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Thursday - July 07, 2011

It’s Getting Higher

Project Gunwalker/Fast & Furious Scandal Goes To The Top
FBI and DEA Involved
Eric Holder’s Toes Held to the Fire

Good! Bring down the government and flush out the shitheels at FBI and DEA. This is a CRIMINAL ACT people, a knowing, willing, purposeful breaking of the law for political purposes. It is BIGGER THAN WATERGATE. This is the Executive Branch and the top powers of law enforcement creating a false flag operation to DENY YOU YOUR 2nd Amendment RIGHTS!!

But only if you keep the pressure on. Write, email, phone your reps. Do the same for the media. Demand an honest, open, and huge investigation. AG Eric Holder ACTED UNDER ORDERS, as did the BATFE, FBI, DEA, and who knows who else? Probably the damn Parks Department too. And who has the power to coordinate those departments? President Obama and the Director of Homeland Security.

Americans have DIED because of this con!! And the whole bleeding thing was done to advance the Democratic Agenda: more gun control. Plain and simple.

Yesterday, Acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson answered questions from Rep. Darrell Issa and Senator Charles Grassley surrounding Operation Fast and Furious. Melson voluntarily participated in the interview and appeared with personal counsel, meaning although the Justice Department has prohibited Melson to testify before Congress on behalf of the DOJ about the scandal, he can in fact come forward with information as an individual informant outside of the DOJ and separate from DOJ interests.
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Melson revealed the scope of Operation Fast and Furious reaches far beyond ATF and the Justice Department. He said the FBI, DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) and other agencies were heavily involved:

We have very real indications from several sources that some of the gun trafficking “higher-ups” that the ATF sought to identify were already known to other agencies and may even have been paid as informants. The Acting Director said that ATF was kept in the dark about certain activities of other agencies, including DEA and FBI. Mr.Melson said that he learned from ATF agents in the field that information obtained by these agencies could have had a material impact on the Fast and Furious investigation as far back as late 2009 or early 2010. After learning about the possible role of DEA and FBI, he testified that he reported this information in April 2011 to the Acting Inspector General and directly to then-Acting Deputy Attorney General James Cole on June 16, 2011.

The evidence we have gathered raises the disturbing possibility that the Justice Department not only allowed criminals to smuggle weapons but that taxpayer dollars from other agencies may have financed those engaging in such activities. While this is preliminary information, we must find out if there is any truth to it. According to Acting Director Melson, he became aware of this startling possibility only after the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and the indictments of the straw purchasers, which we now know were substantially delayed by the U.S. Attorney’s Office and Main Justice.

Looks like it’s finger pointing time in DC as all the little scumrats scurry around trying to squeak “not me! not me!” Snap a trap on their asses. The top crimefighters in the country, working hand in glove with known alien criminals in hopes of pulling a fast one on the American people? Son of a bitch.

Of course, those words have yet to be spoken. It’s going to take some more heat before the big rats squeak that line out. But you know that that is the real truth. For now the focus is merely on everyone in DC with a suit and a badge being involved with a highly illegal straw purchasing scam. We’ll get around to motives eventually. Right now we’re still turning over rocks looking for worms.

Oh, and merely as an aside, when asked about this by the Mexican government, our big honchos denied everything. Do you know what purposely arming a huge group of organized criminals in a foreign country is, to the point where they effectively become a standing army strong enough to topple the local government and law enforcement agencies? It is an act of war. Straight up subversion. Casus belli. See, toldja is was bigger than Watergate.

The October 27, 2009 email from ATF Phoenix Field Division Special Agent in Charge (SAC) William Newell regarded a Southwest Border Strategy Group meeting that focused on Fast and Furious. It contained a laundry list of high ranking Justice Department officials that attended the meeting, including:

* Assistant Attorney General (Criminal Division) Lanny Breuer,
* Kenneth Melson, Acting Director, ATF
* William Hoover, Acting Deputy Director, ATF
* Michele Leonhart, Administrator, DEA
* Robert Mueller, Director FBI

Four other Justice Department directors or their representatives came from the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF), Bureau of Prisons (BOP), U.S. Marshals Service (USMS), and the Executive Office for United States Attorneys (EOUSA). The chair of the Attorney Generals Advisory Committee (AGAC) also attended the session. Their names were redacted in the released document. U.S. attorneys for all four southwest border states also attended.

Operation Fast and Furious, now known to many by the more accurate name of “Gunwalker,” was a multi-agency operation that allowed and — in some instances — approved the purchase of firearms destined for Mexican drug cartels by so-called “straw buyers.” The purchasers, who had clean criminal records, would buy firearms from U.S. gun stores for drug gangs. While most gun smuggling involves small quantities of weapons, a small number of high-volume straw purchasers each bought hundreds of firearms for the cartels.

ATF agents were told by their supervisors to ignore their agency’s charter and training and allow the guns to be smuggled into Mexico without interdiction. Roughly 2,000 firearms — ranging from pistols and AK-pattern semi-automatic rifles to .50 BMG sniper rifles — were smuggled into Mexico under Gunwalker and without the knowledge of Mexican authorities. Hundreds of smuggled weapons have turned up at crime scenes across Mexico and the U.S. border states and at least 152 law enforcement officers and soldiers have been killed with Gunwalker weapons.

While it has been known since the beginning of the investigation that the ATF, DOJ, DHS, and the IRS were heavily involved in Gunwalker, the Newell email confirms that every major agency within the Department of Justice was briefed on Gunwalker, including the AGAC, which has the formally ordered functions of giving U.S attorneys a voice in department policies and advising the attorney general.

Not to leave the States out of this federal fuck up, the US Attorneys for California, New Mexico, Texas were also in on this. See the .pdf of the actual email at the above link. Makes me wonder who, if anyone (ha!) they briefed back at the statehouses.

Also known as Project Gunrunner, the Arizona-based operation was supposed to be a sting, under which the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which is part of the Justice Department, allowed “straw purchasers” to transfer weapons from gun shops in Arizona to Mexican drug cartels to trace and halt crossborder arms-trafficking.

That’s the official version, anyway—but it’s crumbling, fast.

The ATF’s acting director, Kenneth Melson, has been singing like a canary to congressional investigators as he pushes back against administration pressure for him to resign and take the fall for something that, at the very least, had to include the US Attorney’s Office, the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration and possibly the Homeland Security Department.
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“The evidence we have gathered raises the disturbing possibility that the Justice Department not only allowed criminals to smuggle weapons, but that taxpayer dollars from other agencies may have financed those engaging in such activities,” they wrote.

“It is one thing to argue that the ends justify the means in an attempt to defend a policy that puts building a big case ahead of stopping known criminals from getting guns. Yet it is a much more serious matter to conceal from Congress the possible involvement of other agencies in identifying and maybe even working with the same criminals that Operation Fast and Furious was trying to identify.”

That’s the key to this mess—and the reason that Operation Fast and Furious might turn out to be the biggest Washington scandal since Iran-Contra.

As Issa and Grassley note in their letter, had the other agencies shared information—theoretically the goal of the post-9/11 revamp of the intelligence and law-enforcement agencies—“then ATF might have known that gun trafficking ‘higher-ups’ had already been identified.”

So if the identities of the Mexican criminals were known to the feds, what was the point of Project Gunrunner—and why is Holder so desperately trying to stonewall by withholding hundreds of documents from Congress?

Law-abiding gun owners and dealers think they already know. With the Obama administration wedded to the fiction that 90 percent of the guns Mexican cartels use originate here—they don’t—many suspect that “Fast and Furious” was a backdoor attempt to smear domestic gun aficionados as part of its stealth efforts on gun control by executive fiat.

“I just want you to know that we’re working on it,” Obama was quoted as saying to gun-control advocate Sarah Brady in March. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”

Unfortunately for the administration, this one’s out in the open now.

Right to the top. Hang them all. I mean Out to dry, of course. On a nice clean laundry line. Strung up in a federal penitentiary.

And the cover up and the stonewalling that’s been going on for months now? Gosh, glad you asked:

Mr. Melson said that he told the Office of the Deputy Attorney General (ODAG) at the end of March that the Department needed to reexamine how it was responding to the requests for information from Congress.

According to Mr. Melson, he and ATF’s senior leadership team moved to reassign every manager involved in Fast and Furious, from the Deputy Assistant Director for Field Operations down to the Group Supervisor, after learning the facts in those documents. Mr. Melson also said he was not allowed to communicate to Congress the reasons for the reassignments. He claimed that ATF’s senior leadership would have preferred to be more cooperative with our inquiry much earlier in the process. However, he said that Justice Department officials directed them not to respond and took full control of replying to briefing and document requests from Congress. The result is that Congress only got the parts of the story that the Department wanted us to hear.

