Wednesday - April 17, 2013

Oh Boo Hoo

Extended Background Checks Dies In DC

Obama, our petulant pouter in chief: You must want children to die!

The Senate on Wednesday defeated a vital background check amendment seen as the linchpin to Democrats’ gun control bill, dealing a major setback to President Obama—who lashed out at opponents in unusually blunt terms during remarks from the Rose Garden.

“All in all, this was a pretty shameful day for Washington,” Obama said, accusing the gun lobby of lying about the bill. 

The vote was 54-46, with supporters falling six votes short of the required 60-vote threshold.

The failure of the background check proposal authored by Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., and Pat Toomey, R-Pa., now imperils the entire legislation.

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“The gun lobby and its allies willfully lied about the bill,” Obama said. He said the claims “upset” some gun owners who in turn “intimidated” senators.

“There were no coherent arguments as to why we couldn’t do this. It came down to politics,” he said.

“The gun lobby and its allies willfully lied about the bill,” Obama said. He said the claims “upset” some gun owners who in turn “intimidated” senators.

“There were no coherent arguments as to why we couldn’t do this. It came down to politics,” he said.

Then there’s that other coherent argument: making such a law wouldn’t do a damned thing to lower crime or reduce mass shootings. So why bother?

Unfortunately, the freaky rules the legislature labors under in DC allow this bill to be voted on again. Put me in charge, and I’d change that too. Vote, and if a bill fails, it can’t come up again for 3 years, nor can any other bill that contains half or more of the points the failed bill contained. None of this endless Mulligan BS. You lose, bye bye.

PS - read the darn bill. As much as they - the left - LIE about it not making a national firearms registration database, that is exactly what it sets things up to do.

This is how it looks from the other side. I’m sure my smart readers can spot the bias and the misdirections ...

Public opinion gets trumped in gun control defeat

A bipartisan yet controversial proposal that would have extended current background checks for gun buyers to include gun shows and internet sales Wednesday fell six votes shy of the 60 needed in the Senate to advance through the chamber. The amendment by Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Republican Sen. Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania went down in defeat even though just about every national poll conducted the past couple of months indicated that the vast majority of Americans supported tougher background checks.

The most recent surveys included a CNN/ORC International poll released last week that indicated 86% of the public supported some form of background checks that are not currently required by law for gun sales, and an ABC News/Washington Post survey released Tuesday which indicated that 86% of Americans said they favored background checks for gun sales on the internet and at gun shows.

The two new polls were also in-line with past surveys by indicating no partisan divide on the question, with the vast majority of Democrats, independents, and even Republicans supporting increased background checks. The ABC/Washington Post survey also indicated that 86% of gun owning households supported the proposal.

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“The American people are trying to figure out: How can something have 90% support and yet not happen?” said the president in comments made at the Rose Garden in the White House, an hour after the vote in the Senate.

“All in all this was a pretty shameful day in Washington,” added Obama, who was flanked by victims of gun violence.

Don’t you just hate it when presidents use people as props? Kind of like Saddam Hussein and his human shields. Pretty low IMHO.

I’d like to see a “high information voter” poll selectively taken on this issue:
1) Do you vote regularly?
If YES, go on
2) Have you read the Constitution?
If YES, go on
3) Are you at least somewhat familiar with the Bill of Rights and the concept of limited government?
If YES, go on
4) Do you know what NICS is?
If YES, go on
5) Do you favor enhancements to NICS or extending NICS for
5.a) better Mental Health screening?
5.a.1 - 5.a.x ... questions regarding specific mental health screening and history proposed measures
5.b) person to person sales?
5.c) Internet or newspaper gun sale advertisements that don’t involve a gun store or registered FFL dealer?
5.d) Should person to person sales at gun shows be approved by NICS?

And then find 100,000 to 500,000 respondents who can make it past question #4. That would give you a real statistical base of people who actually understand the issue, instead of the pile of cow pats who just react emotionally to things they have no understanding of.

6) Are you a gun owner?
7) Are you a registered Republican, or do you consider yourself to be at least somewhat Conservative?

I’d bet another tube of caulk that those last two questions would hit at least 75%.

Oh, and PS Barry: a very strong majority of Americans were extremely vocal about not wanting your damned Obamacare. And we got it anyway. Was that another pretty shameful day in Washington??

PPS - Somebody please tell me how a bipartisan bill with 86% or more public approval can be controversial? “Thoroughly debated” I can see. “The will of the people” I can see. But controversial? When 9 out of 10 citizens want it, according to our ever-honest and transparent President??

Posted by Drew458     on 04/17/2013 at 05:30 PM   
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