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death toll mounts

Norway police say gunman kills at least 80 youths



What the hell? I was more than 5 hours late getting to this story. Surely they could have counted higher than 10 by late afternoon? How the EFF can they say “9 or 10” when several hours later they say “at least 80”? Were the bodies washed out to see, or hidden under bushes?

I hate to say it, but something stinks.

OSLO (Reuters) - A gunman shot dead at least 80 youths at a summer camp of the ruling Labour Party on Friday, police said.

“The updated knowledge we are sitting on now is at least 80,” police chief Oystein Maeland told a news conference. “We can’t guarantee that won’t increase somewhat,” he said, adding some were badly injured.

Previously, police had said that at least 10 had been killed in the shooting at the Utoeya island northwest of Oslo, along with seven killed by a bomb blast in central Oslo.

Maeland said the attack had reached “catastrophic dimensions.”

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Killer was “Right Wing Extremist”

Man held after Norway attacks right-wing extremist: report

OSLO (Reuters) - The Norwegian man detained after twin attacks in Norway on Friday that killed at least 17 people has links to right-wing extremism, independent Norwegian television TV2 reported on Saturday, without disclosing its sources.

Police were searching a flat in west Oslo where the man lived, TV2 said.

What, you mean that Bush didn’t do it????

Something stinks there too.

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Suspect in custody: 32 year old Anders Behring Breivik? This is not jihad after all, even though a jihadi front group took credit for the bombing?

A group called “Helpers of Global Jihad” has taken responsibility for the bomb which ripped open buildings, including the prime minister’s office, in Norway’s capital, CBS News has learned.

It is apparently the same local shadowy extremist group that the Stockholm bomber in December 2010 had said he was connected to.

I’m confused ... but maybe they are too, since MORE BOMBS have been found that haven’t gone off yet:

(Reuters) - Undetonated explosives were found on the [Utoeya] island where a gunman killed at least 10 people at a youth camp near Oslo, Norwegian police said on Friday.

“Explosives were found on the island,” deputy Oslo police chief Sveining Sponheim told reporters. He said a man detained by police was aged 32 and “ethnic Norwegian.”

He said that police expected that the death toll in the shooting was expected to rise from 10. The shooting followed a bomb blast in Oslo, in which seven people were killed.

I really can’t tell you what’s what. Apparently there was at least one large bomb that exploded in Oslo this morning, in front of the government office building, and that killed perhaps 7 people. A short while later someone - one! - who may or may not be connected to that bombing dressed up as a cop and talked his way onto a tiny little island right offshore that was being used as a summer camp for kids of the left-wing Labour Party, and a large number of children were shot. At least 10 are dead. Perhaps 100. Who knows how many more are wounded or in hiding? It is being said that the children would not talk to authorities because the previous authority figure they had seen was shooting them.

Perhaps 110 people or more are now dead, perhaps at the hands of only one person. And this is now NOT terrorism, until some kind of political group or agenda is ascertained. For now, it’s MERELY mass murder.

Atlas seems to be trying to stay on top of this. Give her a visit ... and ignore Little Green Footballs, where Charles seems to have gone insane ... unless he has the most awful scoop of a lifetime. No, it can’t be. He’s merely a vicious back stabbing bastard doing his best to get himself sued for libel from 3 or more directions at a time.

More: Photos of alleged shooter? Who here can read Noorwegan? This guy couldn’t be much whiter if he tried.

Google translation of the above linked page:

Although the police in Oslo have not yet confirmed, notify Norwegian media that the man suspected of the attack in Oslo, and the subsequent shooting of a youth meeting of the Norwegian Labour Party, a 32-year-old named Anders Behring Breivik is.

Breivik is of Norwegian descent and was several minutes before the bomb explosion seen in Oslo. That perception feeds the suspicion that the man who died after the attack and destruction in the youth camp, acted alone.

A man died there? The shooter, or one of them? Or a victim of them? Either way, it’s news to me.


The 32-year-old Norwegian, who would have far-right bands, is now fixed and will be interrogated. Although he gave no motive for his actions, he is willing to dialogue with the police, reports the newspaper Aftenposten.

Shortly before midnight the police the apartment where his mother lived with Breivik raided and searched the house. Breivik was however recently moved to the rural town of Rena.

Automatic weapons
The shooter at the shooting on the island Utoya used automatic weapons, police said. Whether he from his profession access to weapons, or in any other way he came out, is not yet known.

Breivik has no further known to the police. He has only some traffic to his name. Also, the man, unlike the regular service, no military background.

Faith of a person
It is clear that Breivik on July 17 left a message on Twitter: “Faith of a person is equal to the force of 100,000 others who have only interests”. The Tweet, a quote from the British philosopher and economist John Stuart Mill, was also the only message Breivik.

According to a friend Breivik, who calls himself a nationalist, he has in the past several controversial opinions put on Facebook. This account has been deactivated by Breivik. Later he made a new profile, which he just put links to music videos.

In online debates, including on the site Document.no, Breivik frequently aired his views on the Norwegian politics. He Kant it strongly against the multicultural society and promoted his conservative views.

“He Kant it strongly”. Immanuel Kant, the philosopher? Reason without Experience leads to Chaos ( illusions of theory )? - thus demanding universal multi-culti even though you have no idea what doing that will entail ... will destroy your society or culture? Actually, that sounds pretty reasonable to me. The dangers of the unknown, and the dangers of forcing some untested academic BS on society “for it’s own good” and then trying to ignore the unintended consequences? Oh yeah, that’s radical right wing stuff. As in dead obvious.

It is not impossible that the far right could spawn some violent extremists. The world is round, and if you go too far to the right you’ll wind up being on the far left, with the believers in pro-active Eugenics ... agreeing with their methods, except you’ll choose different targets ... and how else could you possibly rationalize the murder of perhaps 100 children of members of the Labour Party?


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