Acting ATF Director flat out lays the blame for the smokescreen at Holder’s doorstep:

“If his account is accurate, then ATF leadership appears to have been effectively muzzled while the DOJ sent over false denials and buried its head in the sand,” Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said in a letter Tuesday to Attorney General Eric Holder. “That approach distorted the truth and obstructed our investigation.” (news video at link)

Your taxpayer dollars were spent to buy those guns you know. $10,000,000 to be exact:

[ text of HR1 stimulus bill of 2009 ] For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance’, $40,000,000, for competitive grants to provide assistance and equipment to local law enforcement along the Southern border and in High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas to combat criminal narcotics activity stemming from the Southern border, of which $10,000,000 shall be transferred to ‘Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Salaries and Expenses’ for the ATF Project Gunrunner.

Can’t blame Bush for this one.

Now watch it be utterly buried by the MSM. I already checked CNN.com. This story does not exist. AT ALL. The only thing remotely similar is one story on ATF head may quit from TWO WEEKS ago which does outline Gunwalker somewhat, and another one in which idiot Rep Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland) says how Fast & Furious shows the need for more gun control.

Most honest and transparent government, evah!

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Posted by Drew458

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Thursday - June 30, 2011

The Tactical Cowboy

This May Be Bogus

Somewhere under this:

Horry Clap, what an Ugly Stick!

Is one of these:

Custom built by Sweetwater Precision Weapons for a spec-ops designated marksman, this heavily-modified Marlin .45-70 lever action has been fitted with an ultra-lightweight modular rail system, a titanium-core stock with adjustable buttplate and built-in round saddle, bipod and rubber foregrip. The magazine tube has been extended, and the barrel is a specialized heavy version with integrated compensator, which can be replaced with a Tilltac threaded barrel for use of a silencer.

After extensive range (and eventually, field) testing, the owner of this rifle found that at distances of 100-500 yards, he was far more comfortable shooting his scoped civilian Guide Gun than with any government issue semi-automatic. As a key element in a classified counter-terrorism team, Sweetwater was contracted to build a modular tactical weapons system around his game rifle.

Designed for use in urban areas, the SPW Marlin Mod 0 weighs in at 12.3 lbs. The Tilltac “HBRR” bolt design allows for incredibly accurate fire, though the lever action made it necessary to install an extendable (high-rise) bipod. While awkward for most operatives, the gun’s owner, having hunted with the same weapon since childhood, has little trouble maneuvering the action, even from a prone shooting position. The powerful .45-70 Government cartridge has been re-tooled by Tillman Tactical for much higher velocity and, as a result, an increased pont-blank range (comparable to a modern 5.56mm NATO round.)

Shown here fitted with a Sweetwater night vision scope, this rifle is one of a kind- and has over a dozen confirmed kills.

Yeah, you could hang all that stuff on a Marlin. The “scout mount” Picatinny rails already exist. So you could mount a night scope. Once you’ve mated an M-16 style floating forearm to the rifle you could mount anything on it, including a bipod and an ammo sleeve. Same goes for the “tactical” stock; it’s just a matter of carving one to fit the Marlin’s tang.

And you betcha, with a stronger and thicker barrel the Marlin can handle red hot .45-70 ammo, the best of which will duplicate the classic .375 H&H load (300gr of bullet at 2600fps). And if you jack the weight up to more than 12 pounds, then that load is actually going to be fun to shoot. In a 7 pound stock rifle that kind of whack might break your shoulder bone, and it will blow up a stock Marlin (and your face and hands along with it, so don’t try this at home, or anywhere else!).

But a better point blank range than the modern 5.56? That’s debatable. The .458 Barnes copper spitzers are pretty aerodynamic bullets, but the “big” modern 5.56 has a 500fps advantage. You’d have to run the numbers or do some field work to see just how “comparable” the two loads are.

And I have my doubts about the “designated marksman”. In civvie-speaker, that’s a sniper. To me that implies a blueprinted bolt gun, regardless of cartridge. It’s fast enough, and there are so many potent cartridges that will do the job just as well at equal or longer ranges.

As much as I love the old horse killer, I have real doubts whether any incarnation of a .45-70 would cut the mustard as a real tactical rifle. But it’s fun to daydream about! Tactical cowboys, yee ha! Sure, now try putting that fug ugly stick in your saddle scabbard without the horse tipping over.

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Sunday - June 26, 2011

Double Trouble

UPDATE, Christmas Day 2011:

It has come to my attention, from direct contact with friends of Brooks Papineau, that the jihad angle of this story may be false. Everyone in the news media based their stories on one report released by the Sheriff’s office. A little bit of internet research shows that the man was given a Christian burial and is not remembered as a convert to jizzlam AT ALL.

Brooks Lawrence Papineau of Key Center, WA, born May 10, 1957, passed away unexpectedly June 15, 2011, at the age of 54.

Brooks was a Kitsap Peninsula native who graduated from West Bremerton High in 1975. Brooks served his country two years in the Army National Guard and five years in the Coast Guard. He worked at the U.S. Postal Service for the past 27 years.

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Funeral Mass will be held at Our Lady Star of the Sea Catholic Church

I have had a lengthy email conversation with one of his friends, going back and forth several times, and that has sown the seeds of doubt. It is just as likely that the “he had a koran and was converting” is not only a misstatement but an outright lie. A veteran, a postman, and a gun collector? On the West Coast? Heck, that sounds like the core thesis for another “rogue soldier - government trained killer - goes on killing frenzy” storyline for an NCIS episode on TV. I am making no accusations: I am merely saying that the Sudden Jihad Syndrome meme that went viral in the press and across the internet could be not just accidentally false, but deliberately false. And if it was deliberate, then the question you have to ask yourself is WHY. Why would someone make such a statement ... in a part of the country where they spit on disabled veterans during parades ... where we saw those “protesters” marching some years ago with their “We support the troops when they frag their officers” banner ... where half the cop shows on TV are filmed and written, and the “rogue soldier” theme gets used at least once a week by at least one of them? Ahem.

So let me make myself very clear here: the news stories IMPLIED jihadism. The guy’s friends say that’s BS. The man was given a Catholic funeral and burial. Will the RC church do such a thing for an actual convert? I don’t know, but I have my doubts. I have NO INFORMATION AT ALL that this was a “bad shoot” or that anti-military attitudes or anti-postal worker attitudes had anything to do with it. I just tossed those out there because they are not impossible, especially not in that corner of the nation ... though to be extra fair, it could be very wrong for me to paint Tacoma Washington with the brush that properly covers the Olympia Washington area. I’m not from there, I’ve never been there, but I know that certain parts of that state - see Sondra K’s blog, right? - are over-the-left-horizon nutso. So anything is possible.

For all I know, the statements about the man’s mental health, his driving record, and his drinking habits may also be wrong. As his friend has written, this entire story is based on ONE press release by the police.

I am waiting for more information from his friends that will help clarify this situation. It will never be a good situation; a man is dead. But there is no reason to support a false meme (or several of them), and the little I’ve found so far is enough to cast reasonable doubt on that. Not proof, but reasonable doubt ... against a misstatement/misunderstanding/malicious rumor/bit of emergency CYA perhaps. Welcome to the digital age; that’s about the best I can do right now. It’s not like we’ve never seen a smear campaign go on before. Herman Cain, Robert Bjork anyone?

If and when I get more information I will consider it and may edit out large parts of this story. Until such time it stands, but it would be irresponsible of me to not stridently point out that one, several, or nearly all the parts of this story may be wrong or false. Give the deceased a fair shake, because he can no longer speak for himself.

Merry Christmas.

Not sure how to title this one. Is it

Postal Worker Goes Jihadi?

Jihadi Goes Postal?

KEY PENINSULA, Wash.—A man who was fatally shot by Tacoma police during a traffic stop early Wednesday morning pointed a gun loaded with armor-piercing bullets at the officer who stopped him and was carrying a large amount of ammunition in his truck, the Tacoma Police Department said.

Wednesday afternoon, the Medical Examiner’s Office identified the man as Brooks Papineau of Gig Harbor. He died of a gunshot wound to the abdomen.

“The driver exited his vehicle armed with a gun, and the officer opened fire, striking the subject,” said Mark Fulghum of the Tacoma Police Department.

When police searched Papineau’s truck, they found a large amount of ammunition and additional ammunition magazines.They also said they found a Koran and several books on converting to Islam.

