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Rumor To News: Two Or Three Years

Today This Is News:

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Afghan Taliban with modern US-made Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, 2012



Yet you’ve known about it for years. Pretty much. But it’s still a bit confusing.

The same missiles Hillary sent to arm the Libyan rebels. Probably not, but maybe some of those same 20,000/800/480 MANPADs that evaporated from Ghaddafi’s warehouses. And later turned up in Syria and elsewhere. A news story nearly dead on arrival. Don’t want to hear it, doesn’t fit the agenda, never happened, those were only vehicle mounted SA-24s and Russia says it never shipped them shoulder stocks, nothing to see here, bye bye.

Two years after the fact, it makes the newspapers. Because Qatar.

The Obama administration isn’t only giving the Taliban back its commanders — it’s giving them weapons.

Miliary records and sources reveal that on July 25, 2012, Taliban fighters in Kunar province successfully targeted a US Army CH-47 helicopter with a new generation Stinger missile.

They thought they had a surefire kill. But instead of bursting into flames, the Chinook just disappeared into the darkness as the American pilot recovered control of the aircraft and brought it to the ground in a hard landing.

The assault team jumped out the open doors and ran clear in case it exploded. Less than 30 seconds later, the Taliban gunner and his comrade erupted into flames as an American gunship overhead locked onto their position and opened fire.

The next day, an explosive ordnance disposal team arrived to pick through the wreckage and found unexploded pieces of a missile casing that could only belong to a Stinger missile.

Lodged in the right nacelle, they found one fragment that contained an entire serial number.

The investigation took time. Arms were twisted, noses put out of joint. But when the results came back, they were stunning: The Stinger tracked back to a lot that had been signed out by the CIA recently, not during the anti-Soviet ­jihad.

They believe the Qataris delivered between 50 and 60 of those same Stingers to the Taliban in early 2012, and an additional 200 SA-24 Igla-S surface-to-air missiles.

Qatar now is expected to hold five Taliban commanders released from Guantanamo for a year before allowing them to go to Afghanistan.

But if we can’t trust the Qataris not to give our weapons to the Taliban, how can we trust them with this?


Yet ... somewhere down the memory hole ...

[9/27/2011] The White House announced today it planned to expand a program to secure and destroy Libya’s huge stockpile of dangerous surface-to-air missiles, following an ABC News report that large numbers of them continue to be stolen from unguarded military warehouses. ...
“Once these missiles walk away from these facilities, they’re very difficult to get back, as the CIA realized in Afghanistan,” said Bouckaert.

When the Afghan mujahideen were fighting the Soviets more than two decades ago, the CIA supplied the Afghans with 1,000 Stinger surface-to-air missiles, which had a devastating effect on Soviet military aircraft. After the Soviets had retreated, however, the CIA spent millions of dollars trying to buy back the remaining missiles from the Afghan fighters.

Hey, has anyone ever seen a progress report from this initiative? Just wondering ...

also ...

[9/07/2011] A potent stash of Russian-made surface-to-air missiles is missing from a huge Tripoli weapons warehouse amid reports of weapons looting across war-torn Libya.

They are Grinch SA-24 shoulder-launched missiles, also known as Igla-S missiles, the equivalent of U.S.-made Stinger missiles.

Riight. But these were the commie bottle rockets, not the ever lovin’ Red White and Blue version. So maybe that doesn’t matter here.

Fine. In which case ...

[Breitbart, 8/13/2103] In August 12, 2013 Joe DiGenova, attorney for one of the Benghazi whistleblowers, told Washington D.C.’s WMAL that one of the reasons people have remained tight-lipped about Benghazi is because 400 U.S. missiles were “diverted to Libya” and ended up being stolen and falling into “the hands of some very ugly people.”

DiGenova represents Benghazi whistleblower Mark Thompson. He told WMAL that he “does not know whether [the missiles] were at the annex, but it is clear the annex was somehow involved in the distribution of those missiles.”

Although many of us online had made the missile connection well before this article, which came out 11 months after Benghazi. Heck, even Rand Paul had figured that one out by February 2013. The rest of us just nodded our heads and thought “yup, Fast & Furious, the International Version”.

llowing then-Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta’s February 7 testimony on Capitol Hill about the Benghazi attacks, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) suggested that one of the causes behind the terrorist attack “may have been that there was a gun running operation going on in Benghazi, leaving Libya and going to Turkey and [distributing] arms to the [Syrian] rebels.”

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Good boy Libyan rebel with Soviet SA-24 MANPAD. Looks similar, but not exactly like our Stinger MANPAD

So if the Tali’s new [as of 2012] Stingers are not from Mohmar’s Wonderful Weapons Warehouse, then from whence?  From the CIA, via Hillary Clinton. It’s all a bit confusing, but it seems that Gadhaffi’s warehouses had lots of old model Soviet SA-7s, plenty of new model SA-24s (although nobody really knows if they were only the truck mounted model or not) and possibly, perhaps, maybe, some Stingers. From 1980s Afghanistan maybe? Who knows. But when it was time to arm up the rebels, in that emergency little war we just had to get involved in, somehow the USA had to SEND the rebels new missiles, and they went there via the little flyspeck nation of Qattar. And sticky fingers managed to misplace a couple of pallets full. Which shortly ended up in Afghanistan, being used against our helicopter. Two months before Benghazi. Beats me why we couldn’t have just rowed a boat full to shore and handed them over directly, instead of going through how many hands and how many countries on a path that started in Qattar, 2100 miles away.

But now it’s a Big Deal, because now we’re supposed to trust Qattar to keep those 5 newly released AQ terrorists under control. Sure they will.


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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 06/09/2014 at 04:44 PM   
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