Monday - October 05, 2015

hungary in the crosshairs Pt. 1

It might just be me and the pc and software or…? 

Don’t know about others but since the Daily Mail changed things, it takes forever for their pages to load. And … I now get the addition of locked screens on some stories.
This one especially.

So anyway …. I wanted to post about Hungary, who have a 110 mile razor wire fence and now are closing the border with Croatia, and are much in the news. 

This is my third attempt to post this. This time I might make it. In spite of the DM or my computer.  I think it’s an important story, and Hungary is being ravaged by the media.  And not just the left.  The surprise would be if the left had nothing to say.
They are being raked over the coals because they are worried, as well they should,
about the future and the culture of their homeland.

I wouldn’t normally copy this much of a story, but I really think it’s worth it.

Read on.

Racist or just brutal realism? Hungary’s been condemned for building a new Iron Curtain to keep out migrants.

But its PM says he’s done it to avoid multicultural Britain’s mistakes… and his popularity is soaring
· 110-mile-long fence is brainchild of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban
· The 4m-high barrier spans entire length of the country’s border with Serbia
· Waiting on other side of the barricade are squads of Hungarian riot police
· 82 per cent of Orban’s citizens are in favour of tighter immigration controls

By Paul Bracchi for the Daily Mail

The razor-wire fence has become a defining symbol of the migrant crisis. The barricade — 4m high and constructed in six weeks on the back of prison labour — runs the length of the country’s 110-mile border with Serbia.
The Berlin Wall, by comparison, was 96 miles long. This hinterland between Hungary and the Balkans was once the main entry point to the European Union for the diaspora pouring out of the Middle East.

Today, on the Hungarian side, waiting for anyone who breaches the barricade, are squads of police reinforced by SWAT teams from Hungary’s elite Counter Terrorism Centre (TEC).

The role of these officers, in black commando uniforms, is to ‘capture persons that pose a danger for themselves and the public’ — a mission statement that leaves little doubt about the way Budapest views the wave of asylum seekers we have all seen on the TV news.

There is another, more fundamental, sub-plot to Hungary’s brutally effective migrant policy, though.
It is encapsulated in Mr Orban’s inflammatory public statements about ‘Christian Europe’ being under threat. ‘If you’re being overrun, you can’t accept migrants,’ he wrote in a German daily newspaper.

‘We must not forget that those who are coming in have been brought up under a different religion and represent a profoundly different culture.

‘The majority are not Christians but Muslims. That is an important question because Europe and European culture have Christian roots. Is it not already, and in itself, alarming that Europe’s Christian culture is barely able to uphold Europe’s own Christian values? The people want us to control the situation and protect our borders.’

The Crusader rhetoric conjures up an image of Muslim hordes at the gates of fortress Hungary. Indeed, to understand the psychological forces behind the hatred you need to understand how Christian-Muslim conflict is deeply embedded in the Hungarian DNA just as mutual suspicion and hatred have historically existed between Arab and Jew in the Middle East or Catholic and Protestant in Northern Ireland.

Mr Orban is both reflecting — and many, would say, exploiting — this primal fear of ‘outsiders’, especially Muslim outsiders, in Hungary.

The origins of that legacy can be found in Mohacs, a small town on the Danube, near the Croatian border. It was here in 1526 that a heavily outnumbered Hungarian army suffered a crushing defeat at the hands of Ottoman invaders under Suleiman the Magnificent.

The Battle of Mohacs was Hungary’s equivalent of the Battle of Hastings; one defeat led to the Norman conquest of England, the other to 150 years of Ottoman rule in Hungary.

The battlefield on the outskirts of Mohacs is now a memorial site. An inscription inside proclaims: ‘Here began the ruination of a once strong Hungary.’
Mohacs, in fact, marked the end of the old independent Kingdom of Hungary. In the immediate aftermath, Christian churches were converted into mosques, a poll tax was levied on non-Muslims, and Hungarian landlords were dispossessed.

Children in Hungary are taught about this at school, just as British children are taught about 1066. Foreign domination, first by the Ottoman Turks, followed by Austria, then — after World War II — by the Soviet Union, lasted almost five centuries, with Hungary properly emerging only in 1989 as a fully independent republic, following round-table talks which led to the end of communist rule.

Viewed through the prism of history, recent events in Hungary become, if not acceptable, then at least more understandable.
The politician at the centre of the controversy, of course, is Viktor Orban, who insists that Hungarians have ‘the right not to live together with populous Muslim communities’.

