Saturday - September 17, 2011
Pebble East, Pebble West, Does The EPA Know Best?
Ok, this is a tough one.
One the one hand we’ve got an “almost” mine where investors have already spent hundreds of millions of dollars exploring the strata, and have found themselves on top of two of the largest copper, gold, molybdenum, silver, rhenium, palladium, and porphyry deposits on the planet. We’re talking billions of tons here. Billions. Of tons. 50 million ounces of gold, perhaps more. All proven. No conjecture. Mining jobs for 100 years. And I’m calling it an “almost” mine because it’s not really working yet, nearly 20 years after the deposits were first found. It’s taken that long to go through the beauracratic process. And it might suddenly get worse if Washington Senator Maria Cantor has her way.
On the other hand we have some fish. No, I don’t mean that sarcastically, like the Snail Darter that caused so much Endangered Species fuss some years ago. I mean fish, as in, a large part of the entire Alaskan salmon industry.
See, the Pebble Mine is on watershed land up behind Bristol Bay, which is where all the salmon swim through when it’s breeding time. And the rock that would be mined is called chalcopyrite - a porphyritic granodiorite mineral that is gold, copper, iron, and sulfide all bonded together. Add water and it turns into sulfuric acid, and the minerals drop out. Oh, and the area is seismically active, like most of Alaska. So we’re talking about a two mine approach, both of gargantuan size: an open pit mine that could be 2 miles across, and a deep shaft mine that could swiss-cheese the underground strata for miles in every direction. And to get billions of tons of minerals, that means hundreds of billions of tons of waste rock. Mine tailings. Acidified muck in giant, giant piles. Giant lakes full of toxic runoff behind earthen dams ... just waiting for the next earthquake. But let’s not mislead ourselves: though headwaters they may be, they are many miles back from the bay itself. Dozens of mile I think. 15 at least. Sorry, I’m new to this topic, and I’m suffering a bit of information overload. But the mine area is not right on the bay. It’s back in the hills. Still, the salmon swim some distance upriver to spawn, right?
Can a giant mine be run without destroying a fragile environment? Is the environment all that fragile anyway? And of course, there’s the Indigenous Native Angle, who have lived off of the salmon for centuries and feel some kind of spiritual bond with them. Not to mention the whole salmon fishing, canning, sport fishing, and state licensing industries that swim right along with them. What you’d call seriously vested interests. And let’s not forget that whole Alaskan Beneficiaries thing; I gather that the state wealth is shared out to the population, and everybody gets an annual check from the oil and gas industries. I don’t know if that concept applies to mining.
I told ya, it’s a tough one. And it gets worse.
First, a little tiny bit of background, because the scope of this thing is just so damn huge I have to paste some data on it:
In recent years, however, another potential source of immense wealth has emerged around Bristol Bay. At the headwaters of two drainages that flow into the bay, beneath lands owned by the state of Alaska, a company named Northern Dynasty Minerals has discovered a gargantuan mineral deposit. The granitic rocks hidden beneath an otherwise ordinary upland basin and rounded foothills contain riches beyond anything ever discovered in North America – and possibly the world.
The find is known as Pebble Mine, and, with its full extent yet to be determined, officials estimate that it contains 67 billion pounds of extractable copper, 82 million ounces of gold, and 4 billion pounds of molybdenum. At current prices [as of 2008], the mine’s metals are worth $345 billion to $500 billion.
Seeing how much copper has gone up in the past few years, I’d put those numbers at $750 billion or more today. And those numbers may have been before the Pebble East deep continuation was even found, and it may be just as large as the western part. So we could be looking at a trillion. Maybe more.
Years worth of exploratory drilling has shown that the recoverable deposits go down 1700 meters - more than a mile deep.
The salmon side is also quite large, in it’s own way:
Bristol Bay is home to some of the largest runs of salmon in the world, all five Pacific species spawn in the bay’s freshwater tributaries. Commercial fisheries include the world’s largest sockeye salmon fishery, which along with herring and other fisheries, account for nearly 75% of local jobs
Sport fishing is also an important part of the area’s industry. There are many lodges catering to sport fishermen exploiting the tremendous salmon and trout populations in the freshwater tributaries. Freshwater species include humpback whitefish (Coregonus Pidschian), Dolly Varden trout (Salvelinus Malma), and Rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss).
Not only the commercial and sport fish harvest is important: seasonal subsistence harvesting of salmon and year-round subsistence harvesting of freshwater fish is a critical part of life for rural residents of the Bristol Bay region, most of whom live downstream of the Pebble site.
If fully developed, the roads and other infrastructure for Pebble mine would cross - and perhaps impact - nearly two dozen of these spawning streams.
The place was first discovered in 1986, because the ore beds go right up to the surface and can be seen from airplanes. A few years worth of investigation were done, then folks took a decade off. Money problems I’d bet. Since about 2001 another company has come in and has been doing all sorts of exploration, planning, environmental studies, and filling out government forms. For a decade. Meanwhile, it’s been something for the folks in Alaska to fight about, in case hockey and dog sled racing get boring. In that Big Empty land of ice and cold, this one is a hot potato that never cools off.
just a few links - you can Google up hundreds more with ease:
http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2062
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/pebble-no-mine-alaskas-ever-seen (this one describes the rocks as acidic, yet Wikipedia tells me they are alkaline. I’m no geologist)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_Mine
http://www.pebbleminealaska.com/
http://dnr.alaska.gov/mlw/mining/largemine/pebble/
And now we get to the story that reader Beth wrote me about, from her work at resourceful earth news, a pro industry blog from what I can tell. Well, at least the place doesn’t seem to ooze self-righteous Greenie Sap like a Sierra Club meeting.
Hi,
We need your help in stopping a critical assault on the environmental review process. We cannot overstate the importance of making people aware of this behind-the-scenes attack.