Police said Papineau went home sick from his job at the U.S. Postal Service at about 8 p.m. Tuesday.

Pierce County sheriff’s investigators say it appears the armed man who was killed by a Tacoma police officer during a traffic stop did not fire his handgun.

Spokesman Ed Troyer says the semi-automatic gun was loaded with bullets that can pierce body armor. More ammunition was found in the man’s pickup truck along with a sword, pepper spray, an English version of the Quran and book on the rights of non-Muslims in Muslim countries.

The man was identified by the medical examiner’s office as 54-year-old Brooks Papineau of Gig Harbor.

Troyer says he smelled of alcohol and had a history of drunken driving.

The officer who fired at Papineau is a seven year veteran of the Tacoma Police Department. She was not hurt in the confrontation. Pierce County Sheriff’s Detective Ed Troyer says investigators learned the driver lived in the area, had a history of drunk driving stops, and mental health issues.

So we’ve got a mental case postman with alcohol issues who appears to be a recent convert to islam. And we all know how extra motivated recent converts to anything are.

The good news is that the off duty cop stopped this drunk from doing who knows what, and reacted fast enough to a bad situation to save her own life.

I looked at more than two dozen articles on this incident, and the most I could find out was that he pulled a semi-automatic. Suicide by cop perhaps. But I could find out nothing about the “armor piercing ammunition”. No surprise there. Real armor piercing pistol ammo is damn rare stuff. The truth is that regular bullets shot from medium powered handguns will shoot right through the less expensive Level I police vests; Level II vests won’t always stop the higher powered handgun bullets. Low powered centerfire rifle bullets will also penetrate these vests, and bullets shot from any kind of hunting rifle more potent than great-grandpa’s .30-30 will go through any vest other than the top rated military models. And those might be defeated by actual high powered magnum rifles firing actual armor piercing bullets. No vest is truly bulletproof, because there are always bigger and stronger bullets. But your typical money saving Level I cop vest is only good for stopping bullets of .38 Special power or less, and while that’s better than no vest at all, it isn’t really much protection. So almost any bullet would be judged armor-piercing against a vest like that, and the media just can’t resist this kind of thing.

The koran in the car along with books about converting and about dhimitude is getting just about no attention, naturally. To the media, it’s no different than having a couple of those pamphlets the Jehovah’s Witness folks leave on your doorstep.

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Posted by Drew458

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Sunday - June 19, 2011

gun porn?

Northamptonshire.
Boughton House is the Montagu family home. Bought by Sir Edward Montagu, Lord Chief Justice to Henry VIII, in 1528, Boughton has been in the same family to this day. Lady Elizabeth Montagu, the Boughton heiress, married Henry, the 3rd Duke of Buccleuch, bringing the house and estate into the Buccleuch family. Extensions to the house in the 1690’s are based upon Louis XIV’s Versailles.

Here ya go Drew. A lifetime windows job. Have to restart by time you get to the end.

Known as the English Versailles, the house is stuffed with treasures as you’d expect.
However, there an oddity that I’d never head of.

Apparently they have a prototype machine gun that fired two types of bullets: round for Christians, square for Turks.

From 1718 ...

Go here for larger pix and info. A SQUARE BULLET

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Wednesday - June 15, 2011

Wisconsin Joins The Wave

Wisconsin Senate votes to legalize concealed carry

The Wisconsin Senate passed a bill Tuesday that would allow concealed weapons in the state Capitol and other public places, but not in police stations, courthouse and other specifically exempted locations.

The final vote was 25-8, with all 19 Republicans and six Democrats supporting it, and the other eight Democrats opposed.

Wisconsin would become the 49th state to legalize carrying hidden guns. Those who want to carry the weapons would have to obtain a permit.

Before the bill goes to Republican Gov. Scott Walker, who backs the measure, it must also pass the Assembly. That could happen later in the week.

Republicans said the measure will help people take control over their own safety, particularly since there are felons who obtain guns even though they’re not supposed to have them.

“This is about allowing law-abiding citizens to protect themselves,” said Rich Zipperer, R-Pewaukee.

Naturally the Dems are saying it won’t work, blah blah blah. But it seems they have gone silent on the “Wild West” angle, especially out there in the wild west.

Good for Wisconsin, which already allows permit free open carry.

The article is a little bit wrong on the practical end of things. While only 1 remaining state - Illinois - and Washington DC specifically outlaw concealed carry, several other states are “may issue” states, which in practice means that only special people - very rich, politically connected, or buddies with the local sheriff - get carry permits. The rest of the citizens can go scratch. Hawaii and New Jersey are two states that do this, California does it to some extent, and Maryland, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island have “may issue” on the books but don’t use it as much. New York is it’s own world, where even a permit to own a firearm is not valid in New York City, and carrying a concealed handgun is only legal when involved in certain activities specified by the permit applicant. Like hiking or jogging, which in theory can be done anywhere while wearing any kind of footwear other than pumps and dress shoes.

The bottom line is that “shall issue” or “unrestricted” CCW is the law of the land in at least 41 of the 50 states, and soon it will be 42. Many of these states have reciprocity agreements with other states, based on U.S. Constitution’s “full faith and credit” provision. Unfortunately, the federal government came up with their weasel worded (and not yet declared unconstitutional) Gun Free School Zone Act of 1995, which makes legal reciprocal carry in suburban and urban areas almost impossible. Not to be completely stymied by the feds, a good number of states are willing to issue in-state CCW permits to out of state residents that already hold CCW permits for the state they reside in. It’s a dirty game, but the Forces of Darkness are slowly losing.

A number of states have legalized open carry, which means a gun on your hip in a holster, just like the cops. And the police in some of those states are finally learning that such a thing is legal, although this is taking some time.

So the Second Amendment is doing pretty well in the USA. Everywhere except New Jersey and Illinois.

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an inventive way to remove a wart … oh boy … take a look at this.

To be or not to be. Funny tis the question cos to some this is rotflyao event.

I confess I’m trying to think of something, anything, that looks witty or clever or really funny. But I’m blank so maybe you guys can fill in the blanks.

Take a look at some of the comments left by folks at the link. Some funny one liners.

Security guard blasts off his own finger with a shotgun while trying to remove a WART!
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
Last updated at 3:20 PM on 15th June 2011

A security guard came up with a bizarre remedy to remove a wart - he shot off his finger with a shotgun.
Sean Murphy, 38, from Doncaster, had seen his GP repeatedly about the problem and also tried a variety of traditional ointments and creams.
But when the persistent wart refused to disappear, he opted for the firepower of a 12-bore Beretta he claimed he had found under a hedge a few months earlier.

His technique successfully removed the wart - along with most of the middle finger of his left hand.
And the solution also landed Murphy in court this week for illegal possession of a firearm.

After leaving Doncaster Magistrates’ Court with a suspended 16-week prison sentence, Murphy said: ‘I’m happy with that.
‘I know I could have gone to jail for up to 15 years for a firearms offence. My solicitor did a very good job. The best thing is that the wart has gone. It was giving me lot of trouble.’

Murphy was employed as a security officer at Markham Grange Nurseries in Doncaster at the time of the incident in March, but has since lost his job.
He had suffered with the irritating wart on the joint closest to the tip of his middle finger for more than five years.

He said he drank several pints of beer to build up his courage before carrying out the operation outside the caravan where he was living at the time.
He stretched out his left hand, pointing the end of the barrel at an angle to the offending wart, and used his other hand to hold the stock steady and pull the trigger.

But he was unable to hold the weapon firmly when it recoiled and pellets took off most of his finger. ‘I didn’t expect to lose my finger as well when I shot it but the gun recoiled and that was it,’ Murphy said.

‘The wart was gone and so was most of my finger. There was nothing left of it, so no chance of re-attaching it.’

Mr Murphy pleaded guilty to theft of the shotgun by finding, and possessing it without a valid firearms certificate.

The shotgun had been stolen in a 2009 burglary but Murphy told police he had found it under a hedge near his workplace earlier this year.

His lawyer, Richard Haigh, said Murphy ‘has been a victim of his own stupidity when domestic pressures got to him’.

Murphy was also ordered to complete 100 hours of unpaid community work and pay costs of £100.

Visit Alfred for lots more comments at the site.

