around the internet, I found an old Life Magazine article titled: “Drawing a Bead on Safety”, that was published in 1956.
There are several things worth noting in it, both the story of the original article and the modern commentary by Ben Cosgrove, editor of Life.com. Many of you have heard me say that it is possible to blatantly lie, while each word you speak is the absolute truth. Mr. Cosgrove’s commentary is an excellent illustration of this.
Below are my comments and Mr. Cosgrove’s original text. Except for U.S. Census figures, I am only using the facts and figures in Mr. Cosgrove’s article. With a little reflection, I’m sure all of you can critique Mr. Cosgrove even more thoroughly than I have.
Mr. Cosgrove begins with a disclaimer that images of “guns and children in a classroom might be distressing to some readers....” Distressing to who? People whose automatic reaction to firearms is unreasoning fear? The entire article is about teaching the children about the basics of safety. Then again, to some people, the idea of teaching children not to be afraid of firearms is shocking. Isn’t there enough fear in the world without encouraging fear by willful ignorance?
[NOTE: LIFE.com is aware that encountering images of guns and children in a classroom might be distressing to some readers — even if those images were made decades ago and depict an adult instructing schoolkids in a rural community in the proper and safe use of firearms. Our intention is not to incite, or inflame, but to add context and perhaps even some nuance to the current national dialog around guns and gun violence in the United States.]
Nice to know that Mr. Cosgrove doesn’t want to incite or inflame anyone, who is he afraid of? How is passing on the knowledge that teaching children is a viable method of reducing injury and death inflammatory?
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The email goes on to point out how just about every sentence in the photo essay is designed to bend the truth, and play your emotions. It’s a good fisking, but if you follow the link forewarned, you too can see the subtle bias at play and tear it to shreds. I put this email stub up here to remind you to keep your guard up all the time; this kind of soft intolerance is around us constantly. I read an essay yesterday showing how women’s magazines are chock full of it too; that they preach a dual message that 1) women shouldn’t own guns or defend themselves and 2) Republicans and Conservatives are old white guys who are wrong about everything and very uncool and unpopular, so you don’t want to be like them. It’s true! Every one of those magazines has a strong Left bias.
Keep your guard up, and fight the meme whenever you find it. Speak up!
I can’t take much more of this shit, although I do appreciate the link and the analysis.
I was looking at documents made by the Chicago Police about homicides in their city. Chilling stuff ... For more than 20 years the statistical breakdowns hardly change: Blacks do 75% of the killing, Hispanics 20%, Whites 5%. Blacks are 75% of the victims, Hispanics 20%, Whites and Others 5%. Year after year after year. 75% of the killings are gang related; nearly 3/4 of the victims has a prior arrest record. Oh, and rifles are almost never used. Almost never. Google up Chicago Police homicide statistics; there are loads of links to official reports. The numbers change a little from city to city, but the FBI’s national overall numbers are pretty much exactly the same, and for exactly the same reasons. Young black and brown males 16-35 with criminal records killing other black and brown males 16-35 with criminal records, most often on the weekends in warmer weather, out in public, from after dinner time until the late at night. The 2011 Chicago Police report spells this out in exacting detail. Another large part of the homicides and woundings are bystanders hit with stray bullets during those same time periods.
Anyway, yes, it’s blacks and browns ... but mostly it’s gangs. Stop the gangs and you’ve cut the homicide rate in half. Firearms are pretty much banned in Chicago. Handguns are illegal IIRC. And yet the cops there recover thousands and thousands of guns every year.
So how do they get the guns? Can the pipeline be plugged? Is it really the Tiahrt Ammendment causing the problem, or is that just BS?
On 1/25/13 IL Senator Quigley “submitted” his TRACE Act bill yet again ... although in truth he hasn’t done beans, because he submitted a bill in name only: it has no text yet. He just “got a number”, with the contents to follow. The TRACE act usually calls for the NICS info to be saved for a month, but this time around he says it’s going to call for it to be saved 180 days. And more text in this year’s version will dismantle the Tiarht Ammendment. I’m really not ho TRACE is going to keep criminals from getting guns, though NRA and FOP claim Tiahrt protects my privacy, and that the data is already specifically available to law enforcement people working on actual cases. It just isn’t available to snoopy cops or reporters, or to people with an axe to grind. Look it up and form you own opinion.
But maybe ... maybe ... if NICS results sat around longer (after 24 hrs right now they’re erased), and each time a new query was sent it looked to see if another query had been made for that person within ,,, a week, two weeks, a month, 3 months, 6 months? would that actually spot the straw purchasers?
Is that the idea? See me trying hard to understand the Liberal viewpoint? I’m honestly looking for solutions that could work, and we could be so much better off if the lower income urban environments were more peaceful. But at what cost to the rest of us? I completely disagree with the “if only one child can be saved” meme; it’s crap. “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few” applies just as much or more so.
The numbers can not be ignored. Nearly three quarters of the violent death in our country comes from criminals killing other criminals, and about a quarter of what’s left comes from criminals killing their crime victims. And organized urban crime is THE massive piece of the pie: gangs.
These gangs are chock full of criminals and underage youths. Neither group can legally buy a firearm. The gangs are armed to the teeth. Somebody is breaking the law selling them guns. How do we stop this?
- “Stay out of gangs” education ... been going on for decades, doesn’t do jack.
- “job opportunities” ... really? You can live as well or better on the welfare system legally as you can from having a job that pays $15-18.hr (something like that; it’s certainly far more than minimum wage). And if you game the system ... multiple names, claiming kids that don’t exist, etc (nobody ever checks) then you can live a solid middle class life. So why work? Besides, you’d need a journeyman’s skill level or a corporate grade college degree to get a job that starts at that rate of pay or better, and then there’s that whole bothersome 40-70 hours a week you’d have to be out there working. So it would take at least 3-4 years of steady effort to work your way up to where you’re currently living for free. Any takers?
- “more gun control laws, stiffer penalties” ... yeah, that works. NOT. Ghetto cops know everybody’s packing heat, and the justice system there is buried under an avalanche. So this is chickenshit, akin to a jaywalking ticket.
- “move out of the hood, and leave the hood behind you” ... ingrained behavior is hard to abandon: we have a cliche about exactly this situation.
- “Take away their guns” ... which is what the cops do every time they get arrested. In the revolving door justice system, they’re back on the street in a couple hours, and armed again an hour or so after that.
- “Stop guns from getting in” ... ah, now we’re talking. Tell me how.
Oh, and what happens if you do take away all their guns, and the gangs go right on killing each other, only using knives and bats and cars as weapons, which they already also do right now? That might stop some bystanders from getting killed, but then again, it might not. Put crash bars or a plow blade on an Escalade and you can run down a whole sidewalk full of people while trying to get to that gang banger you’re targeting. Then you can just drive away to the car wash.
No, the way to stop it is to stop the gangs from even existing. But that takes us back to that whole failed War On Drugs thing, theft by order and the ease of fencing stolen stuff (Ebay!!!), pimpin the hos, protection rackets, and other urban crime.
Somebody, please, give me a plan that will keep guns from the gangs, but not trample my rights with even so much as a footprint, because I’ve already been trampled too much. And frankly, at this point I’m not really sure if I give a damn about those locked into a hopeless urban culture. They’ve had generations to escape and haven’t ... and hundreds of billions in support and opportunity, all to nearly no avail ... so why don’t the rest of us just put up a fence and say to heck with them?
Posted by Drew458
on 02/02/2013 at 11:11 AM
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