One statistic, in particular, has been used to justify the government’s hardline position on migrants. The figure is 291,000 — the number of migrants who entered the country illegally this year before the border was fenced off. Of these, 80 per cent were single young men, according to the latest UN data.

The Hungarian authorities have no idea who these people are. They could be potential terrorists or economic migrants. But one thing is for sure, the Hungarians reason: they couldn’t have been genuine refugees, otherwise why would they have entered the country illegally?

Mr Orban has described this most recent ‘influx’ as an invasion. The figure he quotes (291,000) does not include genuine asylum seekers.

Under the EU’s controversial Dublin regulation, refugees have to claim asylum in the first ‘safe’ EU country they arrive in. Serbia is not in the EU and Greece, which would normally be responsible for registering many of those now crossing the Aegean Sea, is no longer considered a ‘safe state’ because of its austerity programmes.

So the burden has fallen on Hungary, because, geographically, it is first EU country that migrants travelling through the Balkans reach.
This, despite the fact that the country is run by an anti-immigration, Right-wing government. And this is the great irony at the heart of Hungary’s migrant crisis.

Will Hungary back down? Having spent the past week here, I can tell you that the answer to that is categorically no. The migrant crisis is a vote winner for Mr Orban.

Will Hungary be kicked out of the EU? Perhaps that question can be answered with another one. When was the last time anyone got kicked out of the EU? French President François Hollande says: ‘States that don’t respect European values should ask if they belong within the EU.’

We know Mr Orban’s response: ‘I think we have a right to decide that we don’t want to have a large number of Muslim people in our country.

I don’t see any reason to force us into a way of living together in Hungary that we don’t want to see.’ He has no wish to repeat the West’s ‘failed experiments’ in multiculturalism. In Britain, Mr Orban says, we have de facto segregation, with parallel societies in towns and cities.

Anyone who has been to Dewsbury in West Yorkshire, where even the ice cream lady wears a burka, might recognise what he is saying.

In Hungary, by contrast, less than one per cent of the population of just under 10 million is Muslim. There are a mere 15 mosques in the country. They are small, mostly based in converted homes, and are without minarets which, significantly, are not allowed.
The Muslim community is, to all extents and purposes, invisible.
The Hungarian Islamic Community (HIC) is housed in a mosque in an old pharmacy in the back streets of Budapest.
Muslim women from this mosque are reluctant to wear Islamic clothing on public transport. Two Muslim women were threatened on a bus a few days ago by a woman with a knife because they were wearing traditional headscarves.
For its part, Hungary is a predominantly Catholic country. Earlier this month, Pope Francis called on every Catholic parish across Europe to help alleviate the migrant crisis.

The tensions were laid bare in an extraordinary interview given by a Hungarian bishop. ‘They’re not refugees,’ declared Laszlo Kiss-Rigo, Bishop of Szeged-Csanad in southern Hungary.

Like Mr Orban, he called what is happening an ‘invasion’. But he went further. ‘They come here with cries of ‘Allahu Akbar’,’ he said. ‘They want to take over. The Pope doesn’t know the situation. Most of them behave in a way that is arrogant and cynical.’
Back in Roszke, Jozsef Turi, who runs the village supermarket, showed me the bushes outside his shop where migrants used to hide when they saw police.

On other occasions, they came into his store to buy SIM cards for their iPhones and other mobiles. Some female staff were too scared to start work early in the morning in case they ran into them.

Over at Istvan Molnar’s home, there is a discarded blanket near a chicken coop at the back of his house where he once found a migrant sleeping.
Almost every night, he said, huge groups would pass by. Sometimes they would knock on his window and shout: ‘Taxi, taxi.’

continues

Hope you have no problems with the link I have posted.  Sometimes (I finally got lucky) it opens all the way without freezing up.
I suppose also it could be my connection. But then, why not everywhere else as well? 

And by the way.  Speaking of migrants and invaders.  It’s interchangeable.

Groups of 100 strong and armed with sticks and whatever else is handy, and organized by an anarchist group containing some Brits, forced their way into the Chunnel, that is, the rail link that runs under the English channel to France.  They managed to hold up rail movement for some 8 or 10 hours.  They tore down fences, ambushed trucks by throwing stones and when trucks stopped they tried to board.  So those two things were happening at the same time last week.  As usual and especially when anarchists are involved, there’s damage.
There really is a crying need for some sort of military action that should be taken against all these vermin.  Hit squads that have as targets, anarchists wherever they are found, and migrants simply for target practice to hone their skills.

Hungary has posted signs and taken out ads , some in English.  While most invaders especially the younger ones can speak some English, I wonder if they can also read it.

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