Good job it wasn’t a genital wart.
- Alfred, UK,

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Monday - May 30, 2011

no gun and they’re just damn lucky elf & safety didn’t demand hard hats

Well ya know. There might be something to this. Of course, it’s pretty much only the criminally minded who might go to the trouble. But hey ... it’s better to be safe. Right? The problem is, people here ARE NOT SAFE! But lets not get into that again. I’m just a gun mad American who thinks there’s something wrong when the only folks who have guns are the bad guys. Where’s that leave the rest of us? Dead, I guess.

Shirt Race starter pistol confiscated by police

By Tom Jennings

A HISTORIC race in Bampton will go off with less of a bang this year after police confiscated the starting pistol.

The Original Great Shirt Race is run between the village’s pubs and is believed to date back centuries.

Traditionally, it was always started by firing a 12-bore shotgun into the air, but police stopped that practice in 2000.

The shotgun was replaced with a starting pistol but now Government legislation means this year’s event will start with an airhorn.

The pistol was confiscated from race starter John Buckingham over concerns it could be converted into a lethal weapon.

Mr Buckingham, 49, of Weald Street, said: “It’s taking away from the race. It’s always been started with a gun. And I think it’s going to be bad because people aren’t going to be able to hear it.”

Master of ceremonies Don Rouse said: “It’s heath and safety gone mad. When I was told we couldn’t use the starting pistol any more I couldn’t believe it. We are village people, we aren’t criminals.

“It wasn’t worth going down the route of getting another starting pistol. The law is forever changing.

“These events are getting harder and harder to organise, with health and safety.”

Police spokesman Adam Fisher said the pistol, an Olympic .380 BBM, was classified as a prohibited weapon because forensic tests showed it was “readily convertible” for criminal use.

He said the same model had been converted into a lethal weapon and used in a series of shootings, primarily in London.

In March 2010, a 17-year-old from Islington was convicted of the attempted murders of two people using a converted Olympic pistol.

Mr Fisher said: “It’s illegal for anyone to be in possession of one of these weapons without an appropriate licence.

“Following the reclassification, a programme of activity aimed to remove the Olympic .380 from circulation in the UK and an amnesty began in April last year.

“Mr Buckingham surrendered his gun in accordance with this amnesty and it was sent for destruction. “ The Original Great Shirt Race will take place this Saturday from 7pm. The race, which was revived in 1953, involves teams of two people racing around the village, one pushing the other in a ‘chariot’.

The pair have to visit all the village’s pubs and drink half a pint of ale at each.

H/T OXFORD MAIL

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Wednesday - May 11, 2011

Built To Last

One of a Million

Designed in the 50s and made out of this revolutionary stuff called Zytel, Remington’s Nylon 66 was a plastic rifle decades before plastic guns were cool. This one was a compact, super light little semi-automatic .22 that had a 14 shot magazine in the stock. What made it really cool was that most of the gun was made from plastic. The stocks, the receiver, the trigger, the trigger guard, most of the internal parts - all made from this rock hard stuff called Zytel, which was a Bakelite kind of plastic first cousin to nylon. The parts never wore, never gummed up, never froze together, and almost never even needed oiling. Only the barrel, the bolt, the receiver cover and a few springs were made from steel, while the magazine tube was made from brass. And the one pictured here, an Apache Black model, had chromed steel instead of blued carbon steel, for even more weatherproofing. It really was a last-forever little rifle. The design intended to save money made Remington a small fortune.

In the early 1950s, Remington Arms Co. did not have a mid-priced .22-cal. semi-automatic rifle. Management knew that there were three high-cost components of any sporting arm – the barrel, receiver and stock. Engineers analyzed each to see if any significant cost savings could be obtained. They soon concluded that barrels did not offer much opportunity for savings, so they focused on the receivers and stocks.

[ early 60s Remington ad copy ] “Nylon makes the action virtually jamproof (Key parts glide on ‘greaseless bearings’ of long-wearing nylon.) There’s actually no need for lubrication.

“The remarkable DuPont ‘Zytel’ nylon stock is not affected by freezing cold, soaking rain or rotting humidity. In fact, if the stock ever warps, cracks, chips, fades or peels, we’ll replace it for free.

“This is the 22 rifle trappers depend on from Hudson Bay to the Everglades. The only 22 that Alaskan fishermen find able to withstand the attacks of corrosive sea spray to protect their nets from marauding sea lions.”

Advertising hyperbole? Not really. It’s largely a statement of fact. Introduced in 1959 at a price of $49.95, the Model 66 was management’s solution to controlling the cost of the receiver and stock components of a mid-priced .22.

Remington at the time was owned by DuPont. Working with the DuPont Petrochemicals Department, Remington engineers under the supervision of Wayne Leek seized upon structural Zytel Nylon 101, part of the Nylon 66 family of plastics, as the solution to manufacturing a synthetic stock and receiver. Among its many qualities, Zytel Nylon was capable of being formed into any shape, was impervious to solvents, oils, mild acids, alkalis, fungus, rodents and insects, and was self-lubricating and dimensionally stable.

Remington made more than a million of them, from the 1959 until the mid 80s, and in all probability most of those are still shooting today. Well, I’d bet most are lost in the back of dad’s closet, got left behind at the summer cottage, or are sleeping away the decades up in the attic under some old clothes from the 60s. But they’d only need a little cleaning, and they’d be go to go again. They came in several colors, all of which had pre-PC names, like Mohawk Brown, Apache Black, and Seneca Green. Once Remington stopped making them they sold production rights to a Brazilian gun company, who made them until the late 80s, who then sold the rights to Magtech, who made their version until the mid 90s. So the rifle had what amounts to a 40 year production run.

The Nylon 66’s unusual construction material makes the rifle both sturdier and more resistant to weather than the typical .22 caliber rifle. Moreover, given the natural lubricity of nylon 66, there’s very little need to use oil on the gun’s working parts.

The great enemy of most semiautomatic .22 rimfire rifles is the gummy residue that accumulates after a few hundred rounds and eventually prevents the mechanism from moving. This gunk consists of messy and dirty-burning ammunition combining with gun oil. Because the Nylon 66 requires next to no oil (just a little on the receiver cover to forestall rust), the rifle stays clean longer.

Variation being the source of fresh sales, Remington also produced several similar rifles that used many of the same basic parts. There were two bolt action versions; a single shot and a repeater. There was a Nylon 77 version that took a detachable box magazine. And for a very short while there was even a lever action version, which owns the distinction of being the only lever action repeater that Remington ever built.

To allay market concerns that a plastic gun just wouldn’t hold up, or just wasn’t accurate, Remington hired exhibition shooter Tom Frye to make their case:

No greater tribute could be bestowed on any rifle than what it accomplished in the hands of Tom Frye, trick shooter and field representative for Remington. In 1959, to break Ad Topperwein’s world record of hitting 72,500, 2-1/2” wooden blocks thrown into the air, Frye used three Model 66’s to hit 100,004 wooden blocks out of 100,010 thrown. To do it, Frye shot 1,000 shots an hour, eight hours a day, for 13 consecutive days without one malfunction or misfire. That’s rimfire reliability!

What made this feat even more impressive was that the 3 rifles were only cleaned 5 times during the entire marathon. That’s about once every 135 boxes of ammo, which is probably nearly as many rounds as a normal .22 will ever be fired in it’s lifetime.

Nearly a decade later, I remember Remington still had ads in Boy’s Life (the Boy Scout magazine. Yes, gun ads in a magazine for children!!!) where you could write in and they’d send you one of the blocks, with a genuine bullet hole - and bullet!! - still in it. Oh, I wanted one so bad. But my mother realized it would become just another bit of clutter and result in even more junk mail, and she refused to waste a 5¢ stamp on it. I wonder how many of those blocks are still around today? I wonder how many of those rifles are still around today? I saw one in a picture posted at Vilmar’s, and I know my wife’s cousin has one in his gun safe, and I quickly found out today that there is a group that collects them, and they have at least one online forum.

The Nylon 66 was a great little rifle, decades ahead of its time. Wish I had one.

sources
http://www.americanrifleman.org/ArticlePage.aspx?cid=1&id=1795
http://www.chuckhawks.com/rem_nylon_rifles.htm
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_8_45/ai_55605722/?tag=mantle_skin;content
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_2_54/ai_n21175828/
http://www.nylonrifles.com/wp/

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Friday - May 06, 2011

Should’ve knocked first

A few weeks ago there were a couple of daytime break ins in some of the condo parks around here. Bold as brass the burglars went right in to several units in the middle of the afternoon and stole stuff. They got away clean, no witnesses, no leads. I don’t know if upstairs units were hit, or just downstairs ones.

There aren’t many people around here in the daytime. Even the retired folks are usually out and about, and everyone else has a job to go to. Well, except me.