U.S. Senator Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) recently wrote a letter to the EPA urging the agency to halt the Pebble Mine Project in Alaska. The Alaskan copper and gold mine project has been in limbo for more than three years – with $120 million spent to research how to have minimal impact on the surrounding environment near Bristol Bay. Once it has been officially proposed, the Pebble site will have to go through 67 federal, state, and local agencies for approvals and permits. If this isn’t stringent enough, I don’t know what is.
Now, Cantwell won’t even let the process work. She is changing the game altogether by moving to preempt the environmental review process the EPA put in place. The consequences couldn’t be more serious if Cantwell succeeds in her efforts. If she succeeds, *ANY Natural Resource Extraction in the United States will not be safe from the EPA and radical environmentalists.*
As Alaskan Senator Lisa Murkowski wrote, a preemptive veto of the Pebble Mine project will expand the powers of the EPA and “could have widespread and unintended consequences for any development project, including airports and other infrastructure.”
Cantwell’s actions make a mockery of the federal environmental review process and leave Americans even more dependent on foreign sources to meet our needs for natural resources and energy. More American jobs will be lost and it will be another blow to our already shaky economy.
I think the implication is that, having followed all the rules to the letter, crossed all the Ts and dotted all the Is, the mine was set to proceed, so in desperation it was time for the Gaia Squad to pull a fast one out of their bag of dirty tricks.
ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Washington Sen. Maria Cantwell said Monday she would oppose a proposed huge copper and gold mine near Alaska’s Bristol Bay if studies find it would harm salmon and thus put jobs in her own state at risk.
In a letter sent to EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson, Cantwell described Bristol Bay’s salmon population as an economic lynchpin for commercial fishermen both in Alaska and Washington. Nearly 1,000 Washington residents hold Bristol Bay commercial fishing licenses, she said.
“Thousands of my constituents have contacted me expressing their concerns regarding the potentially catastrophic and widespread long-term impacts of the proposed Pebble Mine, which would be the world’s largest man-made excavation,” Cantwell said in her letter.
Cantwell called on the Environmental Protection Agency to consider using the Clean Water Act to prohibit or restrict large-scale development around the bay if it would harm the world-class salmon-producing rivers in the region. She also expressed her support of the agency’s decision to conduct a thorough analysis of large-scale mining near the Pebble Mine project site.
Mike Heatwole, a spokesman for the Pebble Limited Partnership, told The Associated Press the senator never sought any information from the companies involved about the project or the scope of its environmental studies.
In addition to commercial fishing jobs, nearly all major seafood operations that process Bristol Bay fish are based in Washington. Cantwell’s letter said Bristol Bay commercial and recreational fisheries are worth at least $500 million annually.
The EPA announced in February that it would analyze the potential impact of the Pebble mine proposal on watersheds feeding Bristol Bay.
The Bristol Bay Native Corp. and nine federally recognized Bristol Bay Alaska native tribes have asked the EPA to use its authority under the Clean Water Act to stop the mine from being developed. The analysis is expected to be released this fall.
WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, today released the following statement in response to a news report that Washington Democratic Sen. Maria Cantwell may seek a preemptive veto from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) of the proposed Pebble Mine:
“Attempts to prejudge development in the Bristol Bay area before a permit application has even been submitted would make a mockery out of the federal environmental review process. A preemptive veto makes no more sense than a preemptive approval.
“I am fully committed to protecting Bristol Bay and the fishing industry it supports, but a preemptive veto represents a serious violation of Alaska’s state’s rights and would undermine the science-based approach long promised by this administration.
“When and if a permit application is submitted – for Pebble or any other project – an independent scientific review is exactly what happens under the environmental review process that NEPA provides,” Murkowski said.
On Feb. 7, in response to being petitioned to preemptively veto development, EPA announced plans to conduct a watershed assessment of the Bristol Bay area in Alaska. In response, Murkowski sent a letter to EPA, and recently toured the Pebble site with EPA Region 10 Administrator Dennis McLaren. During that visit, Murkowski pointed out that the wetlands throughout the Bristol Bay region are similar in character, and a preemptive veto could have widespread and unintended consequences for any development project, including airports and other infrastructure.
Today, Murkowski once again stipulated her support for the normal environmental review process and her opposition to EPA attempts to expand its authorities to include preemptive vetoes of development.
Murkowski is the Ranking Member on the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee and the Senate Appropriations Committee’s Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies Subcommittee.
Please read Beth’s post on the Pebble Mine situation. She wants people to get involved and put some “drill here drill now” pressure on the dear Senator. And her post has more info on Pebble, some neat videos, and a bit of dirt she dug up (hur hur hur) on her. Actually, the whole blog looks like a pretty good resource to me.
Can such a mine be made and not kill all the nice fish? I bet it can. Can we afford to let yet another vast national resource lie dormant forever? I bet we can’t.
Oh, and just so you know: there is a green movement afoot that is pressuring Obama and his power mad EPA to stop ALL mining in the entire country. ALL OF IT. Coal, oil, copper, iron, trap rock, you name it. It’s bad for the environment you know. And you know what? Their tactics are EXACTLY the same ones used by Washington State Senator Cantwell.
Environmentalists love the moras of federal regulation and rulemaking as they can almost always find one rule or law that contradicts another, thereby opening a means to sue. And if, by chance, the government does actually clarify contradictory rules the environmentalist merely attempt to move the goal posts.
That’s the tactic employed by Earthworks, an environmental Non-Government Organization (NGO). The group has been running a national campaign this week aimed at pressuring the EPA to provide additional federal regulations to close what they’ve deemed “loopholes” in the Clean Water Act. Their website claims that the bill as it stands now is confusing and allows American mining companies to “dump their toxic mining waste directly into our waters!”
They’ve selected the language “closing loopholes,” but the truth is that Earthworks and its supporters are looking to add layers of federal regulations to the Clean Water Act so that it is nearly impossible for the mining industry to function in the U.S. The fact that such a move would cripple American jobs and stall economic growth isn’t an issue for Earthworks.
