Thursday - February 13, 2014

“May Issue” Gets a West Coast Slapdown

A divided federal appeals court on Thursday struck down California’s concealed weapons rules, saying they violate the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

By a 2-1 vote, the three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said California was wrong to require applicants to show good cause to receive a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

“The right to bear arms includes the right to carry an operable firearm outside the home for the lawful purpose of self-defense,” Judge Diarmuid O’Scannlain wrote for the majority.

Thank you judge O’Scannlin, you are a true American.

Judge Sidney Thomas dissented, writing that the good cause requirement limited the number of people carrying concealed handguns in public to those legitimately in need.

“It limits the risk to public safety by reducing the number of guns in public circulation, but allows those who will most likely need to defend themselves in public to carry a handgun,” Thomas wrote.

Unfortunately he has to work with nanny-state pinkos just like the rest of us.

Officials are required to follow the state rules requiring applicants to show good cause and moral character.

The San Francisco-based appeals court said those requirements were too strict and ran afoul of a 5-4 landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling in 2008 that struck down a Washington, D.C., handgun ban and said law-abiding citizens are allowed to have handguns in their home for self-defense.

The appeals court on Thursday reinstated a lawsuit filed in 2009 by Edward Peruta, who challenged San Diego County’s denial of a concealed weapons permit.

The ruling on Thursday also disagreed with three other federal appeals courts that have upheld permit rules similar to the one in California.

The U.S. Supreme Court often takes cases when federal appeals courts issue conflicting rulings.

Moral character? How the HELL are you supposed to judge moral character in California? It’s probably illegal to do so, because darn near everything morality is based on has been thrown under the bus in PC-insane la-la land. And what constitutes “good cause” in that state these days? Not wanting to be dissed by my homies for having no caps in da hood?

Whatever ... but this is yet another case in point that any and every “may issue” state is in fact prejudicial/racist/elitist/politically biased/unfair. In other words, the law is selectively applied. And that application method makes the law corrupt and wrong. Equal rights and equal application, or flush the law down the low water using, self composting green toilet.

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   Thursday - January 23, 2014

What is this Low Information senator talking about?

H/T: Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiller

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nice gun

A pretty sight, if it isn’t pointed at you.

H/T our bmews friend LyndonB, who sent this today.

Your article on that Smith & Wesson in BMEWS reminded me of my spell in the Canadian gun shop. We had a couple of these on the shelf that came from Calgary (‘cause no one could sell them) Though they do have hand guns in Canuckistan they are licensed and can only be used at approved ranges so are not as easy to own as in the US. I think this was a .460

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   Tuesday - January 21, 2014

gun porn

Long day for me and been up since approx.3am. So before shut down I ran across this item of interest.

Does this gun appear somewhat cumbersome to you? 

Take a look.  And there are some very good close up stills at the link below.

The Backpack Cannon: Smith & Wesson unveil their new monster revolver - ‘a great gun for a back-up gun or for hunting’

Backpack cannon is for ‘when critters are big enough to eat you’
Packs a huge .460 calibre bullet, shock handle and high-vis sight
Smith & Wesson admit that handguns are ‘second choice’ to rifles

By Luke Garratt

Gun Manufacturers Smith & Wesson have unleashed their newest revolver: a monster .460 calibre handgun which they say is ‘great for a back-up gun, or for hunting’.

Named the ‘Backpack Cannon’, the gun was unveiled in Las Vegas on Monday at the Shooting, Hunting, and Outdoor Trade show, the largest gun show in the U.S., which around 60,000 gun fans attend every year.

The cannon - officially called the Performance Center Model.460 - features a three-inch barrel, high visibility sights and synthetic shock absorber on the rear of the handle, as well as a massive chamber to fit the gigantic .460 calibre rounds, which are some of the biggest and most powerful bullets in the world.

Smith & Wesson acknowledges that revolvers have been replaced by high-capacity semi-automatic pistols such as the Glock series when it comes to self defense, often taking the place of ‘second-choice’ among potential gun owners.

However large caliber still have a dedicated following, with models such as the .500 Magnum - which fires an even larger bullet than the backpack cannon - being the most popular example.

But while they may be toted by action film heroes, the reality is that large caliber weapons such as the .460 revolver are largely confined to target shooting.

Smith & Wesson says they think that their new revolver will make a nice companion for those that enjoy outdoor activities.

more to read and see here

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   Saturday - January 04, 2014

Cold Dose Of Reality

Detroit’s police chief has a solution to help drive down crime in one of the nation’s most dangerous cities: arm more citizens.