We’ve got the computer set up in the back bedroom, and our upstairs unit has a covered balcony area in the back, off the bedroom, above a sort of breezeway between the sides of the two adjoining lower units. Since the back of our building is at the base of a very steep little hill, visibility into that little “canyon” is quite limited. Access to the balcony is through glass sliding doors that open from the right. We’ve got a big thick drapery across them, and then a thinner curtain under that, so that we can let light in without giving up our sense of privacy.

So I’m sitting here blogging and I hear a clang, followed by the unmistakable sound of an extension ladder opening up, and then another clang. I get up, pull the drape aside, and see through the sheer curtain the silhouette of a man climbing over the railing with a medium size L shaped object in his hand. Looks like a gun. WTH?

With hardly a conscious thought I was digging through the drawer where my wife keeps her .45. And it wasn’t there. !!! So in two steps I had my Ruger out of it’s box and a speed strip whipped across the cylinder. And I actually checked to make sure I had my pants on. Not that I’m in the habit of blogging in the buff or even pantsless, I just had that make sure you’re not naked thought flash across my brain, so I checked. Pistol in hoodie pocket by my right hand, I opened the slider with my left. And found the condo association maintenance man. With a cordless electric drill set up as a nut driver.

“What are you doing on my balcony?”

“I’m putting your railing back on.”

“What? It wasn’t off an hour ago?”

“I took it down to repaint the wood, so now I’m putting it back.” (we have iron railings with a 2x6 board for a top piece. Classy, right?)

“Oh. OK. You know, what with those burglaries the other week, maybe it would have been a smart idea to have knocked first.”

“Yeah, probably, but I don’t usually bother because there’s never anybody home during the day.”

“Exactly how those units got robbed. Alright, do what you have to do.”

I don’t think it took 10 seconds from when I heard the ladder clank against the railing to when I opened the slider. The Ruger is back in it’s locked case, safely unloaded, in a secure child-proof area (in case anyone from the government is reading this), the newly painted railing is back in place and the maintenance guy and his ladder are gone. So now I’m getting the shakes and feeling a little light headed. And I’m realizing I was here at the computer the whole time, and I never heard him take the railing off! I think I’ll see if I can’t find better quality locks for the sliders. Maybe a couple of lengths of broom handle to lay in the track too.

not completely concealed, and it prints through like mad
damn, where did those grease spots come from?

I stood there at the slider talking with the guy for a couple minutes. I didn’t say anything and he didn’t say anything, but it would be kind of hard not to notice, doncha think? I bet that next time he will knock first.

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Tuesday - May 03, 2011

Bad Gun Pr0n

Doing It Wrong

Here’s a link to a video CVA put up about how to NOT properly load your muzzleloader. Watch guns explode, then watch them explode again in sort-of-slow-motion. Think about what would be left of your body if this happened in your arms. Not much. Be warned, then be smart from now on.

I have no idea why they chose to use Hodgdon HS-6 as their demo smokeless powder. It isn’t even close to the burning rate you’d use if you happened to own a Savage 10ML, one of the very few muzzleloading rifles built to be used with smokeless powder. HS-6 is way too fast. It’s a good powder for .38+P loads with lighter bullets, and is an OK powder for .45 ACP. But it is only a top choice for .357 and .44 Magnum loads that use light bullets and are intended for very short barrels. Too much pressure too fast, and not even gas generated. HS-6 is a shotgun powder and that’s about it. So they probably chose it precisely because it was completely wrong, even though many other powders exist that are much faster, and many other powders that are much slower would be “safer”. Perhaps HS-6 is at the really fast end of “possible choices” for muzzleloaders if you aren’t very smart? Whatever. I don’t have one of these rifles, but if I owned the Savage 10ML I’d think IMR3031 or IMR4198 would be a safe choice; you’re making an end-fed .45-70, kind of. Don’t take my word for it, go look it up.

CVA uses this HS-6 powder in 3 rifles not designed for smokeless powder, and drops a heavy black powder charge weight’s worth down the barrel (about the same weight of [much much slower burning] powder you’d use in an elephant gun), and then makes a barrel obstruction. BOOM, shredded gun. No kidding. It’s suicidal. Death by shrapnel. Lesson: know your powders and charge amounts, load your own gun, and make sure it isn’t loaded before you load it.

The video ran jerkily for me, with a lot of drop outs and freeze frames, so I snagged the video with the Download Helper add-on, and then ran the .flv file from my desktop with the Moyea FLV player (both are free apps). It ran just fine. So I blame low bandwidth.

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Thursday - April 21, 2011

CCW can be taken too far

Texas 1st Grader Pops A Cap At Lunchtime

No, seriously. I did a snarky title and a snarky header. A little kid in Texas brought a gun to school. It “fell” out of his pocket and “accidentally discharged”. 3 children are wounded from one bullet. I’m just mocking on the moonbats by preempting their take on things. Must have been some cheap POS gun too. None of mine will go off by dropping, or even if you hit them with a hammer. Why was a little kid carrying a piece?? I have no idea. For protection. Because he was being violently bullied? Because it’s racist? I have no idea. Let’s see if there will be a follow up on this story.

‘’I knew it was a gun because a gun goes ‘pow’ ‘’
- Jarneshia Broussard, age 5

A class of kindergarten students were just sitting down in a cafeteria at Betsy Ross Elementary School when a loaded pistol tumbled out of the pocket of a six-year-old boy and discharged, injuring him and two other children, school officials said.

The children’s injuries were not life threatening and they were taken by ambulance to a nearby hospital, while a team of school counsellors tried to calm the traumatised pupils and frantic parents rushed to the school in central Houston to pick up their children.

Police said it remained unclear how the boy obtained the weapon, or who owns it. Only one shot was fired.

School officials said the boy who took the gun to school suffered an injury to his leg that may have been caused by a bullet. The other two children, a boy and a girl, both five, appeared to have been hit by flying debris or shrapnel. None was identified.

The shooting happened at about 10.35am on Monday as the kinder pupils were taking their seats in the cafeteria and some older children were filing in, chief elementary schools officer for the Houston Independent School District, Sam Sarabia said.

He said the gun fell from the boy’s pocket as he sat down to eat.

Jarneshia Broussard, 5, said she was sitting at the same table as the boy who brought the gun.
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‘’I knew it was a gun because a gun goes ‘pow’,’’ Jarneshia told a local newspaper. ‘’I got really scared.’’
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The girl’s grandmother, Moneek Burleson, said: ‘’This is a serious problem and it needs to stop.’’

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Wednesday - April 20, 2011

Peiper’s First Gun Porn Post

And it may well be his last, since everything, and I mean everything, will be downhill from here. Well done old chum. All I did was type in the words and paste in the links and pictures.

World’s Costliest Rifle

VO Gun & Rifle Maker Sweden is a small family company founded 1977 by Mr Master Gunsmith Viggo Olsson. With a passion for hunting rifles and craftsmanship he wanted to realize his dream of building the worlds most exclusive hand made rifles for hunting and collection.

Now his dream has come true. Together with his son Gunsmith Ulf and carefully selected staff he is now building the worlds most exclusive hunting rifles, all by hand.

VO Gun & Rifle Maker Sweden delivers Limited Editions, Exclusive Collections and Tailor Made Rifles to royalties and celebrities all over the world.

That’s the lead in from the company website. They are not kidding one little bit. The father and son company sells to kings, crown princes, and Arab oil sheiks with bottomless pockets. You know what they say about if you have to ask the price? I don’t want to tell you, because you can not afford these. Your house is probably worth less than even one of their regular guns costs, if they made something as mundane as a regular gun. They do not. Everything they create is a work of functional art, a true masterpiece in the finest wood and metal.

The action is essentially a Mauser, but one updated and improved, tuned and polished to the utmost degree, and then embellished with museum grade engraving. The high figure walnut stocks are selected from specific trees all over Europe, then carefully felled and air dried for 3 or 4 years before the blanks are even cut. The stocks are carved by hand. It takes 5 weeks to get the oil finish just so, and then the checkering is cut. By hand, by a master of that skill, without any shortcuts or safety lines. Each rifle comes with at least 2 barrels and grain matched fore stocks, and connects to the main stock via a patented mechanism. The set gets a handmade leather case, which in turn gets it’s own custom made outer case. This is as good as it gets. Art that goes bang.