Gosh, follow the rules to bring your product or service to market and still find yourself damned? That sounds a whole lot like the attitude the left had towards the gun companies during the AWB days. Because, gosh, the new government rules were supposed to SHUT DOWN that whole manufacturing industry, weren’t they? Crivens, what a bunch of one trick ponies. SSDD, forever.
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Permalink • Friday - July 29, 2011
gween council suggests meatless day to save planet. union says drop ded
OK, in the scheme of things this itty-bitty bit of nonsense isn’t a big story. But it sure does point out in caps and bold, how the tree hugging liberal left planet savers not only think, but what lengths they’re willing to explore to get their way.
I have no problem at all with someone making suggestions and then simply letting people make their own choice. However, you need to understand the following.
The town council’s Green Party introduced a vegetarian day, as a part of it’s election manifesto in May of this year.
How’s that for a political issue? And to think. These wild eyed zealots get themselves elected to office.
Alright, so their grand idea has been rejected. People have spoken. Does it matter? Well ... only in the short term.
Take a look.
MEAT-FREE MONDAY DUMPED BY BINMEN
By Tim Ridgway
Refuse workers caused a rumpus over a plan to ban meat from the menu.
Brighton and Hove City Council’s Cityclean workers are used to a beefed-up offering at lunch with bacon butties and lashings of lamb top of the wish list.
So they were left horrified when caterers at the council’s depot in Hollingdean, Brighton, decided to offer only meat-free meals.
The idea of “meat-free Monday” formed part of the Green manifesto before the party took control of the local authority in May.
The Cityclean depot was the first to introduce the change.
But managers have been forced to shelve the scheme immediately after the workers refused to let them give chops the chop for even one day a week.
One worker said: “As a result of potential grievances and general disgust at being told no meat would be served in the staff canteen, the policy has been abandoned and they will return to serving meat every day from now on.”
Central services cabinet member Jason Kitcat said: “We are not looking to force this on staff which is why we talked to union representatives before it was introduced.
“The idea is to find ways to get staff and people to talk about the issue.
“We will continue to keep having conversations with staff to find out ways forward.”
Meat Free Monday was launched in 2009 by Paul, Stella and Mary McCartney as “a simple and straightforward idea to show everyone the value of eating less meat”.
It claims not eating meat for one a day a week can save people money, reduce the impact on the environment and help people live healthier lives.
Supporters include Sir Richard Branson, Gwyneth Paltrow and Joanna Lumley.
A council spokesman said: “It’s disappointing if the concept hasn’t gone down too well.
“But we’ll work to communicate the benefits better and work closer with the workforce in any future plans.”
Humankind is by nature carnivorous. There are many who aren’t. Many are vegetarians. Hey, their choice. But Sir Paul has spoken publicly about meat eaters and the ruination of the planet and environment issues related to the meat industry. If he and the gweens had their way, they’d most likely have a ban.
All for the good of humanity naturally. And the twees and fowusts and Bambi.
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Permalink • Monday - April 18, 2011
stupid california tricks
I actually tripped across this (there’s lots more but I think I lost the link) and found it interesting and the usual scary/stupid California thing.
Hell, I don’t even expect to still be here in 2020. If I am, heaven knows what shape I’ll be in.
Being in love with computers and California is like being in love with an unfaithful mistress. Yeah I know. I’ve said that before but it’s no less true now.
Gee, both begin the letter ‘C’ and I wonder if there’s a connection. Well, I’ll be.
Let me explain what happened here. I clicked something without thinking and soon discovered I had subscribed to a feed of some kind. RSS? I think I did that, thinking I was clicking on to a link for further info.
So I started reading all kinds of interesting stuff not knowing how the heck I was getting it but there it all was. And btw, this ALL started because I was looking for Sun City Real Estate. I was getting cross eyed with those darn thumbnails and then when I did find a site I was hunting for, instead of letting me click thru the photos, they were running a slideshow and no option to slow the damn thing down, as it was running too fast. Are web designers thoughtless er what? Not all of course but I often find the sites for real estate are pretty dumb.
Well anyway, I found myself staring at this page, and before I knew it, I was engrossed. So I decided to post part of it and provide a link. That’s when disaster struck. I couldn’t find my way back to the page. Back arrow did no good and I have a list a mile long and growing. ????
Then worse happened and I have never experienced this before.
I landed on another story and to be sure I didn’t lose it, I tried to do what I always do when I find things. Or most always.
I open up a Word doc. and paste everything in there including a link to the source, and do any editing needed there.
BUT .......
Not this time. I got a window that opened and said I was short on memory or disk space. HUH? NO WAY! So I opened Notepad and pasted the next story there. So of course, I haven’t any idea what’s going on. I only know that ever since Microsoft tech helped me last week, I’ve lost a few settings and my printer does not work even tho looking in msconfig it says that spooling is running. MSFT tech support is calling me back tomorrow afternoon as the issue I originally called them for was left open. I don’t know why.
Over in the world of transportation, California has mandated that diesel emissions be reduced 85% by that halcyon year, 2020. This constitutes a multi-whammy for independent truckers, who will have to spend $8K to $20K per truck to retrofit them so that they can be operated through 2016, and will have to purchase new ones (at $80K to $250K a pop) by 2020 – although they won’t be able to get rid of their old ones for better than pennies on the dollar.
(Ed Morrissey wrote earlier this month about the highly questionable study – linking diesel emissions to premature deaths – which led to California’s adoption of the emission-lowering requirement.)
(Hey ... is Calf. following the EU? Or is the EU taking the lead from the left in CA? Cos they want to eventually do away with diesel here.)California isn’t worried about the impact of the diesel regulations on the trucking industry. But it is a big fan of high-speed rail (HSR), on which it’s moving full-speed ahead. Citizens are calling the first leg of the HSR project the “train to nowhere,” because it will link two moderate-size towns in the Central Valley, which have no commuter needs relevant to the HSR connection – and no cargo needs either, for that matter.