James Craig made the comments at a police press conference Thursday, when he announced a 7 percent drop in violent crime in 2013, The Detroit News reported. Although urban police typically favor gun control, Craig said his views evolved after working in Los Angeles and Maine, where concealed weapons permits are more easily obtained.

“I changed my orientation real quick,” Craig said. “Maine is one of the safest places in America. Clearly, suspects knew that good Americans were armed.”

Thursday’s comments echo statements Craig has made in the past, including those he made last month, when he said responsible citizens who carry concealed pistol licenses “translates into crime reduction.”

And this from a somewhat-black guy, guaranteed to be part of the Democrat political machine that runs Detroilet. Amazing. But what do you expect? They’ve tried everything else, and spent tons of your money on every hairball plan they could dream up. None of which worked. So now, at the very end of things, when the city is bankrupt and little more than a crater in the ground, suddenly the guy has a Come To Jesus moment. Great. On the one hand, super. On the other, fuck you. This kind of reminds me of how Time Magazine is suddenly in favor of deer hunting, and have just now notice how Obamacare is a crock.

At Thursday’s press conference, Craig announced that Detroit’s homicide rate last year was 47.5 per 100,000 residents, down from 55 the year before, the Detroit Free Press reported. Authorities added that there were 1,161 non-fatal shootings in the city, an 8 percent drop from 2012, along with decreases in aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, carjackings, burglaries and stolen vehicles. Larcenies rose, however.

Despite the drop, Detroit still recorded as many homicides as New York City – despite having a population that’s less than one-tenth the size of the Big Apple, the Free Press reported.

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   Friday - January 03, 2014

Tyrant

The Obama administration on Friday proposed two new executive actions to make it easier for states to provide mental health information to the national background check system, wading back into the gun control debate after a months-long hiatus.

Vice President Biden’s office announced the proposals Friday afternoon. Both pertain to the ability of states to provide information about the mentally ill and those seeking mental health treatment to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

One proposal would formally give permission to states to submit “the limited information necessary to help keep guns out of potentially dangerous hands,” without having to worry about the privacy provisions in a law known as HIPAA.

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   Tuesday - December 31, 2013

a repost of past images for your consideration

I don’t now recall who posted this earlier. Goes some months past. I had saved it to share in an email, and am re-posting it now, cos it’s something I have long believe in, even before I found bmews. 

I posted this only recently, but again, it’s that 5th column I’ve banged on about so often in the past.  Then I found this without even looking for it. I’d never even heard of this guy before.  His quote is chilling because it was said so long ago, and answers one question heard a lot which is, how the heck did we ever get to here?  Well here’s how it’s been done.  I think the quote should be passed around.

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Just another weekend in DC

DC Police, Secret Service investigating drive-by shooting just steps from White House

Businesses near the White House were riddled with bullets in a two-block drive-by shooting this weekend, prompting a Secret Service investigation.

Two of those bullets entered the window and hit the walls inside Brewood Engravers & Printers at 1701 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, just a block from the White House, in a shooting that occurred at approximately 2:30 AM early Saturday morning. The office building entrance, next door to the shop, also has a window boarded up.

The Caribou Coffee at the corner of 17th and Pennsylvania, right across the street from the White House — and normally, a large Secret Service presence — has a wall-length window boarded up. An employee inside Caribou confirmed that a shooting took out the store’s window.

White House staffers have reportedly held meetings at that particular Caribou Coffee to avoid having to record their interactions in White House visitor logs.

A Secret Service agent investigating the matter Monday told Mark Perlman, the manager of Brewood Engraving, that the incident appears to have been a two-block shooting. No motive is known at this time. The Secret Service does not know how many suspects may have been involved, but believes that the shooters were in a car and were not targeting any specific business.

At least one 9 mm bullet was found inside Brewood Engravers.

In case you’ve never been to our nation’s capitol city, it’s a total facade, even worse than NJ’s Atlantic City. You’ve got your government buildings, you’ve got your famous landmarks, you’ve got your memorials and reflecting pools. And around the corner, and sometimes even between one landmark and the next, is some serious low rent ghetto. Not as bad as Detroilet, not as bad as Camden or East St. Louis or Baltimore. But not much better either.