Their latest creation is also their best creation. Every VO Vapen rifle is entirely handmade, but the Falcon Edition raises the bar significantly. It is VO’s first Mannlicher style full stocked effort, and the precision lapped and crowned barrels are made from fully modern Damascus steel. Damascus steel barrels are made by folding layers and layers of metal together and then hammer welding them into a barrel by twisting lengths of the layers into a spiral around a central form and then heating and beating until a single solid piece emerges. This is the way it used to be done, back when steel was a very rare thing that only came in small amounts. But those barrels were as weak as they were beautiful, because all that hammer welding was quite uneven when done by hand. Such rifle barrels are generally only safe to use with the milder black powder cartridges. Modern Damascus steel is made from the very best steels available, and is hammered together under intense heat and pressure by giant industrial machines of exceptional strength and precision. The barrels have no voids or weak spots, and can safely handle even the highest pressure modern cartridges. VO takes those barrels and then makes them both accurate and beautiful.

The Falcon rifle, the first in an edition that will be limited to five, carries far less engraving than you might think. The tapered octagonal barrels are plain, because it would be crass to put engraving on the organic patterns formed by the Damascus steel. The engraving is all free form artwork, with a falcon motif on the pistol grip cap, the bolt shroud, and the receiver. Perhaps the trigger guard as well. The bolt handle continues the motif and adds a slightly whimsical touch; it has been hand carved and gold plated to be the falcon’s leg and talons grasping the ball end.

The use of Damascus steel and engraving featuring Peregrine and Saker falcons is no coincidence. We know where Damascus is. The falcon is the symbol of the Royal House of Saud. This rifle, and probably the whole set, will be purchased by someone in the Saudi royal family. VO Vapen does a lot of work for the Arabs, doing his best to bring back to Sweden as much oil money as he can. Several of his other rifles feature engraved portraits of this sheik or that, and he even has one rifle that is an ode to a particular mosque. That rifle is another thing of beauty, incorporating in it’s embellishments several of the grand architectural and decorative features of the building itself. These rifles take months and months to build, so the sale of just one of them pays the salaries for the whole workshop. Good for them. Sell the Arabs fancy toys, and sell more toys to the insanely rich. I admire that profit taking drive almost as much as I admire VO Vaden’s ability to turn serious mechanical machinery into serious works of art.

Oh, Ok, I’ll tell. The rifle costs £511,000. That’s $820,000, give or take a shilling or two. That makes it the most expensive new rifle ever made.

You can read a little bit more about it and admire more pretty pictures here, and here, and even read the terse and nearly rude article at the Daily Mail here.

But for those who can truly appreciate firearms like this, who love fine wood and extraordinary engraving, you must visit VO Vapen’s web page and spend a marvelous half hour or so exploring. The web site is as elegant and as well made as their firearms. Walnut lovers be warned though: the figures you will see there are nearly beyond your imagination. Put it this way: this next pic is merely Vapen’s background image:

the actual rifles are better.

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Thursday - April 07, 2011

Dumb Gun “Knowledge”

I have no idea why this was on CNN’s news page today. It’s a link to a story at Cracked from 10 months ago about the false ideas Hollywood spreads about firearms. As if you didn’t already know. Just for gits and shiggles I guess.

The bit about silencers is good, but it could use a lot more detail. They do mostly tell you the truth: there is no such thing as a silencer. In other parts of the world where such things are legal, even required for hunting in many countries, the devices are called suppressors. Because that’s all they do. They abate a noise loud enough to instantly damage your hearing down to a noise only loud enough to damage your hearing if you’re exposed to it for an extended length of time, like a whole 2 seconds. Guns are loud; wear double ear protection when you go shooting.

There is more to the gun loudness issue than just the boom that the gunpowder makes. Any bullet that travels faster than 1100 feet per second - and most do - is flying faster than the speed of sound, and that means it creates a sonic boom. Even though bullets themselves are relatively small, the noise of their passage is significant. This is why real “silenced” guns shoot slow bullets, around 950fps. And the only way to get any kind of power with a slow bullet is to use a really heavy bullet. Unfortunately heavy bullets at really low velocities aren’t usually fully stabilized, so accuracy suffers. Bottom line is that a truly silent firearm isn’t going to be accurate enough or powerful enough to get the job done at any kind of realistic range. 75 yards, maybe 100, and that’s really pushing the envelope.

Why don’t silencers work? It’s a simple matter of volume. Hur hur hur Drew, good one. No, seriously, it is. Not the “turn down the volume” kind, the “cubic feet of air” kind. To be effective they have to contain all the gas that comes out of the end of the gun and then release it to the atmosphere slowly enough so that there is not pressure wave. That’s the bang sound; it’s the air rushing back in to fill the volume displaced by the expanding powder gases as they leave the end of the barrel. It’s a small thunderclap.

Here’s the math in a simple example. (Sorry Rich, sometimes math is necessary)

The 9mm Parabellum ( 9x19 NATO ) is a very popular cartridge the world over. We’ll use this one for the example. Common ammunition generates about 35,000psi inside the gun barrel’s chamber, and we’ll use a barrel 5” long, which is pretty typical for a full size pistol. Granted that you’ll want to actually use a fully locked breech gun, like the single shot T/C Encore. “silencers” don’t work for jack on revolvers, because they’re open at the back end, but I digress. Stay focused Drew!

Ok, to actually silence a firearm you have to capture all the gas that comes out the end of the gun. Other than using a subsonic bullet, that’s all there is to it.

Typical groove diameter for a 9mm pistol barrel is .355”. With a 5” barrel this means that the volume of the barrel is 3.14159 * (.355/2)² * 5 = 0.49489 in³. Call it half a cubic inch.

Standard atmospheric pressure is 14.7lb/in². 35,000 ÷ 14.7 = 2380.952; 2380.952 * 0.49489 = 1178.33. 1178.33^1/3 = 10.56. This means that the half cubic inch of gas under pressure in the gun is actually 2/3 of a cubic foot at regular air pressure. No wonder it goes bang.

To capture that much gas, you need a vacuum box attached to the end of the barrel. Since no vacuum is perfect, you want to design it a little oversize ... so you’d need an airtight box of about a cubic foot to do the job. You want to handle the heat as well; gunpowder burns at a temperature higher than that needed to melt steel. Good old PV=NRT takes care of most of that; as the gas expands it cools off. But build the vacuum chamber a bit bigger than math requires just to be on the side of certainty. Naturally you’d stick in all those nifty internal baffles to deflect the ejecta blast and to stifle the muzzle flash. And you’d need to figure out the right kind of membrane for both ends that the bullet could pierce without impacting accuracy too much. Maybe Mylar film would work. And you’d need an evacuation valve so you could pump out the air and hold the vacuum. And all of this would be good for exactly ... one shot.

a cubic foot baffled vacuum box might actually be silent
design is to scale

Not what I’d call a practical size. And this is for a puny little pistol. A hunting rifle runs at double that pressure so it would require a much bigger chamber; something about the size of a garbage can ought to do it.

(picture of T/C Encore pistol borrowed from The Firearm Blog)

So follow the math and follow the link, and take home today’s lesson: Hollywood feeds you lies about guns. About everything else too, but that’s another lifetime’s worth of posts.

Ok, that’s enough school for one day.

PS - I “cheated” See the first comment and figure out where I went wrong. UPDATED WITH MY ANSWER AND REBUTTAL

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I realized that I “cheated” because I calculated the volume of a vacuum silencer based on the maximum chamber pressure of the cartridge. By the time the bullet has traveled even 5” to the end of the barrel, the pressure inside the barrel is many times less. PV=NRT. Pressure X Volume = two constants I can’t remember X Temperature. Here’s a graph:

On firing, the cartridge reaches maximum chamber pressure when the bullet has only traveled a very short distance. That means a very small volume at high pressure (and temperature!). 5” away, when the bullet leaves the barrel, pressure is down to “only” 1400psi or thereabouts, and the volume is much greater. A bullet going down a barrel is very much like the piston in an engine going down it’s cylinder. So when the bullet exits the barrel we have a volume of gas equal to the volume of the barrel times the pressure of the gas at that point. This is much much less gas than the volume of the barrel times the maximum pressure achieved. So it wasn’t deliberate cheating, it was me just rushing along and not thinking things through.

What I tried to create was an actual silencer. Real silence. One that you could use to shoot a bullet so that it made no noise at all. No bang, no pop, no “foop” like on TV. The problem is that my idea can only AT BEST eliminate the noise of the firing. The bullet itself makes noise, as this famous graph points out:

The red line is about the maximum speed you want the bullet to go. Any faster and it gets loud.