HSR advocates are pointing out that the train will bring jobs to the areas hit hardest by agriculture losses and farm failures, the result of 30 or more years of improvident federal and state water policies. Myself, I’d rather have the farms. So would the farmers.
And this is an excellent time to observe that nothing going on here is dictated by blind fate: politicians and regulators are making decisions – according to their opinions; i.e., on the same basis you and I do – about what they want to encourage and discourage. They are consciously disfavoring agriculture and favoring high-speed rail and environmental “restoration” projects. (Meaning, “make it like it was in 1960 again, with the salmon runs and the water in my favorite spot in the Delta”; but why not 1910, or 1840, or 1776?) Of course, HSR potentially poses threats to wildlife too, and some environmental groups are pointing that out.
But perhaps the most interesting thing about HSR is that it uses a lot of electricity. China feeds the HSR system with coal-generated power. Japan and France feed theirs with nuclear-generated power. California wants to have HSR but ensure that 33% of the state’s electricity comes from renewables. Since passive renewables are unreliable on a 24-hour average basis – winds die, clouds come – the rail system will presumably have to monopolize some of the more-reliable electricity being produced for California.
Down the road, there will be an impact, in various forms, from energy unreliability. My guess is that it will be a combination of even higher electricity prices – a premium (or, basically, extortion) for reliability – along with periodic compromises from regulators on how well the power companies are meeting their mandated renewables goal, and (the practical measure) a proliferation of generators operated by businesses and homeowners, who will want to keep the power saw, the refrigerator, or the a/c on when the grid is overloaded.
In other words, state policy will guarantee that what you spend on electricity goes up, period.
For many power customers, there’s also the option of moving away.
WOO-HOO! I found the link. She’s pretty good. Take a look.
It’s headed, Stupid California Tricks
http://theoptimisticconservative.wordpress.com/
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Permalink • Tuesday - February 15, 2011
Socialist Nations Cancel Green Initiatives
Times of international turmoil are great moments for domestic governments to make important announcements they don’t want to be noticed. Especially if the announcement involves a sudden reversal in policy that could seriously embarrass the government.
So Friday afternoon was an ideal time for Ontario’s Liberal government to take a big chunk of its alternative energy program and chuck it overboard. Attention was riveted on Egypt, where spectacular events were unfolding. The perfect opportunity for Premier Dalton McGuinty to engineer yet another major reversal, while paying a minimal price among voters.
After years of touting wind projects as a critical piece of the alternative energy puzzle, the government let slip — very quietly — that offshore wind projects are no longer part of the game plan. Turns out there just isn’t enough scientific evidence that offshore wind projects do a lick of good, said Brad Duguid, the energy minister.
“It’s simply a case of recognizing we need to take a closer look at the science on freshwater offshore wind projects,” said Duguid. “Right now there’s only one in the world we’re aware of, in Sweden. There’s a number of issues that need to be looked at before anything could ever be considered for approval.”
A thousand mostly rural residents across Ontario who were awarded solar energy contracts last summer have been told their projects have been put on hold.
That has left many with tens of thousands of dollars invested in projects for which they now have no prospect of getting any income.
“I’ve got $70,000 sitting right out in my backyard,” said Brian Wilson, who lives near Belleville, of his 10-kilowatt solar array. “I can go two doors down and they’ve got $70,000 invested, too.”
But they’ve both been told that they can’t connect to the electrical grid because of technical issues.
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The province told 20,000 applicants across Ontario last year they had been awarded contracts for solar energy under what they called their microFIT program.About 3,700 have been connected to date.
But about 1,000 have now been told they can’t be connected in the foreseeable future, because local utilities don’t have the wires or other equipment to carry their power to the grid.
The would-be solar entrepreneurs already had one bitter battle with the provincial government last summer, when the province slashed the rate being paid for power from some types of installations.
Meanwhile, over in the UK:
Carbon Trust funding cut by 40%
Cuts to the government’s low-carbon agency will cancel grants to biofuel projects and cause dozens of redundancies
The government’s leading low-carbon agency has had its funding cut by 40%, causing the cancellation of grants to a major biofuel scheme and other projects, and dozens of redundancies.
The Carbon Trust, whose mission is “to accelerate the move to a low-carbon economy”, will receive £50m from the government in 2011-12. It will end free on-site energy surveys for businesses and 35 of its 216 employees will lose their jobs.
“Public funding still remains necessary and important to achieving our mission, especially in catalysing low-carbon innovation to overcome market failures and in supporting smaller businesses to cut carbon,” said Tom Delay, the Carbon Trust’s chief executive. But with public funding “constrained”, he said, the trust would look to the private sector for investment.
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But Adam Harvey, a chemical engineer at Newcastle University, said: “The cut is very much against the claim of David Cameron and the government that they would regenerate the UK’s economy via green technology – it’s the exact opposite in fact.”Harvey’s research group had received a grant from the Carbon Trust as part of an £8m effort to develop biofuels from algae, but the funding has been axed halfway through the project.
From The Daily Bayonet
Solar and wind subsidies are unsustainable and always were. As as soon as voters woke up to the billions being wasted on greenwashing, [Canada’s] McGuinty changed tack, but he owns the green agenda and is the father of the Green Energy Act come October it may be his end. Let’s hope so.
“Greenwashing”. What a great term. And now loads of Canadians and Britons are going to suffer, not just the wasted tax money, but because they believed their government’s Green Initiative BS, and invested loads of their own money, “knowing” that the government would continue to subsidize them. That’s all off now. Reality bites, even for the Socialists. None of this will slow Obama down a step, of course.
Angering rural voters, and battering your credibility with the environmental crowd, aren’t great ideas if you run a government that faces an election in eight months. So it’s no wonder that Ontario’s Liberals sought to hide the bad news by releasing it when (they hoped) no one was watching. But the excitement in Egypt won’t last forever, and eventually people will notice that Ontario’s government, once again, has been forced into a humiliating retreat at considerable trouble and cost to individual Ontarians.