Generally, the Trayvons and the other hood rats know enough to stay out of the Whites and Tourist areas. Keep their she-it in da hood, and nobody knows nuffin. But - perhaps just like the Short Hills Mall shooting here in NJ last week, the Rubicon has again been crossed. Now we’ve got a gang-banger just popping off a whole box full o’ caps right across the street from the White House. In DC, the city with the most restrictive gun laws in the entire country. The city “protected” by more damn armed alphabet agencies, by a massive police force with all the toys, by their own Marine base, and by every kind of spy, secret agent, and covert ninja they can come up with. Not to mention 96 zillion CCTV cameras, microphones, lasers, metal detectors, and the most complex and classified city-wide security system known to man, that can handle everything from snipers to rioters to incoming ICBMs ... at an annual cost of gazillions, all to keep our top government people safe.

And some schwoogie can lean his droopy pantsed punk ass out the window of some urban cruiser and shoot the hell out of the neighborhood and nobody - NOBODY - knows nothing.

WTF people, WTF. That hood rat shouldn’t have made it 20 yards without a Marine boot up his ass and 5 MIB pushing his face through the asphalt.

We’re looking at MAJOR FAIL here ... and Al Q is reading this news report and laughing until they wet themselves.

And nothing will come of it either. No arrests, no firings, no tactical analysis, no nada. Oh wait: 12 agencies, including the National Park Service’s Monument Police, will cry for extra budget money so they can buy more tanks, more guns, more ammo, and more worthless training. Then go back to not doing their jobs, but keeping a super sharp eye on old ladies, vets in wheelchairs, and those radical white people with the TEA protest signs. You don’t dare turn your back on any of those folks, no sir.

A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police Department said 6 properties were damaged by the early morning gunshots and that Secret Service is on the scene.

“Well, on Saturday morning about 2:30, there was a car running down the street and somebody was shooting with a nine-millimeter handgun,” the Brewood Engravers manager told TheDC, relaying his conversation with the Secret Service investigator. ”Two bullets hit our window. They hit Caribou Coffee. So they were shooting for about two blocks down Pennsylvania Ave.”

“They’re hoping to get video and hopefully see who perpetrated the crime…No products hit. Just the walls and the window,” Perlman said.

It’s “very weird” that something like this could happen so close to the White House, Perlman said. “Usually this is a pretty safe section of town.”

Yeah, usually. But not any longer. Hey Eric Holder - better keep “your people” in line!

PS - and yes, I am fully aware that the US Marines do not have, nor are allowed to have, an active roll in crime prevention out on the streets. Posse Comitatus and all that. But if there’s one group of feds with guns that I have any respect for, it would be them. So I’d daydream that they’d be on the spot and proactive. It makes a good mental image, and I’m sure that, given the legal opportunity, I could get 10,000 of them to volunteer in a second to kick some gang-banger ass.

PPS - bad Drew, assuming this shooting was done by Urban Black Youth. Are you shitting me? I bet you 5,000 to 1 ... 10,000 to 1 ... that this is exactly who did it. Even if the MSM/feds rig a fall guy and report otherwise! Besides, if it had been some white guy, at least he would have hit whatever he was aiming at!

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   Thursday - December 05, 2013

New York City Off The Rails Again

No, this time the train wreck is coming from the Mayor’s office.

Gun control ... NYC and NY have a law on the books that no pistol can have more than 7 rounds in it, yet three years back they decided that no rifle or shotgun can have more than four rounds in it. So today they’ve decided to start enforcing the law, I guess after giving the known owners plenty of time to sell or modify their rifles to a new, lower than designed capacity. And the letters are going out, since NYC demands that rifles and shotguns also be registered, and owned by permit, and all that BS nanny state hoplophobic socialist nonsense. Non of which, of course, is going to even slow down the gang bangers with their Scorpions, Mac-10s, fully automatic AKs, and their 50 round drum magz or 30 round stick mags.

And of course, the media gets it wrong, but no wronger than the moronic NYPD, who showcases the “turn in your illegal rifles with their high capacity magazines” effort by holding a press conference and displaying ... a hand grenade.  And several pistols.  

The New York City Police Department is taking aim at owners of certain shotguns and rifles, telling them all long guns with a five-round or more capacity must be turned in, altered or taken out of town.

An estimated 500 recipients of the notices, which were mailed on Nov. 18, were given the options to surrender their gun, permanently move the gun out of city jurisdiction or employ a licensed gunsmith to modify the weapon to get into compliance with the law. Rifles and shotguns with a capacity of five or more rounds are affected.

An NYPD spokeswoman told FoxNews.com the initiative has been in practice since 2010.

