It would be a cool idea to read this with Loony Tune closing theme in background.

 

1. Peiper, get the deuce out of the UK now! Go somewhere where you can defend yourself.

   Posted by BlueStateSaint       01/10/2010  at  06:37 AM  



2. Time to change the laws, Brits.... it really IS as simple as that.
   If you don’t stand up for yourselves, you’ve already lost to the hoard.

   Posted by TimO       01/10/2010  at  08:51 AM  



3. Can’t shoot here catman. NO GUNS!

   Blue Saint:  We’re trying,gonna be awhile yet. Tied to house now ... too long a story but things get worse then this. By which I mean, I’m working on my next very bizarre post.

   Posted by peiper       01/10/2010  at  09:31 AM  



4. Lyndon might know as he’s very current on laws of his country. Chris Edwards also I think.
   At a guess, and it’s only that, I get the feeling it’s equal. They do make a big deal out of having guns.  Apparently only the gremlins have them but it isn’t expected of the ‘law abiding.’ sarcasm there but couldn’t help it. This place is absolutely - positively

   DEFENSELESS!

   Posted by peiper       01/10/2010  at  10:50 AM  



5. Some carry now I think. Was a time and it seems like ancient history these days, when even the bad guys normally didn’t carry because the laws and the punishment was severe and swift.
   But not anymore. Now, the gremlins have “rights.” Of all kinds.

   Cops really had no need in those days of a more homogeneous society, a smaller population and especially no where near the immigrant problem they have now. They have also imported a newer kind of criminal and drugs are a much bigger problem then it was in old days. Not to say it wasn’t ever a problem.  But it seems like things now are even harder to control.

   Posted by peiper       01/10/2010  at  02:38 PM  



6. Gun control in the UK is complex issue. Part of this is because since 1945 most governments have been social democrat or socialist. These people favour strict gun controls. However it was probably 1968 when laws were significantly tightened.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom

   The bottom line is provided you are not a lunatic or criminal you can own a shotgun. You can own a high powered rifle provided you have somewhere to shoot it. You can own a long barreled pistol with the same proviso since this is classed as a rifle. You can’t however own a pistol/revolver with a normal length barrel and you can’t use them for self defence. In theory. However I know personally of two cases where people have used firearms to defend themselves. You don’t hear these stories in the press because they don’t fit the “police/crown prosecution service are stupid” agenda and it doesn’t fit the “guns are evil” agenda followed by liberals like the BBC.

   If you have a shotgun without a license like Tony Martin
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer)
   and you lay in wait to shoot some thieving gypsy bastards, aka pikeys you will probably end up in jail. However if you are legally entitled to posses the gun and use it to defend yourself you probably wont. As it happens the Conservatives should they be elected plan to overhaul the law to allow people to defend themselves.

   Posted by LyndonB       01/10/2010  at  10:57 PM  



7. Ah, you are seeing this wrong - now that knives are illegal for defense - they will go to the next ‘weapon’ of choice. THE STATE must defend itself - education and self-defense are the two keys to a strong, independent population.

   While here in America too many think that the education has been won - they are wrong - too many people still use the religious schools and homeschooling is on the rise - and there are still a number of school districts (particularly out of the city hands) that are productive and not kow-towing to the stupid agenda and turning out solid citizens. But it is the people’s job to keep it so.

   And as for defense - it is also the people’s job to fight back again and again to keep that right. What people are not presenting well to the politicos is that gun bans/laws restrict the rights of law abiding citizens and do nothing toward the criminals (check your local arrests - when was the last time you saw a robber, murderer, etc chargedwith unlawful possession of a gun?!? - Oh yeah - an idiot was - Plexico Burris!!!) And therein lies the problem - We The People are threatened and taken to court simply for defending ourselves and the criminals get a pass (most of them right into Congressional seats!?!)

   It would be funny, if it weren’t heralding the end of Western civilization.

   Posted by wardmama4       01/11/2010  at  06:59 AM  



8. And here I was going to post that it should be easy to storm parliament with box cutters and demand they fly into the thames river on this cold day in january. Oh well,another neocon plot shot to hell.

   Posted by Rich K       01/11/2010  at  02:26 PM  



9. And THAT is why I will never return to the UK. As beautiful as where I was stationed in Suffolk and Cambridgeshire was, as close to taking a job with both Constabularies would have paid, the bloody politik was already going bad when I retired and left.

   At that, I wonder if I should have gone elsewhere when I came back stateside in 94.

   Posted by cmblake6       01/11/2010  at  06:33 PM  

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