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Permalink • Tuesday - December 21, 2010
Not Slow, Not Fast
Powerful Democrats help Chinese energy firm chase stimulus money
Sen. Reid and Obama donors back company seeking $450 million in U.S. moneyTop Democratic fundraisers and lobbyists with links to the White House are behind a proposed wind farm in Texas that stands to get $450 million in stimulus money, even though a Chinese company would operate the farm and its turbines would be built in China.
The farm’s backers also have close ties with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who, at the height of his hard-fought re-election bid this fall, helped blunt congressional criticism over stimulus dollars possibly going to create jobs in China by endorsing a proposal by the Chinese company to build a factory in his home state. Although his campaign received thousands of dollars in donations from the wind farm’s backers and Reid stood on stage with them at a campaign event they hosted, his office declined to answer any questions about the wind farm’s organizers or their plans for Nevada.
The wind farm, first announced more than a year ago, would consist of 300 2-megawatt wind turbines, each perched atop a 26-story-tall steel tower and spinning three blades — each half the length of a football field. The farm would span three counties and 36,000 acres in West Texas land best known for its oil. Dubbed the Spinning Star wind farm, the project’s 600-megawatt capacity is, theoretically, enough to power 180,000 American homes and would be the sixth-largest wind farm in the country.
It is being planned by an unusual joint partnership between the U.S. Renewable Energy Group, a Dallas investment firm with strong ties to Washington and the Democratic Party, and A-Power Energy Generation Systems, an upstart Chinese supplier of wind turbines. Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission indicate the Chinese are bringing financing and the turbines.
On Sept. 15, 2009, just weeks before he announced his new renewable energy venture that would tap Obama’s stimulus plan for hundreds of millions of dollars, McGarr met with Pete Rouse, one of three “senior advisers” to the president. Rouse was named acting chief-of-staff in October 2010 after Rahm Emmanuel announced his departure. Rouse was formerly the chief-of-staff for former Democratic Senate leader Tom Daschle. McGarr is the chairman of Daschle’s political action committee.
This last paragraph is a bit out of context. Read the article an it becomes clear, that the people behind this project are all big-time DNC cash donators and bundlers. ( and it’s an MSNBC article to boot, so you know this part is downplayed ) They’re tied into the Chicago Machine and the DNC Elites like white on rice. So this is just another case of Osneaky taking care of his peeps. Half a billion here, half a billion there, it’s not like it’s our money or anything. Or that the taxpayers will ever have to pay this cash back. Oh, wait. Um, never mind!
Meanwhile the Democrats continue their utterly false class warfare demagoguery on the Evil Rich™, while passing out zillions to rich folks and lobbyists who are in line with their agendas. I’m sure if this group wanted to put in the wind farm without sending a cent overseas they would not stand an ice cube’s chance in Hell of getting as much as a dollar in stimulus cash. But their plan will bleed America, so that half billion is pretty much guaranteed. Probably with another billion waiting in the wings for the inevitable cost overruns.
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Permalink • Friday - December 17, 2010
New Stevie!
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Permalink • Monday - December 13, 2010
cancun … where the elite meet ta eat and frolic while others pick up the tab.
DOWN, with global warming.
UP, with Climate Change. All hail and long live the newer version of the old religion. Tax donate till it hurts in order to help the poorer countries.
Hey, why not just let those poor countries tax the west and forget donations etc. Hell, they’ve been taxing us for generations anyway.
Newspapers and charities insist on showing us pictures of baleful stares and pitiful poses (and mostly they are posed), of starving turd worlders. Like Somalia for one example. Haiti is another. Oh yeah. Before I forget.
What the sam hill is our lady Sarah doing in Haiti? She is getting some bad input from advisors I think. Come on, is anyone gonna believe it was her idea? Even if it were, it’s going to be seen as more political (which you know it has to be) then any warm feelings for a failed country that has been an open money pit for the west for generations. Nothing is going to change in that blighted place for the next thousand years. Those folks just are not up to it. Alright, maybe they’ll start to make progress in 500 years. Sarah Palin in Haiti my friends just does not appear natural. Couldn’t her advisors find something a bit closer to home to focus on?
Back to climate change and the horrid things man and woman kind are doing to our planet. Leaving huge carbon footprints. One of the newest of the new deadly sins in this religion. So like 15,000 (or was it 1,500?) fat cats from around the globe, all gathered in comfy rooms at four or five star hotels in Cancun, with miles of rented limos and how many planes? All to discuss the subject bequeathed by the prophet Gore, may he find a good piece to curl up with.
So it now comes to this. It’s suggested that another tax be levied on the Brit taxpayer in gween taxes, to help the poor blighted countries of the world.
As though this country hasn’t paid, and been paying for years and years and years and years and years ...... When is this BS gonna end? When exactly are people going to wake the hell up and say damn it. Enough! Groan.
Here. Take a look.
Cancun climate change conference: Britain is urged to impose £15 billion in green taxes
British taxpayers could pay an extra £600 per year in green taxes to help poor countries cope with the floods and droughts caused by climate change, Lord Stern has suggested.By Louise Gray, Environment Correspondent Cancun
The economist said the UK would have to contribute around £1.5 billion from 2020 to a new ‘green fund’, that is expected to be set up during global talks on climate change in Cancun this week.
The Treasury is unlikely to set up new mechanisms to raise such a small amount of cash.
Therefore it is better to raise ten times as much and use just ten per cent for the green fund. The rest can be used as the Government sees fit.
An extra £15 billion could be raised in taxes on polluting industry and power from coal, gas and petrol. Although the levies will be directly on factories or power stations, eventually it will come down to the consumers.
If every householder was to pay the same amount it would cost £600, although ultimately it is likely to be unevenly distributed as households with more cars or high energy use will pay more.
“People would see these tax rises through electricity, through cars,” said Lord Stern.