The SAFE Act was the first law in the nation prompted by the December 2012 killing of 20 first-graders and six educators in Newtown, Conn. Its passage was seen as a victory for gun-control advocates because it expands a ban on military-style weapons, requires mental health professionals to report threats, limits magazines to seven bullets, taxes bullets and creates a registry.

Though these notices were not sent out as a direct result of the SAFE Act, New York State Assemblyman James Tedisco said the new law may embolden city police forces to send out similar letters.

Tedisco, who voted against the SAFE Act, said New York City had the five-round law in the books for about 20 years, but this is the first time he has heard complaints about the notices being sent out to gun owners.

“These letters appear to be another example of the Nanny State,” Tedisco said. “Hypothetically, it can start with a letter, and then that can lead to someone knocking on your door saying, ‘I want to see your gun.’”

Bolt action hunting rifles with blind or fixed magazines that hold more than four rounds have been made for more than 120 years now. The Krag-Jorgensen rifle of 1892 had a 5 round magazine, as did the 1903 Springfield. Both are illegal in New York City. Any hunting rifle that can chamber one round while holding four or more in any kind of magazine is now illegal ... which outlaws damn near every repeating rifle ever made. Great grandpa’s .30-30 Winchester Model 94 is a 7-shooter, so it’s illegal too.

So not only is the news media “regular” stoopid for the “clips” thing ...

... these are “multi clips” ...

they know so little about firearms that they can’t see the bigger picture or even realize that one is there. A ban on repeating long guns that hold more than 4 rounds is a ban on nearly every rifle (and many pump or semi-auto shotguns) made in the last 135 years. In other words, pretty much all of them.

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   Thursday - November 28, 2013

a word about guns ….

As our regulars must be aware by now, I have been off my feed for a few days and still caring for a very ill wife and so some things have taken a back seat.
I checked my inbox tonight and found 80 entries I am still trying to work my way thru and doubt I’ll finish them this night. Maybe tomorrow.
This is one of the many things I found and I don’t even know how long its been sitting there.

With much thanks and H/T to Raffs for this.

..... CARRY A LOADED GUN!!!

Serious self-defense advice from various Concealed Carry Instructors.

If you own a gun, you will appreciate these rules...If not, you should get one and learn how to use it and learn the rules:

1:  Guns have only two enemies - rust and politicians.

2:  It’s always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

3:  Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.

4:  Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arm’s length. In other words don’t hug a bear.

5:  Never say “I’ve got a gun.” If you need to use deadly force, the First sound they hear should be the safety clicking off.

6:  The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes; the response Time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.

7:  The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win - there is no such thing as a fair fight. Always win - cheat if necessary.

8:  Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets ... You may get killed with your own gun, but he’ll have to beat you to death with it, ‘cause it will be empty.

9:  If you’re in a gun fight: If you’re not shooting, you should be loading. If you’re not loading, you should be moving.  If you’re not moving, you’re dead.

10:  In a life and death situation, do something ... it may be wrong, but do something!

11:  If you carry a gun, people call you paranoid.  Nonsense!  If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about?

12:  You can say ‘stop’ or any other word, but a large bore muzzle pointed at someone’s head is pretty much a universal language.

13:  You cannot save the planet, but you may be able to save yourself and your family.

“Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading”

-- Thomas Jefferson

Any evidence Jefferson ever said that? I like the quote but the language doesn’t belong to that century.

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   Saturday - November 23, 2013

Annie Oakley’s gun and charm bracelet will be up for auction Sunday

Our kinda woman but ....

Is that a shotgun she’s holding?  Doesn’t look like it but with my eyes, it’s hard to tell.  Had em less than a week and trying to get used to these new glasses. Paid enuff but like the old ones. Anyway ....  the DM does take liberty their facts when doing captions and headlines ,I have found over time.
I’d never read or heard of her referred to as, a gunslinger, which really denotes another thing altogether.

Take a look.  Some nice photos at the link.

‘Wild West’ gunslinger Annie Oakley’s 130-year-old shotgun on sale for $100,000

Annie Oakley’s gun and charm bracelet on sale for nearly $100,000 each

She toured with Buffalo Bill Cody’s traveling Wild West show

Oakley was so confident, she once shot Kaiser Wilhelm II’s cigarette from his mouth
Auction in Dallas on Sunday

By Daily Mail Reporter

A shotgun once owned by Wild West sharpshooter Annie Oakley is expected to fetch at least £60,000 at auction.

Oakley was just 25 when she literally shot herself to fame as the top attraction in Buffalo Bill Cody’s travelling Wild West show. She drew huge crowds with her remarkable skills.