I am certainly not an expert on silencer design. I’ve read no more than a dozen papers on them, and visited perhaps that many web sites. As far as I can tell mine is the only vacuum chamber design out there, because it just isn’t at all practical. But I was reaching for absolute silence.

Reader P. Beck provides links and points out significant efforts across the gun history time line. None of them though sought perfect silence. The best you can get is a gun that makes no more sound than the background noise, which is usually somewhere in the 75dB range or a bit louder. Keeping the bang under 95dB is quiet enough to not panic the neighbors. Under 105dB outdoors will hardly be noticed by people even 50 yards away. Well, they might notice, but they won’t assume gun fire. This is why a silenced firearm uses subsonic bullets, to add as little noise to the mix as possible.

Follow P’s link to the De Lisle carbine. This is about as good as it can get. They made a special gun that used a big slow bullet and used a huge suppressor with a great big expansion chamber. My bet is that they didn’t use regular military .45 ACP ammunition, even though they used regular military 230gr .45 ACP bullets and created nearly standard velocity. In a strong firearm you can use a slight charge of very fast gun powder, like 3.6gr Hodgdon Clays, to produce that kind of low velocity without generating much gas. It’s a sharp quick kick instead of a long slow push, and it creates more chamber pressure than normal, but you get the required velocity with very little pressure at the muzzle. And low muzzle pressure means less bang. Always. The Wiki article says the gun was effective to 200 yards with a maximum range of 400 yards. I doubt the 400 yards. A typical .451” 230gr FMJ RN bullet fired at the stated 850fps velocity will be slogging along at only 640fps at 400 yards, which may not be fast enough to even shoot through a cotton shirt, much less into the skin behind that shirt. Then again, maybe it is. I don’t have that answer but it wouldn’t be hard to find experimentally with some cloth, some ballistic gelatin, and an episode of Myth Busters. Plus the trajectory and the wind deflection at that range are just crazy. Using a very generous 10” vital height, which is about all you can get away with when people are your target (aim at the base of the neck, and if the bullet hits 10” high you still hit them in the head, and if the bullet hits 10” low you still hit them in the upper chest) gives this round a point blank range (the maximum distance you can aim and shoot and be assured of a hit without trying to figure out the range to the target) of only 150 yards. This means a 126 yard zero, and from there out to 200 yards your bullet has dropped almost 42” and been pushed 10” sideways by a gentle breeze. At 400 yards it’s much worse.

Ok, so now I’ll paste in my response to P. Beck. Thanks for giving me an interesting morning writing all this stuff out and thinking about it. Feel free to rebut as much as you want.

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All of the following is in response to P. Beck’s comments. This is not done to silence him (hur hur) but to enable a discussion.

“A 240 grain Sierra Match-King, launched at a m.v. of 980 fps, loses about 100 fps per 100 meters of travel and has more energy at 100 meters than a .44 magnum does at the muzzle.”

Since you didn’t mention caliber, but the guns in some of the links you provided are .308, I’ll have to assume that’s the one you’re talking about. This is a superb target bullet, with a BC of .712 - that means it is really aerodynamic - because it is very pointy and quite long and heavy for it’s diameter. My trajectory software shows that when shot at the subsonic speed of only 980fps it only slows down 27fps in the first 100 yards, and 24fps in the next 100 yards. BC - ballistic coefficient - is dynamic with respect to velocity. So is bullet drag. The faster you shoot a bullet, the faster it slows down, even though the highly aerodynamic ones slow down relatively less. Once you get below the speed of sound aerodynamics matters less and less; the slower you shoot a bullet the slower it slows down, and at the very slow end of things the shape doesn’t matter at all. But if you shot that same bullet at 3000fps, which is a realistic velocity for a serious magnum rifle cartridge, it would slow down 137fps in the first 100 yards. Fire it at about 2500fps and you do get the 100fps loss you suggested.

The above paragraph is stuff P. already knows, I just put it in for everyone else. But he is off a bit with the .44 Magnum comparison. The .44 Magnum often shoots bullets of the exact same weight, 240 grains, (larger .429” diameter though) but even in a pistol it pushes them out of the muzzle at 1300fps or faster. In a good rifle with hot ammo you can get nearly 2000fps. Since bullet energy is 1/2MV^2, the .44 Magnum has far more muzzle energy than this MK bullet fired at 980fps has at any range. I’ll cut P. a break - the .44 Special is a very similar but lesser pistol cartridge, and it shoots the same bullet at only about 900fps, which gives it less muzzle energy than this MK bullet has at even 300 yards.

“So. Heavy subsonic rounds. Trajectory like a rainbow? Yes. Unstable? No. ”

True, but only if you “cheat” a bit to assure stability. You need a custom built gun.

Let’s drag out the old Greenhill formula calculator, which is used to determine the minimum necessary rifling twist needed to stabilize projectiles flying in the air. P. probably has one on his PC like I do, and the rest of you can Google one up in a flash. There are thousands of them out there.

Just like throwing a football properly, you need to spin bullets around their longitudinal axis to keep them pointed in the proper direction. If they don’t spin enough they will wobble, and if they wobble they will not be accurate. The longer a bullet is for it’s diameter, the more it needs to be spun to be stable. This is what the rifling in the barrel of a gun does. It imparts a constant amount of spin to a bullet, one turn in a certain distance. Obviously this means that the faster the bullet travels, the faster it is spinning - often at 200-300,000rpm! - but the rate of spin doesn’t change. For every foot the bullet travels, it spins around a certain amount, regardless of it’s velocity.

Back to Greenhill. The .308 240 grain Sierra Match King is 1.6 inches long. That’s almost twice as long as the .308 150 grain Sierra SPRN (.895") which is a common woods hunting bullet in that caliber. Greenhill tells me that the MK bullet needs a 1:8 twist barrel to be stable at velocity under 2800fps and one of 1:10 for velocities over 2800fps, whereas the SPRN needs a 1:15 twist barrel for the low velocities and one with 1:19 for the high velocities. The vast majority of rifles use a twist rate of 1:9 or slower (click for examples), especially in the larger calibers, so in a normal rifle the MK bullet is not going to be stable. Sorry. It won’t even be stable in a regular .308 match barrel, which is usually a 1:10 or 1:12 twist. The same situation applies to every other bullet that is grossly heavy or super long for it’s caliber. Look what happened when the Army went to that heavy 70gr bullet for the 5.56 NATO. They had to rebarrel all their rifles with a 1:7 tube because that “big” bullet just wasn’t accurate in the slower twist that was perfectly fine for the older 55gr bullets. Hunters have had accuracy trouble with some of the Barnes copper bullets; copper is much less dense than lead, so an equal weight copper bullet is much longer than it’s lead counterpart, and therefore needs considerably faster rifling to be stable.

But you’d be silly not to use a custom barrel for a project like this one, so you can order one of those with whatever twist rate you specify. There is nothing wrong with spinning a bullet faster than the minimum amount necessary, but if you use too fast a rifling twist rate and shoot them at too high a velocity they will shred. Too much RPM just tears them apart because the metal isn’t strong enough, although copper bullets are much stronger than lead ones. So your custom fast twist barrel might just not work at all when you use smaller normal high velocity bullets in it. Everything’s a trade off.

Furthermore, I don’t think Greenhill goes far enough because it isn’t set up to go slow enough. I think there is a minimum RPM that a given bullet needs to be stable at any velocity. Come on, if you throw the thing, it will tumble. If you throw it like a football, it will tumble less, but the natural front to back imbalance of a pointed bullet will cause it to tumble regardless. Your custom barrel needed for those extra long bullets might have to have an even faster rifling twist to ensure stability at really low velocities.

I have made nearly silent ammunition for my .45-70. You take a big lead bullet, 400gr, and use 2 or 3 grains of Bullseye or Clays. It spits out the barrel at 500fps or less, and goes “foop”. The bullets tumble after 60 yards or so. A .45-70 usually has 1:20 rifling, which is fast enough for nearly all the blunt short bullets that rifle usually uses. So there is a minimum RPM and it’s not connected to velocity. Except that in a rifled barrel, it always is. Maybe you can locate a velocity dependent version of the Greenhill formula.

Ok, that addresses the stability issue.

