Sunday - November 21, 2010

TAKE YOUR INEGRATION AND SHOVE IT!

Had to take off Sat and booting very late today. Ran across this interesting piece at Europe News, who took it from The Gates of Vienna blog.

I won’t post much of it here cos it’s longish, the person interviewed isn’t very articulate, but I thought it would be interesting for our readers to see this mindset. Not that you weren’t aware for a very long time.  But you know how it is.  When those of us on the right talk about this subject in negative ways, we’re racists, or xenophobic or maybe Fascists.  And those would be the nice things.
Good to know from the horses mouth (or is that from the other end?) that we’ve been right all along.
But then ... you already knew that as well.

Here, take a look and be sure to check the link.

Who really wants integration?

Gates of Vienna

When discussing immigration in Western Europe these days, the big buzzword is “integration”. German Chancellor Angela Merkel recently convened an integration summit to discuss strategies to help Germany’s large Turkish minority to accommodate themselves to German society — and, coincidentally, to steal some of the thunder from Thilo Sarrazin, whose anti-immigration book has proved a huge popular success.

But what does “integration” mean for practical purposes? And the big question, which largely goes unasked: Is it really possible to integrate Europe’s huge Muslim population in any meaningful way?

An interview transcript from an October 29 program on Denmark Radio should give pause to anyone who still thinks “integration” is doable. The young woman interviewed for the program was born in Denmark, but she makes it quite clear that she has never integrated into Danish society, nor does she ever intend to do so.

Henrik Ræder Clausen sent the tip for this interview, and he included this comment:

We are discussing ghettos in the Danish media (mostly about knocking down high rise apartment blocks, unfortunately), and here is an interesting interview with a resident who has a whole new take on the issue. She feels safe because it’s an area for Arabs.

Many thanks to Anne-Kit of Perth, Australia, for translating this post from the Danish blog Uriasposten:

“New Dane” on National Radio: “You can’t force me to live with you, our ways of thinking are different”

This week Denmark’s State Radio is featuring “Ghetto” as a headline, Tuesday’s broadcast is worth a listen if you still think ghettos are about socio-economic issues. The interviewee was an 18-year-old girl from Gellerup [a culturally enriched suburb of Århus], born in Denmark but mentally “resident” in Lebanon, something which she didn’t see as a problem — indeed segregation seemed to be a goal in itself.

26/10/10 — “Apropos”, P1 — Ghetto and identity (interview with Iman Rabeh from Gellerupparken).

Mikkel Krause, P1: My guest is Iman Rabeh, who is 18 and has lived in Gellerupparken [an immigrant housing estate] her whole life. Tell me what you think it’s been like living in Gellerupparken.

Iman Rabeh, Gellerup: Well, Gellerupparken, it’s been my life, it’s been — all my friends, because everywhere in Gellerupparken there are both good memories and bad memories, but, you know, I can’t leave Gellerup.

Mikkel Krause: But what are the values in what we now call a ghetto, that are important to you?

Iman Rabeh: Well, the value is that community … that we all understand the same language, which we all speak, that we stick together, you know, my neighbor — all my neighbours are Arabs, and if they’re not Arabs then they are Lebanese, and if they’re not Lebanese then they are — we have that love for one another that you’re an Arab, I’m an Arab, we can talk with each other, we can discuss everything, we come from the other countries…

Mikkel Krause: But what does it mean to you, that you come from Gellerupparken specifically, you know, that you’re Iman from the ghetto rather than Iman from Vejlby or wherever else you might come from?

Iman Rabeh: Oh, it means everything! Because if I moved to a Danish area then it wouldn’t mean that much to me because one thing is that I know the language, but you know, Danes as such, they are not like us, they — in everything we have different customs, we have different — you know, we are different and have different ways of thinking.

GATES OF VIENNA

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