Gun ownership. Not just a right, it’s a duty
on 01/05/2008 at 05:59 AM
Notice how when it comes to the 2nd Amendment the fiberals will nit pick that ‘milita’ word to f’n death to advance their guns are killers mantra. . .But have included a bogus - separation of church and state ‘wall’ (only against Christian religions) in the 1st - and expanded the ‘free speech’ clause to include vandalism, lying and a host of other areas that the original Constitution does not mean or include?
And their logic gets really convoluted when someone brings up the fact that the militia law was cut from the books way back when ... oh about the time the National Guard was formed I think ... thus their conclusion is that the 2A is no longer applicable!
BS. As far as I am concerned, not only is it your duty as a citizen to own guns and ammunition, it is also your duty to be reasonably proficient in their use. So do try to get some range time in on a regular basis.
Fiberals? I like it. I will shamelessly steal it and use it from now on. Thanks wardmama.
As for the so-called ‘separation of Church and state’, it doesn’t appear in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence. It does appear in a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to some congregation or other. I forget which, Danbury keeps coming to mind. His point was that there was a separation of church and state...the state was forbidden to interfere in church affairs, not the other way around.
Nowadays, it’s been flipped 180 degrees.
Free speech? Wardmama, haven’t you heard of ‘hate speech’? You can’t say anything that might offend someone. You can’t preach the Gospel because some sodomite might be offended.
I would like to second everything that Drew, our next blogmaster, said.
Yeah, Drew. Peiper and I got together and you’re ‘it’. All we have to do is inform Mr. C.
Personally I believe a private citizen, should he have the desire and the werewithal, ought to be able to buy an Abrams tank or an Apache helicopter if he wants. The founding fathers made it abundantly clear that the reason they wanted an armed populace was so they could protect themselves *from the government*. I don’t think those wearing the government’s gang colors should be the only ones allowed decent weaponry.
Please understand, I don’t wish to sound disrespectful of *those individuals* who feel called to become soldiers or police. I have an IMMENSE respect for them. However, my respect for them doesn’t change the basic equation one jot. If you don’t have to obey the same rules you enforce on everyone around you, you’re just another gang. It saddens me greatly every time I think of how many of our best men and women have been led into that trap.
You know Grumpy, I wore the government’s ‘gang colors’ for six years. Never did I think any different than you do. If you have the money and desire for an Abrams… I want to at least sit in the saddle once.
I’m all for private citizens having the same weapons as police or government. Except…
WMDs
Nukes, Chemical, Biological. No way do I want my neighbor to have that. I really don’t like my government having chemical and biological weapons. Nukes? I’d rather our government had them over any sharia/communist/fascist government.
Other than that, grenades, auto-weapons, anything a single man (or maybe a woman) could use should be legal.
In fact, I’m agaist ‘concealed carry’ laws. I have the right to keep and ‘bear’ arms. I don’t find anything in that phrase that allows the government to require a license to carry a concealed weapon. Certainly no criminals that I know of have ever applied for a CCW license.
I remember questioning the police at our local community meeting. My question was, if it’s illegal to carry a concealed weapon, how about I just carry openly?
His response was that I could be arrested for inciting panic.
I remember being in several Wyoming towns. The guys still carried six-shooters on their hips. This was in 1979-1980. Did I panic? No. I felt safe. I knew I didn’t have to rely on the police to react after the crime was committed. There were easily a dozen armed men who would take out a criminal. The police could just show up and take statements.
hey! i’m in ohio in over 45, does that mean i have no gun rights??
Rancino, I’m pushing 50. Just means I’m no longer a member of the unorganized militia. Guess you aren’t either. How about we get together and just turn in our guns? Gov. Strickland will like that.
Youth before beauty. You first!
Good one! Excellent to have found the specific point. Only problem is I’m over 50.
Jeez, is this the old guys blog or what? Crivens! We’d better get some Grecian Formula and Metamucel blog ads going here to bring in any revenue. (he says, at the youthful age of 47)
Something to think about ... I saw this comment over at the Leibowitz’ Canticle blog
I want to point out that the shots fired at Lexington and Concord were due to the government’s attempt to seize cannon and ammunition from the (soon to be) rebels.
With that in mind, it seems to me that the Second Amendment, being written with the events that fomented the rebellion still fresh in the memories of the authors, might very well have been meant to protect the right to bear arms above and beyond those which we define as “small arms.”
hmmm ....
I agree that private citizens shouldn’t be allowed WMDs.... but then again, I don’t think governments should be allowed WMDs either. Now there’s the one that “if I could push a button and make this technology cease to exist, I would.” But alas, you can’t turn back time. Nor would I be willing to give up nuclear power, nuclear medicine, and virtually the entire space program (most long-life satellites are nuclear powered nowadays) for the sake of giving up the danger of nuclear weapons, so oh well I guess.
I guess my problem with all this is that governments always harp on worries about “irresponsibility”, when anyone who stays awake long enough to observe humanity in action will realize that *individuals* are nearly always responsible. The finger pointing where no one can be found who IS responsible comes with organization, and bloomed with the creation of the fictional entity known as the corporation. I find it highly depressing to know there is one set of rules for us normal citizens, another, looser set of rules for corporations, and yet another, still looser set of rules for governments. If when a pharmaceutical company marketed a new drug and it turned out that “unforeseen side effects” killed several dozen people, the CEO of the company was ARRESTED FOR NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE, I wouldn’t worry very much. I’d worry still less if Janet Reno and Bill Clinton had been expected and required to defend themselves in CRIMINAL court for murder due to the Waco fiasco. Whether they get convicted is beside the point. There is not even the slightest pretense of accountability for the taking of those lives.
If we all had to live by THE SAME laws, WMDs would be a minor worry in my opinion.
Oh and just so ya know, I wore the “gang colors” of the US Navy for 6 years myself. I’m not making even the slightest attempt to say “it’s all someone else’s fault, I had nothing to do with it.” Nope, I did it too. And yes, I am proud of the service I gave. Nonetheless, I was deeply ashamed to know that I was ultimately required to trust my life, my shipmates lives, and our targets’ lives, to politicians who could only be trusted to do three things: Lie, cheat and steal.
The ultimate dilemma of human nature was (I believe) best expressed by Mel Gibson in ‘The Patriot’: “I’m a parent, I can’t afford the luxury of principles.”
Grumpy, a man after my own heart. He even quotes one of my favorite movies (The Patriot). He should be our next blogmaster. How say you all? Agreed? Well, you don’t disagree. Grumpy, you’re ‘it’. This lets Drew off the hook.
I’ll inform Mr. C.
Jeez, is this the old guys blog or what? Crivens! We’d better get some Grecian Formula and Metamucel blog ads going here to bring in any revenue. (he says, at the youthful age of 47)
Drew, you are obviously too young. Do your parents know you post here?
Drew, pththththttttt!!!!!! Young whippersnapper. Why, I remember walking 40 miles, barefoot, uphill both ways,....
...in the snow… and we ate dirt for lunch… and we were *thankful*.
Sheesh.Fiberals - Christopher - I’d love to claim it - but I (shamesly) stole it from a commentor on Michelle Malkin’s blog. . .
Hey Drew, I am not an old guy - old yes, but a gal. And are most of us from OH? I am over 50, we have gun(s) and I’m in OH too.
GOF - I love that ‘and we were ‘thankful.’ You don’t know how many times I heard that line while growing up. . .most times when I was being hit.
