the nanny state alive and well in the private sector.

 

1. I approve! For once a Brit got it right. Come back sans your children and I’ll serve you.

   Posted by Christopher       08/21/2011  at  11:33 AM  



2. No Chris ... He got it wrong! You don’t understand the pubs and pub culture here. It isn’t ALL wild assed drunks, altho I admit there are those and too many.
   How about Church communions?  I believe there’s a spot of something there.
   And family gatherings where the adults have a few drinks?
   It is NOT up to a barman to decide for parents in this case. That isn’t what he’s paid to do. It is none of his business unless the adults are passing the stuff to minors which isn’t the case here.

   Posted by peiper       08/21/2011  at  11:46 AM  



3. Seriously, here in Ohio, bartenders have to consider insurance liabilities. Sad, but true. Otherwise, I’m all for adults setting the example for their children. Historically, people brewed their own ale, beer, whatever.

   My grandfather did that for me. When I was five he’d take me into the garage and teach me poker and how to drink Pabst. Mom was not happy. I’ve got a picture of Grandpa and me playing poker and drinking Pabst. Again, I was five.

   Later, when I was 12 or so, he did the same thing, except I took a chair with several friends/relatives at the poker table. No Pabst this time… whiskey sours were on the menu. This was at his summer lake-house. Again, Mom was not happy. Nor was I, since I mostly lost. But I gained the money back. Seems my poker friends/relatives didn’t know how to play chess. Caveat: they knew how the pieces moved. They had no idea of strategy and tactics.

   Posted by Christopher       08/21/2011  at  11:47 AM  



4. Sorry peiper, we cross-posted.

   Posted by Christopher       08/21/2011  at  11:48 AM  



5. No Chris ... He got it wrong! You don’t understand the pubs and pub culture here.

   I’m fairly certain that Australian pub culture is close. Been there.

   It isn’t ALL wild assed drunks, altho I admit there are those and too many.

   True.

   How about Church communions?  I believe there’s a spot of something there.

   I’m guessing you’ve not attended a Church communion. I highly doubt you could get plastered, or even drunk, by sipping at the chalice.
   

   And family gatherings where the adults have a few drinks?

   Family gatherings are private. No barman has to decide to enforce his business insurance policy.
   

   It is NOT up to a barman to decide for parents in this case. That isn’t what he’s paid to do. It is none of his business unless the adults are passing the stuff to minors which isn’t the case here.
   

   Again, it is his business. Doubtless part of the terms of his insurance.

   Posted by Christopher       08/21/2011  at  11:58 AM  



6. No, it was an employee and not the business owners. Check out the article again.
   Pubs here do allow for minors, those with the license.

   Yes, family gatherings are private. But notice why he refused. Because he didn’t personally believe the ladies should have a drink in front of kids. And btw ... there isn’t any evidence that these two ladies would be on their way to being plastered.
   No, he decided for them based on his personal belief. What other personal beliefs might he want to impose on others?

   Bottom line ... he had no authority to refuse service.

   Posted by peiper       08/21/2011  at  12:08 PM  



7. Bottom line ... he had no authority to refuse service.

   In a Nutshell. 

   Posted by RFA       08/21/2011  at  12:35 PM  



8. Whether the establishment had the legal authority to refuse service or not, that would have been my final commercial transaction with them.

   “Bring the bill for the food and drink already consumed and I’ll pay you for it.  Cancel the remainder of the order.  Then we’ll leave.  Permanently.”

   Posted by Argentium G. Tiger       08/21/2011  at  02:38 PM  

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