Her most famous trick was shooting a playing card facing side-on, then hitting the pieces again as they fell to the floor –from 90ft away.

The 1893 16-gauge Parker hammer shotgun is thought to be Oakley’s first proper gun and came to be one of her favourites.

She used it to wow audiences around the world for 20 years before retiring from the show to take up acting.

During her time on the road she performed for dignitaries including Queen Victoria and Kaiser Wilhelm II.

She was so sure of her talent that for one daring stunt she shot the Kaiser’s cigarette from his mouth.

Granted I never looked for it or made a study on the subject but ... I never saw a photo among the many I have seen over many years, of the Kaiser with a cigarette in his one good hand. If he smoked at all I tend to think it would have been a cigar, which in those days was considered a more manly smoke. But even then, I never saw a photo of him with a cigar either.  Now I am aware that just cos I didn’t see it does not mean it didn’t take place. Only that I never noticed it.

Following the outbreak of the First World War, she wrote a letter to the Kaiser requesting a second shot but he didn’t reply.

Oakley retired in 1913 and died in Ohio in 1926 aged 66.

Also up for sale is Oakley’s treasured charm bracelet boasting trinkets from her admirers including one from Buffalo Bill.

Experts have tipped both the gun and the charm bracelet to fetch about $97,000 each when they go under the hammer.

They are being sold by Oakley’s great grand niece Bess Edwards, 90, who in 1984 established the Annie Oakley Foundation in her memory.

‘Annie Oakley is remembered as an incredibly talented trick shooter who was the star performer with Buffalo Bill’s Wild West Show for almost 20 years. Tom Slater, an expert in Americana at auctioneers Heritage, said.

‘She was so popular that arguably she made Buffalo Bill’s show famous, not the other way round.

‘Annie was skilled with a gun from an early age and was named Little Sure Shot by Native American chief Sitting Bull who also toured with the show.

‘She would use all manner of guns in her act but she favored shotguns because their scatter-spray meant it was slightly easier to hit targets.

‘She bought this gun in 1883 and there is no evidence of her owning a gun before this one.

‘Parker guns were the best you could get and she used this gun throughout her time with the Wild West show.

more to see, more to read. source

The Kaiser had one good hand, the other was withered from accident at birth. He was always conscience of the deformity, his mother didn’t help any and was embarrassed by it. People had vastly different views and attitudes then. So anyway .... it doesn’t seem to me that the Kaiser would have ever taken part in what would have been for him, an undignified stunt.  His persona wouldn’t allow for that I don’t think.  Stiff and formal and of military bearing. I don’t think that lends itself to what is described in this article. His generation remember was more of the 19th then the 20th century.

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   Friday - October 25, 2013

WTF?

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   Sunday - October 13, 2013

traitors and the ones who help them who also hate the USA

Over the past week there have been and continue to be, numerous articles about the files stolen by American traitor scum Snowden. Who btw has been given a freedom of speech award. Fancy that.  He needs an acid bath but unfortunately is hiding away in Russia at the moment.

Anyway, this is just one of a few things I am posting on the subject, which has been bothering me for awhile.

MI5 concerns over The Guardian sending top secret files… by Fedex: Newspaper used public courier firm to post data out of the country

· The newspaper saved files from leaker Edward Snowden to a USB stick

· It then sent the files to the USA via the FedEx delivery service

· The move has been described as creating a security risk

· Intelligence experts have accused The Guardian of ‘playing parlour games’ with national security

By Robert Verkaik

The Guardian newspaper sent top-secret files containing classified information to the United States by household courier FedEx, it was revealed last night.

The security risk is the latest to engulf the newspaper after the head of MI5 warned last week that publication of confidential data leaked by US fugitive Edward Snowden had caused huge ‘harm’ to the capability of Britain’s intelligence services.

Last night, senior security figures lambasted the newspaper for using Federal Express to carry the encrypted files.

Former anti-terror law watchdog Alex Carlile QC said the decision may have put the lives of British spies in danger.

‘I think it is astonishing that top-secret material has been placed in a public parcel delivery system,’ he said.
Security chiefs are also understood to be ‘very concerned’ at the use of a courier company. One source said: ‘Any leak like this is extremely concerning and part of that concern is the handling arrangements.’

The data – from GCHQ, the Government’s secret communications headquarters – was copied from the original Snowden cache on to a USB memory stick and sent by FedEx to a ‘disguised’ US intermediary in June this year. Measures were taken to ensure its safe passage.

