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calendar   Wednesday - April 17, 2013

breaking news boston isn’t exactly breath taking, media rush in hope of being first?

Well hell, the way they originally sent it through was totally misleading.

Daily Mail had a headline on line, that hinted at arrest.
There’s still much to see here.  Not sure about the guy you’ll notice they are referring to.

They say he is running at speed in a different direction from others but, that isn’t what I see. I see some panic, that’s natural, and ppl running in different directions. But apparently there’s something suspicious about this one guy. Maybe. Guess in time we’ll all find out

Boston bomber is caught on camera: FBI reveals store footage shows ‘dark-skinned man in backwards hat’ planting second explosive moments before blasts tore through marathon crowds

Officials say no one is in custody as yet

Have they got him? Suspect ‘in backwards hat’ identified from department store video as possible bomber - but officials deny reports he is already in custody

Conflicting reports on Wednesday afternoon about whether or not the man was in custody
Much of key video footage came from Lord and Taylor department store
Shows the suspect walking towards the mail box, dropping a package and walking away
New crime scene photographs from the first blast confirms that a pressure cooker was used in the device
Lid of pressure cooker found on rooftop of building 35 yards away
Other photographs submitted to the FBI reveal the scene before and after the second bomb detonated
Devices were designed to act as ‘Claymore’ anti-personnel devices - which are meant to maim on the battlefield
An orange and grey bag can be seen on the opposite side of barriers to spectators before the second blast
New video shows man in black with shredded pants running away in the aftermath of one of the blasts
The pressure-cooker bombs were packed with shards of metal, nails and ball bearings
Devices are frequently used in Afghanistan, India, Nepal and Pakistan, according to Homeland Security
Eight-year-old boy, 29-year-old woman and University of Boston grad student killed in the attack
183 people injured, at least 23 of them in critical condition and ‘a lot’ of amputations have been performed

By Rachel Quigley, Lydia Warren and Annette Witheridge In Boston, Massachusetts

The FBI announced there has been ‘substantial progress’ in the investigation after they analyzed surveillance footage from the Lord and Taylor department store and revealed it showed a man in a backwards baseball cap planting the second bomb.

Because of that video - and local news footage - authorities were able to get exactly what they have been looking for - someone coming in and dropping a package in a black bag before quickly walking away again.

It was initially believed that the man had been arrested and would soon be taken to court but White House officials later denied that anyone had been take into custody or even positively identified.

CNN later backtracked and said it had been a misunderstanding and no arrest had been made.

Amateur pictures taken by someone in a nearby office building may show the man responsible running away from the scene - though this is only speculation.

‘I went to the window and I was looking in the direction of the finish line. I saw simultaneously a runner go down, a huge explosion, and then a deafening roar,’ Benjamin Thorndike said. ‘I had my camera in my hand, and I just pushed the rapid-shutter button down and just took 25 pictures over the course of what felt like a long time, but I think it was only 15 or 20 seconds.’

He added that he thought it was strange that the man was running away from the scene while everyone else was instinctively crouched down and taking cover.

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Posted by peiper   United Kingdom  on 04/17/2013 at 01:34 PM   
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Red White and Blue

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See More Below The Fold

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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 04/17/2013 at 01:23 PM   
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More on my Gun Show Weekend

I must have ambled past that dealer a dozen times. Each time I stopped to look longingly on his 9mm P-226. No other dealer had one. I’m sure he was getting annoyed. One dealer had a P-229. It has a shorter barrel and the frame is wider than the P-226. And it just didn’t feel right when the dealer let me handle it.

Thirteenth time I walked past the West Chester Guns table, I sat down and asked for the P-226.

Dealer: “A man who knows his firearms!”

Actually I know nothing! But after a decade of reading or listening to the Deathlands series, where the main character, Ryan Cawdor, carries a 9mm P-226 with the suppressor, I felt like I knew this firearm already. Not that I’m ever influenced by a fictional character… grin but Cawdor almost always gets his scrambled brains together after a mat-trans jump by reciting the specs of his weapon.

