Wednesday - October 01, 2014

is this just poilitics as usual, with an eye on the may elections?

ECHR = European Court of Human Rights, which member states are the collective slaves of.

Tories = Conservatives

With elections coming in May, and quite a fight by the looks of things altho May is still a long way off, promises are being made left and right by all concerned.
Isn’t that always the way of it?
The ECHR has been a worthless miserable canker in the body politic for how F****** long now?
And suddenly the conservative party says they will try and block it. Why not last year?  Why not the year before that?

I know the USA has problems in what is laughingly referred to as the ‘justice’ as in hahahaha system. But trust me my fellow Americans.
You ain’t seen nothin’ like what the Brits have had forced upon them.  And it isn’t like ppl have been quiet about it.  But now ... with UKIP breathing down the Tory throat and the Tory worry that UKIP will take enuff votes away from the Tories, that the worst possible scenario will take place next May.
A victory by the left wing Labour Party, who on this date have less than a 35% approval rating.  I’m not even a citizen and that thought scares me. And my Brit wife is scared beyond the words to describe it. 

So now ... and so far as I can judge, this only refers to the military. Which at least is a start.  The hope here is that the UK will be able somehow to opt out of the ECHR.  Better yet they should get the hell out of the EU. UKIP would bring that about if they could win in May. But it’s very doubtful they can without a coalition govt.  And the only party I can see that they could align themselves with, would be the Tories.  Who say they won’t do it and if I recall, about a year ago the head of UKIP said he had no interest in aligning with the Tories. So where does that leave everyone pray tell?

LABOUR

Oh good grief Charlie Brown please. Not Them!

Tories move to block £85m ‘spurious’ ECHR MoD lawsuits

The Defence Secretary has said a future Conservative government would move to block human rights lawsuits against the Ministry of Defence.

Michael Fallon suggested the effect of ECHR on British law could be “restrained” if the Tories won the next election.

Mr Fallon told a Total Politics fringe event at the Conservative conference that he was “appalled” by the way human rights law is being used against the Armed Forces, and suggests the effect of ECHR on British law could be “restrained” under a future Tory government

He revealed that the Ministry of Defence had spent £85m on lawsuits brought against the Armed Forces under the European Convention on Human Rights.

Speaking at a fringe event at the Conservative Party conference, Mr Fallon said he was “appalled” at the way human rights law was being used against the British military, with the result that millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money were being spent on fighting “fairly spurious cases” rather than on kit and personnel.

Human rights law is “not just being used, it is being abused”, the defence secretary said.

The complaint from Mr Fallon means he joins the ranks of senior Tory figures calling for a diminished British membership of the European Convention on Human Rights.

“We already have military law, we already have international humanitarian law. We certainly do not need European law in this area hamstringing the efforts of our armed forces in very dangerous situations – the efforts they’re making to keep people safe, to detain suspected terrorists and so on,” Fallon said.

“What I’m appalled about is that the ministry has already spent some £85m of taxpayers’ money, not on the Armed Forces or on new kit or equipment for the Armed Forces, but on London law firms who are bringing forward these fairly spurious cases.

“That seems to me wholly wrong and I have agreed now with the Lord Chancellor that his plans to restrict the application of the European Convention on Human Rights will apply to the military side as well. Otherwise we’ll end up with every platoon taking a legal adviser out on patrol and that is simply unacceptable,” he said.

The Armed Forces were already aware of the restraints, and what they were allowed to do, Mr Fallon said, adding that the last thing they needed was more European law “enveloping the way they work”.

When pressed on how such a use of the ECHR against the MoD’s operations would be redressed, Mr Fallon said:

“You’re going to hear, I hope, from the Lord Chancellor what plans he has in the manifesto for the next government to restrain the effect of the Convention on our domestic law, and that in my view – and he agrees – should include its growing application to military operations.”

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I’ll trust LyndonB to correct me if I have it all wrong.

The May election as I see it now, could be a turning point.  There’s almost always hope at least. That does not read like I’m very positive. Does it?

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