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Posted by The Skipper    United States   on 11/14/2005 at 07:08 AM   
 
  1. The reason it has slowed down is probably because they are running out of cars to burn. Still the EUrowankers think they can throw some money at the problem and it will go away. I won’t hold my breath.

    Posted by LyndonB    United Kingdom   11/14/2005  at  07:39 AM  

  2. I heard somewhere that it only took the Third Reich 42 days to conquer France (correct me if I’m wrong). So, all Chirac has to do it wait another month or so, and the Islamo-fascist thugs will own the whole country and he can escape on permanent vacation to the Bahamas or something… island

    Posted by Jester    United States   11/14/2005  at  08:08 AM  

  3. Great column Friday by David Brooks. French Moslem kids aren’t very Moslem. They copy American Gangsta styles and behaviours. Namely—clothes, video games, loud music, hyper-masculine posing, contempt for women. Prior to rioting, gang rape was their sport.

    So, popular anti-Americanism worldwide adopts the worst of American Pop Culture.

    That sounds true to me and really messes with my mind.

    Posted by Oink    United States   11/14/2005  at  09:58 AM  

  4. Whoa! That does explain a lot, Oink. Too bad the MSM won’t touch that one with a ten-foot pole.

    Posted by Jester    United States   11/14/2005  at  10:05 AM  

  5. You wanna get stoned on reality, Jester? joint Brooks is a columnist for the NY Times.

    Two thoughts, 1. if you adopt your enemy’s language and culture to battle him, you’ve already lost 2. it isn’t, but I wouldn’t want to win, IF this was what the war was about. (i.e. Gangsta Rap defeats Islam?! Islam has a couple of real virtues.)

    Posted by Oink    United States   11/14/2005  at  10:16 AM  

  6. Jester - Chirac would go to Vichy…

    Posted by dick    United States   11/14/2005  at  11:30 AM  

  7. Or Tahiti.

    Posted by StinKerr    United States   11/14/2005  at  01:33 PM  

  8. Good show on Discovery-Times Channel, “Why Intelligence Fails”.  In the case of Singapore pre-WW2, one problem was old-time Admirals who didn’t grasp the implications of naval aircraft. Their battleships had no air cover & were sunk by Japanese torpedo bombers who were vastly more powerful and had skilled pilots, much more than the Brits expected.

    Another problem was Churchill, and others, didn’t think the little yellow Nips had the balls or skill to pull it off. The statement that seems to apply to Europe and the Moslems—Having a mind-set that is not altered by incremental facts dribbling in. It takes a disaster to wake up the authorities.

    Posted by Oink    United States   11/14/2005  at  07:50 PM  

  9. Oink, you mean like 9/11 which awakened the authorities but left the disenfranchised Democrats slumbering? Admittedly, they woke up briefly but then went back to sleep, thrashing and turning in their little narrow cots, having nightmares about November, 2000 over and over again.

    One thing I can never grasp is why they feel it is so much more important to regain power in Washington than it is to stand united against these determined madmen. Must we lose everything before they grasp the magnitude of the enemy’s resolve?

    I’m sorry but I’m just having a bad case of late-night malaise, brought on by the ceaseless yammering from the Left. Like most sensible Americans I am torn between throwing up my hands and saying let the bastards drag it down on their heads on one hand and on the other hand fighting a war on two fronts, internal madmen and external madmen. It’s a quagmire, alright, and we’re all sinking.

    * sigh *

    Posted by The Skipper    United States   11/14/2005  at  08:40 PM  

  10. I think, for a while after 9/11, even the Left was scared shitless. Except, of course, the Hard Core Crazies. It has been the four years of safety that has given the Left the opportunity to revert. These POSs aren’t worth a pimple on the ass of the men that bought those four years.

    Unless we defeat the Islamo-Fascists, militarily and politically, they WILL get lucky and sneak in a Nuke or Poison Gas. I fear the backlash when a million of us die. Anger like that will not make distinctions.

    Our country has had evil political movements. Pro-slavery—Eugenics—supporters of Stalin and the Soviet Union.  I wish these people had been called to a stricted accounting for their actions; especially the ideological supporters of mass starvation and gulags. But, our country produced Abe Lincoln, Jane Addams, Harry Truman, Ronald Reagan. History will remember them and piss on the graves of the others who produce only noise. 

    Remember, remember, there are millions of people like me and my Sons and my Daughter who would see ourselves and our entire families dead before we’d live under Sharia.

    That’s Formidable. Courage.

    Posted by Oink    United States   11/14/2005  at  09:57 PM  

  11. You’re not the only one, Oink.

    Posted by U2warrior05    United States   11/15/2005  at  01:01 AM  

  12. Power is everything to some. I’m beginning to believe that they’d rather see the country go down in defeat if it meant that they regained power. The beauty part, from their perspective, is that they can then blame someone else.

    Chris Wallace interviewed Jay Rockefeller over the weekend. He asked him if he wasn’t responsible for his vote in favor of authorizing the President to go to war with Iraq. Rockefeller said “No”. He then did some backpedalling but basically he didn’t want to be held responsible for what he voted for. I didn’t look up at the screen at the time, but I think he was talking out of both sides of his mouth as well as his ass.