However he was keen to point out that the overall bill for households would not necessarily increase as taxes should reduce elsewhere. Also energy costs should come down as a result of improved efficiency and more renewables.
“This is a story of people paying for the damage they do, this is stopping subsidising pollution,” he said.
“This is a story of shifting the basis of taxation, it could be from VAT, it could be income tax, or they could fund schools. This is a change in the balance of taxation.”
The UK is already paying billions of pounds installing wind turbines and other green energy sources, as part of global efforts to cut carbon emissions.
The hard copy version says the taxpayer SHOULD pay ... the on line version says COULD pay.
Why not just forget about it altogether? Cos then all those fat cats would have no where to fly every year at someone else’s expense. They’d most likely have to stay home. Maybe even with their wives and or husbands.
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Doing It The Wrong Way
This looks like some major arm twisting to me. A kind of extortion, similar to Jesse Jackson’s actions against businesses. Or it is simple common sense?
Virgin boss Sir Richard Branson has declared war on the shipping industry with a new climate change initiative.
The Carbon War Room, an independent venture, wants to see an efficiency rating on every ocean going vessel to help clean up the industry. It is the first of many industries being targeted by the group who believe climate change can be solved through business rather than government summits. Ministers from 190 countries are into their second week of negotiations in Cancun, Mexico with no sign of a global deal.
Sir Richard told Sky News: “It is up to us business leaders to help those politicians deliver, they haven’t delivered so far, if they don’t deliver we can’t afford to wait. “It is up to us to get our house in order and make sure the world is safe for our children and our grandchildren.”
While shipping is a relatively clean mode of transport it accounts for over a billion tonnes of C02 a year - if it were a country it would be the world’s sixth biggest emitter. Carbon War Room believe the sector could be made at least 30% more efficient by upgrading and refitting ships. Their website http://www.shippingefficiency.org has catalogued 60,000 of the world’s ocean going vessels, with the cleanest rated ‘A’ and the worst polluters scoring ‘G’.
Peter Boyd, who is leading the project, explained: “You can go online and see an estimate of how clean or dirty the ship is. Whether you are an owner and you want to display that you are an A grade ship, whether you are a port or if you are a brand like Marks and Spencer or Sainsbury’s, you can start to pick your fleet depending on how efficient it is.”
The ratings are estimates but Carbon War Room believes there is only a one to two percent margin of error.
Industry experts welcome the move although they say it currently paints a very general picture.
Dr Simon Walmsley of WWF International told Sky News the ratings would provoke an industry reaction “and hopefully get them around the table to discuss how this can be a more accurate representation.”
“If that happens this will be fantastic, as these sort of rankings are very helpful for both customers and consumers.”
Right-o. So we’ve got a bunch of greenies here, or what? Or is it real? It shouldn’t be all that hard to figure out: ( mass of freight cargo hauled X distance traveled ) ÷ ( fuel used X weather factor ) = Efficiency Rating, and that rating implies a pollution level. Well, ceteris paribus. Which it never really is, because things are only equal in Economics 101. In the real world they never are.
One problem though: if you don’t factor in time, then sailboats will appear to be the big winners here. And if you do factor in time, you’ll soon see that the most gigantic ships are the most efficient ones, even though they pollute the most on a per ship basis. Not only that, but proper analysis will show that only 3 or 4 routes across the seas are the most efficient. And anyone who knows a bit about logistics will see the risks and problems with shipping One Big Order from point A to point B when you actually need 12 little orders to go to points C, D, E ... N. So secondary transport costs and warehousing have to figure into the equation to make it meaningful, and they never will (each company’s needs and locations are different). So this is a worthless metric. Sound and fury, signifying nothing.
On the third hand, no matter which way you slice it, this greenie rating will show that in terms of fuel efficiency and lower emissions, nuclear powered civilian owned cargo ships are the way to go. And that will blow their minds. Or cause them to argue for Obama and the One-Worlders to now take over the shipping industry.
But it does rather look like arm twisting to me: “government isn’t getting the job done, so we’ll turn to the market and let them solve it ... by publishing a list of ratings we dreamed up, causing a big ruckus and frightening dogs and little children, then we’ll twist the clean-air-guilt screws on retail businesses, then we’ll have a big meeting with all the shipping companies and see if we can’t figure out a way to make our ratings, you know, actually accurate.” Say what??
On the fourth hand, all of this is predicated on the belief that shipping customers could give a flying fart about the emissions generated by the ships they hire to bring in their cargoes. Seems to me that the only thing that matters to them is the volumetric time to cost ratio: I need a lot of my stuff and I need it right now = pay more, vs I’ll take a little and I can wait = pay less. I guess Branson thinks he’s going to run millions and millions of ad campaigns that say “Oh noes, the Dover Rover Cheese Company imported a barrel of rennet on a dirty boat! Don’t buy their products!” and that will actually have meaning? Oh please. After the 5th ad for the 3rd product for the boycott de jour NOBODY will pay it any attention whatsoever. And all any company will have to do is to bring in ONE load of stuff per year on the M/V Mr. Clean, and make an ad about it. The rest of the time they can explain away using the SS Dirty Birdy as “spreading the wealth around” to “developing third world economies” and get a total pass.
This is a dipshit idea Sir Richard. Now go wash your hair, you look like a greasy teenager.
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Permalink • Friday - November 26, 2010
gorebal warming is slowing down … where will that leave the priests of the new religion?
Oh dear .. The Bunny Huggers aren’t gonna alike this.
Be interesting to learn what sort of excuses or bad names will be applied to the scientists who do not belong to the new GWarming religion.
Now before settling in on anything or accepting this report, lets wait to hear what Al Bore has to say on the subject.
He has been kind of quiet lately tho, hasn’t he?
Global warming has slowed down over the past 10 years, say scientists
By Daily Mail ReporterThe rate at which global temperatures are rising has slowed in the past decade, scientists said today.
In a report published today, the Met Office said the slow in the rate of warming was down to a combination of natural variation in the weather and pollution.
