Tuesday - February 02, 2010

The Pope has made an unprecedented attack on the Government … pay attention to this.

Not fit for much in the way of posting today. Must be the weather.
Then I read this.  POPE & POLITICS. At first I didn’t pay it much attention.  But after awhile, seeing the comments ppl were making and hearing the issue debated on radio, I got to thinking this was more important then I first thought.

There are some folks who claim the pope has no business making any comments re. govts. anywhere. I’m not Catholic and I’m not religious either but, I’m not too sure about that last opinion.  Why shouldn’t the pope make his feelings known?  It isn’t as though it’s the old days when he could galvanize an entire country to do Rome’s bidding.  And I am not so sure he doesn’t have some valid points to make.  You don’t like what he has to say fine.  Then debate the issue without getting nasty.

The homosexual community have spoken out and many have even suggested that his planned visit here should be banned.  And these are the folks always banging on about rights and freedom of speech.  Oh right.  Freedom to express their views but damned if they want others to have the same privilege.

Lets be very clear on something.  The pope’s comments are NOT directed at that community solely.  He has spoken on a number of issues. 
Can anyone tell me why a Catholic school or a Baptist or Jewish school, should be bound by law to admit those who do not in any way share the faith or religion of a school?  And btw, many a non Catholic has received a pretty good education at Catholic schools. 

What most of this has to do with is that nut case Harriet Harperson (Harman) and her “everyone MUST be equal” crap.  It is she and her agency and the govt. that seem intent on interfering in religious schools and dictating to them.  And one really oddball thing about a lot of this is, many of them are not even religious themselves.  But they’re quite willing to tell the religious how their schools should be run, all in the name of ‘equality.’

Pope’s intervention sparks equality bill row

That’s the headline at the link above.  But what “intervention?” Is having an opinion and speaking out as head of a church, intervention?
Maybe it is.  It appears to be open to debate among quite a few people.

This is just one of the issues.

By politics.co.uk staff

Catholic pastors are preparing for their biggest confrontation with the government in years after the Pope encouraged them to take on Harriet Harman’s equality bill.

Benedict XVI has warned the legislation, currently working its way through parliament, imposes “unjust limitations on the freedom of religious communities”.

It could strip the Catholic Church in Britain of its ability to discriminate against homosexuals in employment matters and even force them to allow women into the priesthood.

Here are a couple of reader comments on this I found at the Telegraph.

Of course the Pope should comment. I am not a Roman Catholic but this government law is just one more assault on our freedoms. How ridiculous that anyone could consider it reasonable that someone who rejects and even opposes Christian values should be able to insist on working for a Christian organisation. This is a direct attack on the freedom to believe and associate with others who believe the same. I would not find it at all objectionable for a Muslim organisation to insist that its employees should all be Muslim.

I am Reformed and certainly do not agree with Roman Catholic Doctrines; nevertheless, one must ask, why is it that the Archbishop of Canterbury fails to speak out on moral issues with clarity? Is it because he is so liberal and is happy with the staus quo? He certainly gives the impression that he is “wishy-washy” in his theology, and fails to make an impact on society as a whole, far less politicians.

In any event, as I posted elsewhere today in the DT, the Equality Bill is not merely Harriet Harman’s desire; rather, it’s an EU diktat.

But not everyone agrees of course.

If the church cannot stop discriminating it is not serving its purpose, not following the inclusive teachings of the bible but off on its own sick perverted dogma. In our society we need to stop discrimination and the church should be leading that, not continuing to insist of legal permission to discriminate.

“to drive religious belief and practice into the sphere of the private only” Isn’t that where it belongs anyway? Worship whatever you want but don’t try to push it on me. Gay is not a choice. You are born that way or not. So to discriminate against it is the same as discriminating against someone for having a different skin color. It doesn’t make them worse or better just different.

Naturally enough my favorite is this one, no surprise.

I wish the press would stop the misuse of the word GAY. If they mean homosexual or lesbian then say so .

The comments are quite interesting and can be found HERE

Posted by peiper     on 02/02/2010 at 11:35 AM   
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