    One thing the Dems have over the Reps. They will circle the wagons and stick together no matter what the subject is. They will protect each other no matter how heinous a crime might be, provided the perpetrator is a party loyalist.

    Posted by StinKerr    United States   11/15/2005  at  02:32 AM  

  13. U2: I know, “there are millions”.

    SK: I read this recently, forgot who said it: The Left thinks it would be worth it to see the USA defeated, women subjugated, gays executed, freedom destroyed, if only they could get George Bush.

    They are pissants. The Islamofascists cannot win. Only countries like France that invite their enemies inside can loose. The only thing these turds can do is get in a lucky shot.  And that’s only because a man willing to die is hard, hard to stop. (ask Reagan’s security) Even with the luck of having oil, these countries are the asshole of the world.

    I suspect we’ll look back and wonder why we even worried about Islam as an enemy.  Just like we are seeing now how vulnerable the USSR really was. (it had nukes) Islam is collapsing in the face of the modern world (with all its faults). It only seems vibrant the way a maggot-eaten corpse seems dynamic.

    Posted by Oink    United States   11/15/2005  at  03:36 AM  

  14. Good point Oink. The loss of Repulse and the Prince of Wales was scandalous given that a year or so earlier the British had crippled the Italian fleet at Taranto using clapped out Swordfish biplanes. The only people that seemed to grasp the potential were the Japanese who went on to cripple the US fleet at Pearl Harbour as well as sink the above mentioned British battleships.

    The analogy is rather grim. If the general populace does not wake up soon and realise the kind of threat we face then I feel Europe will descend into anarchy. I am sure many Americans will not shed tears over the prospect of that. Too much American blood has already been shed over the ingrates. However a moooslim dominated Europe would be a dangerous prospect especially if they get hold of the nukes.

    Posted by LyndonB    United Kingdom   11/15/2005  at  03:41 AM  

  15. The Iraq war is screwed up just like all war (including the Sainted WW2) is a fuster-cluck.  The reason the terrorists continue in Iraq is the attention they get from the MSM and reflexive “anti-war” KoolAid Drinkers. (ahem!)

    Thank You LBJ: My Worst-Case-Scenario is Europe breaking up just like the USSR did.  In the chaos, who’s watching the Nukes? The Moslems are a huge minority, but a minority nonetheless. The straight-line projections of Moslem ascendancy don’t account for the inevitable resistance that will finally arise. Any day now?

    Posted by Oink    United States   11/15/2005  at  10:46 AM  

  16. Is it possible Oink that we may have to invade France to secure their nuclear arsenal to prevent it from falling into the Muslims’ hands? Not a pretty thought at all.

    Posted by Macker    United States   11/15/2005  at  11:56 AM  

  17. Check your map, OCM. The Mooooosies control several countries. Probably more than you realize. That would include almost all of North Africa, all of the Middle East, except Israel, much of Asia and a lot of South East Asia, including countries where they don’t have control but make themselves violently conspicuous.

    Consider that they send their children to be suicide bombers. Yeah, they’d nuke their own. The Iranians have already said so, and they’re willing to be nuked for it. There is no negotiation with people with that mindset.

    We don’t need to invade France, Macker. We get the Germans to do it, they know the all the routes.

    Posted by StinKerr    United States   11/15/2005  at  02:27 PM  

  18. ocm, thats why they are going world wide they cant beat us in iraq so they then move on to weaker targets, it was on the cards in london 7/7, they started this a long time ago, then after 9/11 you US took it to there back yard, look at there targets for fuck sake kfc hotels woman children. theres no link between them? this aint no paranoia, like you said theres bird shit everywhere, but this shit can kill you, as for france who aint in iraq, fuck them.GO READ SOME OF THIS http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/ AND SEE WOT A FINE JOB YOU ARE DOING IN IRAQ
    Bulldog uk_flag

    Posted by bulldog    Europe   11/15/2005  at  03:28 PM  

  19. no doupt the EU will pick up the bill for this bollocks, and then remind everyone to be nice to them,poooor little fuckers, oh oh you wanted a black Rolls royce, sorry sorry, just burn it if you dont like the colour machinegun
    arrrrrr Bulldog uk_flag

    Posted by bulldog    Europe   11/15/2005  at  03:47 PM  

  20. Funny you should mention that, Bulldog. The EU just allocated a sackful of money to France to “help” with their problem. No link, sorry.

    Posted by StinKerr    United States   11/15/2005  at  04:06 PM  

  21. Algeria, Egypt, Syria dealt decisively with Moslem radicals.  skull
    One of the reasons the scumbags started looking for opportunities overseas. Also there is a deal with the devil: preach and practice hate in the West and we’ll leave you alone.

