BMEWS
 

The Tueller Drill

 
 


Posted by Drew458    United States   on 06/07/2007 at 12:20 PM   
 
  1. Yes, this is a good thing to train for.

    But, skill attainment aside, it isn’t all that easy to train for.  At least for those of us who are civilians who don’t have their own places to shoot.

    The problem is that I haven’t found any civilian ranges that allow this sort of speed drills while on the firing line.  Most won’t allow holsters, much less live fire drawing from holsters.

    That means that your practice has to be broken into 2 parts --

    A> You have to practice drawing from your holster while at home, making EXTRA sure that you have properly cleared your weapon.

    B> You have to practice your marksmanship at the range, but you can’t practice this from the draw.  In fact, I’ve encountered many ranges that won’t even allow you to practice “rapid fire”, which is what is needed for the double tap required by this particular drill.  A 1 shot per second firing rate is all that many ranges allow.

    It is a sad state of affairs, one that I’ve been told has been dictated to the range operators by their legal advisers and insurers.

    One thing I find amiss by this drill is that it calls for a double tap from a holstered gun on a target 21 feet in 1.5 seconds.  That is actually not all that similar to what you’d actually be facing in “real life”.  What the situation would likely be is that the BG would be 21 ft away when he begins the rush, and you have 1.5 seconds to respond to the attack.  Meaning, the ranges you would be engaging would be more like about 12 ft (first shot) and point blank (less than 6 ft) on the second.  Remember—the BG is moving TOWARDS you, and quickly.  If not, you probably shouldn’t be shooting at all.

    Posted by gb_in_ga    United States   06/07/2007  at  01:52 PM  

  2. Some years ago when taking pistol training my instructor showed us a similar film. The key to being safe was not to draw the weapon, which could initiate a confrontation, but to do what only one guy even tried, that is, MOVE OUT OF THE WAY! When the attack comes, drop back and to one side, quickly, while drawing. That effectively opens the distance for you and gives you time.

    We also study this in my Krav Maga class in knife defenses. Very bad ju ju.

    Unfortunately, due to a very very small number of cases where guns have been taken from officers in a tussle, more departments, like the King County Sheriffs, are requiring complex retention holsters that will give the bad guys all kinds of time to slash and dash.

    BTW, check out the hidden image on Xavier’s site, but not around anyone sensitive,evn yourself.

    Posted by Rickvid in Seattle    United States   06/07/2007  at  01:56 PM  

  3. The guy who dodges is pretty smart. Going into the situation with weapon drawn would be smartest, but that’s against policy just about everywhere I think.

    Posted by Drew458    United States   06/07/2007  at  03:01 PM  

  4. This assumes the officer is not capable of employing other defensive manueuvers including dodging the attacker to gain time.  You want the gun to control him after you have kicked him in the nuts.

    Posted by DixieKraut    United States   06/08/2007  at  02:04 PM  

  5. One such scare would be cause to “pack”.

    Posted by Officer Pupp    United States   06/08/2007  at  10:20 PM  

Commenting is not available in this weblog entry.

Next entry: D-Day, 2007

Previous entry: Re-Start

<< BMEWS Main Page >>