Scientists say one of the major factors is the rise in heavy industry and pollutant ‘aerosols’, particularly in Asia.
An upsurge in industrial emissions such as sulphur which are being pumped into the atmosphere reflects sunlight and could lead to a cooling effect.
Changes in the amount of water vapour in the stratosphere may also be a factor, the report suggests.
The admission will be seized upon by climate sceptics as evidence that man-made global warming has been overstated.
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No more beef and cheese: Go vegetarian, by order of Government food police …..
Lets not get overwrought here. Ain’t gonna happen but must say I got a laugh out of it. Although some are quite serious about this. And naturally I think they’re all 
Moonbatty.
No more beef and cheese: Go vegetarian, by order of Government food police
By Sean Poulter
Wholesale changes to the nation’s diet, with a move towards vegetarian food and away from beef and cheese, have been recommended by Government advisers.
A report commissioned by the Food Standards Agency suggests radical changes to what we eat and even how we cook.
These include eating more seasonal produce to reduce transportation and switching to microwave ovens and pressure cookers to use less energy in preparing food.
Out would go beef, cheese, sugary foods and drinks such as tea, coffee and cocoa. In would come vegetables and pulses, together with yogurt.
The FSA says the switch is necessary as part of a move to a diet that is low in greenhouse gases (GHG), which are associated with climate change.
The report, compiled by a team from the University of East Anglia, suggests that schools, hospitals and other public bodies should be expected to lead a change in national behaviour by putting low-GHG food on their menus.The university was at the centre of allegations last year that it had manipulated climate change data to magnify the problem.
Its report, called Food and Climate Change, will be controversial given that many people may baulk at being told what they should eat in order to meet greenhouse gas reduction targets.
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Permalink • Wednesday - October 13, 2010
the great global warming fraud ……..
This issue is something else that won’t go away anytime soon. The zealots on the left of course will do all they can to silence the debate. There are btw, some schools here that already are teaching youngsters one side of the argument and “green things” have become a religion. Kiddies are lecturing parents about it, which tells you how far the tree huggers are in the argument. I can not imagine a public school here teaching another viewpoint without either losing funding or finding themselves at the center of a storm they will not weather well.
This is a heck of a story, I’m doubtful any of you have seen it. I’d encourage you to read all the letter at the link below. You may want to use it if you have your own blog site. Or simply share it any other way you see fit. Take a look.
US physics professor: ‘Global warming is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life’
By James Delingpole
Harold Lewis is Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of California, Santa Barbara. Here is his letter of resignation to Curtis G. Callan Jr, Princeton University, President of the American Physical Society.
This is an important moment in science history. I would describe it as a letter on the scale of Martin Luther, nailing his 95 theses to the Wittenburg church door. It is worthy of repeating this letter in entirety on every blog that discusses science.Dear Curt:
When I first joined the American Physical Society sixty-seven years ago it was much smaller, much gentler, and as yet uncorrupted by the money flood (a threat against which Dwight Eisenhower warned a half-century ago). How different it is now. The giants no longer walk the earth, and the money flood has become the raison d’être of much physics research, the vital sustenance of much more, and it provides the support for untold numbers of professional jobs. For reasons that will soon become clear my former pride at being an APS Fellow all these years has been turned into shame, and I am forced, with no pleasure at all, to offer you my resignation from the Society.It is of course, the global warming scam, with the (literally) trillions of dollars driving it, that has corrupted so many scientists, and has carried APS before it like a rogue wave. It is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life as a physicist. Anyone who has the faintest doubt that this is so should force himself to read the ClimateGate documents, which lay it bare. (Montford’s book organizes the facts very well.) I don’t believe that any real physicist, nay scientist, can read that stuff without revulsion. I would almost make that revulsion a definition of the word scientist.
So what has the APS, as an organization, done in the face of this challenge? It has accepted the corruption as the norm, and gone along with it. For example:
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Permalink • Saturday - October 02, 2010
No Pressure
The whack-job greenies have finally come out of hiding, and shown their true colors.
And those colors are red black and white, because they are nazis. Eco-nazis.
http://pajamasmedia.com/eddriscoll/2010/10/01/red-lining-the-eco-insanity-meter/
Agree with them or be killed.
“Oh get a life, this is funny” they say “it’s a joke to raise awareness.”
Horseshit.
Looks to me like they’ve used heavy artillery to shoot themselves in the foot with. And now they don’t have a leg left to stand on.
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Permalink • Thursday - September 02, 2010
Buggin Out
I hate you stinkbugs
Oh yes I do
I will Drione™ your ass
And Sevin™ too
I’ll watch your death throes
And think it’s swell
Oh stinkbugs
Burn in Hell
It’s that time of year again. At the end of the summer the little bastards seem to swarm, hanging out on outside walls and windows. Are they getting ready to breed? I don’t know. I don’t care. But I do know that they’re beginning to look for sheltered nooks and crannies to overwinter in. And our condo has vinyl siding, which seems to be made up of nothing but nooks and crannies.
I stepped out on the front balcony tonight and the little horrors were all over me. They are pretty heavy bugs, and each one is about the size of a dime. So you can really tell when they land on you. And their wings rustle with a deep drone ... brrrrrrr ... sounds like they’re the size of sparrows when you have one in your room at night. Ick. And they fly at night too. And they stink. P. U. Not just when they sense danger. All the time, but even worse when they get upset.
So I got out the Drione™ puffer and went at it. Did all the corners, all the little openings on the edges, all around the slider frame and underneath the toe kick. And while I was at it I must have squashed 3 dozen. You have to take that Drione™ dust on faith. It’s not a knockdown poison. You puff some out, the bugs walk through it, and within minutes - or hours, or a day or two - they curl up and die. But the poison powder also has a stimulator in it, so when the bugs get in it they get hyperactive. This makes them die faster, in theory. All I know is that suddenly they were all over the place. I’m expecting a crunchy carpet of corpses by tomorrow. At which point I’ll probably spray Sevin in the grooves for the sliding door’s glass. Hell, I’ll put up duct tape, sticky side out, if I have to. It’s war.