    Posted by Oink    United States   11/15/2005  at  04:24 PM  

  22. I don’t see what difference it makes, OCM. The mooooooooooosies come in all varieties. Think of the pale whiteys getting caught as well as the duskier variety. Race is not a factor, it’s the belief system and more importantly whether or not it’s of the radical extreme. My forst thought was that you were trying to open the door to crys of “racism” but you wouldn’t do that. Would you?

    Posted by StinKerr    United States   11/16/2005  at  01:55 PM  

  23. You won’t hear farakan say anything like that. It’s all whitey’s fault, you know. Everything is whitey’s fault. White devils and all that. Only one string on that banjo.

    Well, with the exception of Lynd I haven’t seen any “white” men in that pile either.

    Where are you trying to go with this?

    Posted by StinKerr    United States   11/16/2005  at  06:32 PM  

  24. Okay, I’ll buy that. All priests are not pedophiles. Indeed I’d say that the great majority are fine human beings.

    All postal workers aren’t crazy gun-toting loons either, although they sure get hung with that for a few instances of gun-toting loons, who happen to be postal workers, acting out.

    It follows, then, that all moooosies aren’t terrorists despite a tiny minority doing everything in their power to give that impression.

    However, there is enough in each of these examples to give people second thoughts about each one. Isn’t there?

    Posted by StinKerr    United States   11/17/2005  at  12:49 PM  

  25. Facts: The local Post Office is safer than a corresponding business the same size.  98% of pedophiles are married men.

    My Opinion: There is something intrinsic in Islamic culture that leads to tyranny and violence.

    I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.

    Posted by Oink    United States   11/17/2005  at  01:01 PM  

  26. OCM: Individuals bear the guilt/responsibility for their own behaviour, yes.  AND ....

    Don’t tell me that that (cultures, nations, ethnic groups) don’t have tendencies to behave in certain ways.

    Posted by Oink    United States   11/17/2005  at  01:51 PM  

  27. Come on, Man. You do not get to pick where you’re born. I’m an American: I speak English and wear jeans and speak my mind regarding politics and despise mixing government/religion. I also like peanut butter and beer. I suspect that human sacrifice is wrong in every culture and context. Beyond that, the Devil is in the details.

    A few things are evil per se.  Many other things are morally void, but just don’t work so good.

    Posted by Oink    United States   11/17/2005  at  02:33 PM  

  28. I believe that the moooosies religion requires that they be submissive. I think that this is part of the cultural problem. When you have something like this there will alays arise someone who feels that everyone should be submissive to him. While outsiders can take care of the megalomaniacs when they get out of hand, they can’t solve the underlying problem. It is up to Islam to solve this problem. They need a reformation and many of them know this. Unfortunately they are a minority. Then again, Martin Luther was a minority too.

    Posted by StinKerr    United States   11/17/2005  at  10:07 PM  

  29. Y:ou don’t get to pick where you are born, but usually you can decide whether or not to stay there. That’s what populated the U.S., Canada, Australia, etc., etc..

    Posted by StinKerr    United States   11/17/2005  at  10:09 PM  

  30. OCM: All Western Democracies that speak English, save Canada, which has Quebec.  How many people migrate even from France <> Germany?  I could have asked Sri Lanka <> Japan.

    People have always come to the USA.

    Posted by Oink    United States   11/17/2005  at  10:14 PM  

  31. Apologies, OCM. I meant StinKerr. (I thought you sounded unusually articulate OCM.)

    SK: I’m a Catholic (convert). I think they badly need a Reformation.

    http://www.meforum.org/article/441

    READ the above link. Best thing I ever read on Arab society. Not too long.  Trust me.

    Posted by Oink    United States   11/17/2005  at  10:41 PM  

  32. That guy pretty well nails it. It jibes with some other commentary that I’ve read. He left out the part that I’ve seen before where supply trains might not ever get to the units to be resupplied because the supply convoy commander would sell off the supplies enroute.

    Let’s hope that they never get their shit together. They could actually be formidable. We must never forget this.

    Posted by StinKerr    United States   11/18/2005  at  12:52 AM  

  33. Do not forget the warning at the beginning: If you go into battle thinking, “The Wogs can’t fight”, prepare to get your ass kicked. In Afghanistan, the Taliban thought we were the Wogs.  Hello cave-penetrating fuel explosives. Or, hello Japanese Torpedo Bombers in WW2. 

    Culture affects behaviour.

    Posted by Oink    United States   11/18/2005  at  04:02 AM  

  34. OCM regarding entry 25. the guy extradited from Italy to Britain for the July failed bombing attempt was (no one knows for sure) either Somali, Ethiopian or Eritrean. These guys don’t exactly keep comprehensive birth records and he claimed asylum in Britain as a Somali but already had asylum in Italy aunder another name as an Ethiopean (I think I could have it the wrong way round). Either way he is not North African, he is most definitely black. From a historical perspective some of the most fanatic moooslims were found in the Sudan. Followers of the Mahdi who wiped out General Gordon. They got their comeuppance at the hands of Kitchener and a young Churchill togther with the Maxim gun!

    Posted by LyndonB    United Kingdom   11/18/2005  at  04:24 AM  

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