On to trajectory and the ever fearsome ”rainbow”. Gravity is a constant. If you could take two bullets and set things up so that you shot one out of a level rifle at the same instant in time that you just let go of the other bullet right next to the barrel, both bullets would hit the ground at the same time, even if the one from the gun hit the ground 2000 yards away. So, the faster a bullet travels, the further it will go in a given slice of time, but if fired horizontally it will drop the same distance in that time slice as anything else. Slow bullets thus drop more relative to their horizontal distance traveled than do fast ones. This is what trajectory is all about. It’s always a rainbow curve: you have to shoot the bullet UP to get it to come DOWN on the target. The advantage of faster bullets is that they flatten out the rainbow quite a bit. The further away the target is and the slower the bullet is fired at and the less aerodynamic the bullet is, the steeper the rainbow curve of the bullet’s flight path will be when it hits the target. Hey, don’t forget that wind will have it’s say here as well. Google up that US Army test at Sandy Hook NJ from the late 19th century called “the .45-70 at two miles”. In that test, at such extreme ranges, the bullets were hitting the target nearly vertically.

What all this means is that to hit a target at a longer range with a slower bullet, you need to know exactly how far away the target is. Using P’s bullet and muzzle velocity as an example, the trajectory difference between 800 and 825 yards is more than the height of almost all men (6’ 6.5"), even though the bullet itself might still have enough energy to kill (350 lb/ft) at that range. His bullet takes almost 2 3/4 seconds to get to that 825 yard target, and our 10mph right angle gentle breeze is going to push the bullet more than 4 feet to the side. And I’ll be generous and ignore the difficulties involved in estimating how much he’ll have to lead his target if it’s walking along. So my point is that to hit anything at distance you are going to have to be really, really, REALLY good at range estimation: at 800 yards a 1% error will have the bullet strike 15” high or low, which is more than enough to cause a clean miss or to turn a kill shot into a minor wounding shot. Those nifty laser range finders you can buy are that accurate at best. Maybe the military has better gear, but I don’t think we can get our hands on it.

Lacking power? No.

Yes, you can kill people by throwing big rocks at them. There is a minimum velocity necessary for any bullet that allows it to penetrate. Each bullet shape will have it’s own number. My guess is that the pointier ones can penetrate at lower speeds than the blunter ones can, and I’d further a second guess that the heavier ones of a given shape and diameter can penetrate at lower speeds than the lighter ones of the same general shape and diameter. If a bullet doesn’t penetrate then it’s effect is similar to getting hit with a rock. A very small rock, because, hey, that’s all that bullets really are anyway, right? The “good news” is that people are really lousy animals, so a bullet that’s barely good enough to kill rabbits with is more than enough to kill people with. The 1000 lb/ft energy requirement some states have for deer hunting is far more than what’s needed for us. I don’t know what the human minimum is, but a wise hunter always uses more than what is minimally required.
In the Sandy Hook test I mentioned earlier, the bullets falling on the target at 2 miles range still had the power to penetrate several thicknesses of wood. But these were massive bullets, 500 grains of lead. And their trajectory was so extreme that it’s likely that gravity significantly increased their velocity as they fell downwards.

Inaccurate? Definitely not. “...one officer. before witnesses, shot the head off of a duck swimming on a nearby lake at ~~700 yards~~.” 200 yards.

This is an interesting statement. Given that a duck’s head is about an inch and a half tall, and about the same length excluding the beak, what we’re talking about here is accuracy within 3/4 MOA.

MOA is “minute of angle”, a term used to describe the precision - the repeatability - of the accuracy of a firearm. If you shoot 10 rounds at a distant small target, how closely together do the bullets group on the target? That’s precision. Generally, 1 inch at 100 yards is considered to be a real world Minute of Angle, though scientifically it’s a tiny bit different from that. Think of the bullets flying from the gun to the target, with whatever their amount of dispersion is, and you’ll quickly realize that a cone shape covers that dispersion. Granted, when you add the “rainbow” arc of the trajectory into the discussion the cone shape becomes bent, like one of those Bugles brand snack chips. But a cone still covers it, and if you remember your triangle math, you know that the longer the cone is, the wider the large end becomes, even though the angle between the sides stays the same. This means that while 1 MOA at 100 yards is 1”, 1 MOA at 200 yards is 2”, 3” at 300, etc. A firearm that can shoot groups of 1 MOA is more than just accurate, it is nearly the holy grail of firearms design. These guns exist, and modern precision manufacture has made them almost common, but it takes highly uncommon shooting skills to be able to shoot that well.

To hit that duck’s head more than just once, the shooter would have had to shoot groups at least as tight as 3/4 MOA. This is the kind of precision shooting that wins competitions between world class experts shooting off the bench with those machine-like rifles in the sport of benchrest. Shooting offhand with a normal rifle it is flat out miraculous. Let’s not forget that bullets are subject to wind deflection, barrel vibration during firing, bits of dust in the air that they contact while flying, and even their own slight internal instability caused by the most minute variations in the density of the metal alloys that they are made from, etc.

The slower a bullet travels, the more time it takes to get to the target, and the more time wind has to push it around. A gentle breeze of only 10mph is air moving at 14.6fps; if a bullet takes only 0.10 seconds to reach the target, and that wind is blowing at perfect right angles to the target, the breeze will push it to the side 17 1/2 inches. If the bullet is shooting directly into the wind it will slow down more than it would in dead air, and drop more. If the wind is directly behind the bullet it won’t slow down as much as expected, drop less, and hit high. That takes care of just 4 of the 360 angles; any of the other directions will be a “rise over the run” calculation like in Physics 1. And all of this assumes that the breeze is constant, which it never really is. Wind gusts, all the time.

What I’m saying here is that hitting that duck was pure luck, combined with excellent shooter skill a) at reading the wind and b) with extreme familiarity with the trajectory of that particular firearm and it’s bullet. Great shot, but even David Tubb would have a helluva time doing it twice. (Mr. Tubb is just about the greatest marksman on earth)

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Tuesday - March 29, 2011

Legal Simulation

As of today, it’s legal. Tomorrow, who can say?

Simulated Full Auto AR-15
No Permit, No Class III Required

The concept of bump fire has been around a long time. Most semi-auto rifles and shotguns can be held loosely against the shoulder, with the trigger finger held stiffly and the trigger hand hardly touching the stock, and the off hand pulling the fore end firmly forward. Pull your trigger hand back just a bit and the gun goes off, and the combination of continued forward pull and the recoil impulse makes it fire again. Bam bam bam bam. Simulated full auto fire. The problem is that you can’t hit diddly do this way. Certainly not anything further than 50 feet away. Well, it seems that not only has a retired military fellow figured out a solution, he’s brought the product to market with full ATF approval.

The ATF defines a machine gun - I’m paraphrasing here, m’kay? - as a firearm with some kind of mechanical device or accessory that causes the next shot to fire without any input from the shooter. That’s why that famous piece of string for the M1 was classified as a machine gun, and it’s also why those trigger crank units are not classified as machine guns. For the same reason manually cranked Gatling Guns are legal, but if you hook up and electric motor to the crank you are in a huge world of legal hurt.

If the ATF wants to now come and ban the Slide Fire, they basically have to modify the definition of a machinegun. The Slide Fire is simply a high quality 33% glass nylon AR stock with no moving parts, period.

The inventor of the Slide Fire, Jeremiah Cottle, a US Air Force veteran of three conflicts, took the bump fire concept and eliminated all of the variables that makes bump firing impractical. The result is a product that bump fires perfectly, is completely controllable, every time, with no special training. There are no permanent modifications to the gun and installation of the Slide Fire does not impair function of the rifle at all.

“The Slide Fire simply allows you to shoot as fast as you want to,” explains Mr. Cottle. “ You can shoot one round, 2 rounds, 3 rounds, 15 rounds or a full magazine. It isn’t governed by a mechanical auto-sear. There are no moving parts in the Slide Fire and no springs. You hold your finger on the trigger rest and push forward to fire the gun. It is not automatic. Nothing is automatic. You actively fire every round, and if you stop pushing forward or you take your finger off the trigger the gun stops firing. It just helps you fire the gun in semi-automatic very fast. You don’t need an auto-sear. You can fire the gun yourself as fast as you want. ”

Unlike certain other AR-15 devices that tend to wear out (the little bit of bent metal device that’s oh so illegal), the Slide Fire is made of mil-grade plastic and a bit of aluminum. No moving parts means nothing to wear out; testing has been done for thousands and thousands of rounds with no wear at all.

Follow this link for more details, a bit of legal analysis, and a very shooty bit of video. Yes, the device works. Very well indeed. Had this been my company, I would not have made the video showing some guy waggling the gun all over the place, “spraying bullets from the hip”. I would have shown him sending 20 downrange on target.

I would suggest that if you want to play with one of these, that you get yourself a superb progressive reloading press and start buying powder in the 8lb cans. So sweet!!!

And here’s the very nicest part: it’s completely legal:

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