He was told that if The Guardian was ‘muzzled’ he was to make sure the material was published on ProPublica, a not-for-profit New York website which publishes investigative journalism.

Weeks later, GCHQ officials visited the newspaper’s London offices to destroy computers and hard drives in the belief they had closed the security breach.
According to a report last week in The New Yorker, Mr Rusbridger sent a ‘Federal Express package containing a thumbnail drive of selected Snowden documents to an intermediary in the US’.

Rusbridger hinted that the Government might be too late to prevent publication of further material.

Lord Carlile accused The Guardian of playing ‘a parlour game’ with national security.
His comments are at odds with other leading Lib Dems, including Business Secretary Vince Cable, who have supported The Guardian.

He said: ‘I am very surprised The Guardian has not paid enough attention to comments by Andrew Parker [MI5 director general] and others about the damage these disclosures have done or can still do to national security.

‘There are individuals whose safety might be affected by these disclosures. We are talking about MI5, MI6 and the national security agents of other countries.

‘I think it is astonishing that a large amount of top-secret material has been placed in a public parcel delivery system.

A GREAT DEAL MORE TO SEE HERE

Here’s the American hating left wing Marxist bastard who is the editor.

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   Tuesday - October 01, 2013

Bang Bang

h/t to Vilmar, who today posted on the Bira Gun without even realizing it. The Gardner Gun is Bira’s daddy.

Whatever happens, we have got
The Maxim Gun, and they have not

Once upon a time, in the early Industrial Revolution but before the Age of Steel, slightly after the dawn of metallic firearms cartridges but before the onset of properly drawn cases, there were machines that were guns. But not machine guns. In a world in love with wheels, camshafts, gears, belts, and reciprocating assemblies, these not-quite automatic weapons were a cross between a rifle battery and a sewing machine. You’ve heard of the Gatling Gun, a cumbersome, finicky, multiple barreled, usually horse drawn affair. You may also have heard of the Hotchkiss and the Nordenfeldt, two other mechanical repeaters of that era. By the time Hiram Maxim got around to inventing the properly fully automatic belt fed machine gun a few years later, the era was over. But for about a decade, 1874 to 1885-ish, the hand cranked multiple barreled pintel mounted repeating gun was king of the world. And then faded into forgotten obscurity, although the Bira Gun came late to the party, was made entirely by hand, and never actually put to the test of combat.

The problem with all of these weapons was solved by Maxim and his belt feed. You simply couldn’t feed these guns cartridges fast enough to maximize their usefulness. And nearly all of them were fed from the top, where a big cartridge hopper rather gets in the way of your gunner’s aim.

The Gardner Gun, patented in 1874, solved at least 3 of the problems inherent in the Gatling Gun. It weighed a whole lot less, so it was easier to carry around. It had a very simple mechanism with about 6 moving parts per barrel, so it jammed less and was easier to clear when it did jam. It was water cooled, so you could maintain a high rate of fire without having to build a carousel battery with half a dozen or more barrels. And it probably cost a whole lot less too.

Here’s the patent drawing for the Gardner Gun’s internals:

Kudos to you if you immediately notice the similarity between this weapon and an automobile engine. Because they’re nearly the same thing. Four stroke engine, four stroke gun. Intake, compression, power, exhaust. Load, fire, extract, eject. The operating crank is the crankshaft and the bolts are the connecting rods and pistons, and the chamber is the combustion chamber. Exchange cartridges for gasoline, add a couple of valves and a spark plug, and it’s an engine. Well, not exactly, and exactly backwards in operation, but mighty similar nonetheless.

Gardner guns could be made with as many or as few barrels as you wanted, from 1 to 10, though 2 was the most common. Make them in brass or in steel. Invented in America, but a dud in our market, Gardner took his stuff to Europe and sold lots of them.

Cartridge most often used was the Army round of the day, the .45-70. Rate of fire was entirely dependent on your ability to feed the thing, and on the quality of your cartridges. Call it 300-500 rounds per minute, which is just as fast as the current Browning M2 fires.

Dependable? Tests run by the British Army found that the Gardner ran 16,754 shots before wearing down, with only 2 dozen jams the whole while. Pretty good for a chunk of brass milled to the nearest 100th of an inch.

Oh, and these things are completely legal. Because it ISN’T an automatic weapon. And you can buy new ones. And then all you need to do is get out your reloading press and churn out buckets and buckets of .45-70 ammo. Black powder powered, paper patched 500 grain lead bullets. Have fun!

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Posted by Drew458     on 10/01/2013 at 12:01 PM   
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