Yuck.
UPDATE: Use the right tools to do the right job. But first, know your enemy.
Stink bugs come in several varieties. There is the green stink bug, the southern green stink bug, the brown stick bug, and now we have the lousy Chinese import Halyomorpha halys, the East Asian Brown Marmorated stink bug. And it’s accidental introduction point was Allentown PA, not too far away, just 9 years ago. They have quickly spread all across the northern parts of America, right out to the Pacific Coast. That’s the kind that I have here, and they are tougher to kill than the green varieties. The good news is that around here they only breed once, or at most twice, a year. Unlike the dixieland stink bugs that can breed 5 times a year. The bad news is that they destroy crops, especially fruit, and do a bang up job on several kinds of ornamental shrubs too. The icky news is that like all stink bugs, they love to sneak into your attic and hide out over the winters. In flocks. Swarms. Satanic multitudes.
“marmorated” refers to their coloring. It means “veined or streaked like marble” and is similar to “brindled”. These particular bugs here are gray-brown, but are darker in the middle and have white spots out at the edges. So, marmorated they may be, but they still have to die.
A whole bunch of internet research shows me that straight up pyrethrins like Drione™ are not the best solution. Oh they work, but you shouldn’t drive screws with a hammer. Find a screwdriver. Looks like the screwdriver of choice is bifenthrin. It’s a synthetic pyrethroid that is non-toxic to people and pets when dry. Bifenthrin is a long term residual and is one of the best termite control agents on the market. It does a great job on cockroaches too. Farmers spray their crops with the stuff. Landscapers use it to control bugs in your lawn. For stink bugs, several studies have shown that a dilute strength of around 0.06% will kill these bastards with a 95% confidence level. That statistical talk for “git ‘er done”. And you get exactly that dilution when you mix an ounce of Bifen I/T in a gallon of water.
But there may be an even better way. Recent research has shown that a combination of bifenthrin and imidacloprid is far more effective than either one used alone. Imida-what? Imidacloprid is an acetamiprid. Who? It’s a neonicitinoid. What? Dammit, speak English!! It’s synthetic tobacco juice, m’kay? Tobacco juice has been used as a pesticide ever since some colonial American took a chaw of ‘baccy and spit the juice on a bug, which up and died.
Both neonicitoids and pyrethrins kill bugs by short circuiting their central nervous systems. So they go crazy until they collapse. And twitch to death. Cool. But because bugs are much simpler life forms than pets and people, theses insecticides don’t have much effect on us. Imidacloprid is classified by the EPA as a Group E pesticide which means no evidence of carcinogenicity has ever been found. Farmers use the stuff all the time to control chewing pests that eat their crops. As far as I can tell, right now there are no pesticides on the market that combine both these ingredients, but patents have been applied for and efficacy results are turning up. So it’s really just a matter of time.
The Asian stink bug (Halyomorpha halys), also commonly known as the brown marmorated stink bug, is an insect pest that can be a significant problem in back yards and gardens. Originally from Asia as its name suggests, the Asian stink bug can damage and kill plants and may destroy fruit crops. It can also produce a horrible odor when disturbed or crushed. To protect your vegetables, flowers and shrubs, get rid of this pest if it’s infesting your property.
It has now been unexpectedly found that an insecticidal composition containing bifenthrin and acetamiprid, results in high knockdown and mortality rates when applied to general household pests. A preferred liquid insecticide composition ... is comprised of from 0.001% by weight to 0.12% by weight of bifenthrin and from 0.001% by weight to 0.20% by weight of acetamiprids .
Sweet. I like high knockdown rates. Spray ‘em and watch ‘em drop. Time for me to go out on the balcony and count the casualties. The war goes on.
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Greenpeace claims to have shut down Greenland oil well
They evaded the police AND the Navy? Somebody is not very serious about security here.
It’s like I have long believed. These folks know what they can get away with. They know for certain that instead of bullets or mustard gas, the people they oppose will try and use words. They will not want to hurt anyone.
I guess what bothers me so much about these people, is the idea that they have ALL the correct answers, and are willing to take on the job for all of us to be saved from the threats they see looming. Like, the sky falling. Of course, only homophobic fascists disagree with them and need to be silenced as only their opinion is allowed.
These people are nothing but a seagoing mob. The only way to deal with a mob, is to exterminate it. Problem solved.
Some folks may differ but that’s how I see it.
Short video at the link.
Greenpeace claims its activists have shut down a ‘’dangerous’’ oil drilling operation by a British energy company in the Arctic.
from The Telegraph
The environmental group said four expert climbers in inflatable speedboats had evaded the Danish navy to climb up the inside of the Cairn Energy oil rig off Greenland.
The four campaigners are now hanging from the rig 15m above the icy Arctic ocean in tents suspended from ropes, halting its drilling operation, Greenpeace said.
The campaigners, who are protesting against what they claim are the ‘’huge risks’’ energy companies are taking with the environment by drilling for oil in deep water, say they have enough supplies to occupy the tents for several days.
They claim that if they halt drilling for a short time, Cairn will struggle to meet the deadline to complete exploration before the winter conditions set in, forcing the company to abandon the search for oil off Greenland until next year.
Sim McKenna, from the US, who is one of the climbers, said: ‘’We’ve got to keep the energy companies out of the Arctic and kick our addiction to oil, that’s why we’re going to stop this rig from drilling for as long as we can.
‘’The BP Gulf oil disaster showed us it’s time to go beyond oil.
And it’s this bit of quote that makes my point I believe.
Last week the campaigners said they were confronted by a Danish warship sent to protect the drilling operation in the seas off Greenland.
Greenpeace said it had been warned that the ship would be raided and the captain arrested if it breached a security zone set up in the area.
So what did happen? Nothing except that the mob has occupied the rig. Which is exactly what they knew might would happen.
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