Then the dealer handed that P-226 to me. And magic happened.

That gun fits my hand perfectly! I didn’t realize this before, but I bought my revolvers to suit my wife. They really are too small for me. The P-226 just fits. Weight and balance are perfect. I can’t quite describe it, but I knew I was not going home without one. Maybe Drew will understand. My wife keeps telling me to quit playing with it. I can’t. It feels too much like a part of me. The P-229 didn’t come close!

So Michael, when are we hitting the firing range? Drew advises I run at least 500 rounds through her, ‘observing proper barrel break-in procedures’, whatever those are. Drew, please elaborate.


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Posted by Christopher   United States  on 04/17/2013 at 12:54 PM   
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Knee, Jerk

Pete King, (RINO-NY) still at it.

King: Report sales of anything that can be bomb parts

Horry clap, is this guy even capable of coherent thought???

(CNSNews.com) - Rep. Pete King (R-N.Y.), a member of both the House Homeland Security Committee and the House Intelligence Committee, wants retailers to tell police about people who buy innocuous items that could be used to make a bomb.

This follows reports that the Boston Marathon bomber used pressure cookers packed with nails and ball bearings to kill three people and maim dozens of others at the finish line on Monday.

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“But the fact is that if someone is a terrorist, that they can construct a bomb and put it together. If they can carry it that far, chances are they’re going to make it to the event. That’s why the intelligence is so important, to be aggressive, to be out front, and why it’s important (for) people, if they see something, say something.

“For instance, merchants, if they’re selling any components that can be used for a bomb, everywhere from ball bearings to beauty products, they can all be used to make bombs. They should notify the police.”

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King said getting “more intelligence” is something that “has to be done.”



Dude, you’re calling for a fully monitored police state. And a nearly infinite sized government with nearly infinite computing power that can track nearly every purchase made by anyone, and have an algorithm handy that can do the analysis in real time and put A, B, C, and D together and come up with T. For every person in the country. All the time. Oh, and you’d have to outlaw cash sales too, so that every transaction had a name associated with it. Because, you know, terrorists never pay for anything with cash.

Let’s see how that would play ...
Purchased 4 cans of Drano, aluminum foil, and large cast iron covered skillet on Monday.
Purchased gunpowder and 5lb buckshot on Tuesday.
Purchased 25lb bag of charcoal on Wednesday.
Purchased 5lbs of loose roofing nails the Saturday after that.
Purchased 25lb bag of fertilizer that same day, from the same Home Depot.
Purchased 20 gallons of diesel fuel half an hour later.

Terrorist Bomber!!!!
Or just a guy doing a few home improvement tasks and some reloading, who needed to gas up his truck? Seems like Peter King would set up Big Brother and have him “err” on the side of “caution” and bust that wannabe bomber!

Petey baby, you’re foaming at the brain. Again. Still.


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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 04/17/2013 at 09:23 AM   
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A Rude Display

Texas Cop: “We’re Exempt From The Law”

soldier arrested for carrying a rifle in the woods



Army Master Sergeant. C. J. Grisham, a serving American soldier and veteran of the the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, who recently was illegally disarmed by the Temple Police Department while out for a walk with his son.

“We live out in the country in Texas, near Temple,” he told me. “My son and I were on a ten-mile hike so that he could earn his hiking merit badge – it’s the last badge he needs to become an Eagle Scout.” But half way into the hike, Grisham said, “a police officer pulled up.” Initially, he was “cordial” and he “asked what we were doing.” Grisham told him. “Then he looked at my rifle. I carry a rifle any time I walk around because there are feral hogs and cougars and things like that.”

From here, things took a turn for the worse.


Follow the link and read the rest, and watch the rather chilling video. I wonder how big a lawsuit it’s going to take to teach the cop that he isn’t Boss Hog?


Update: MORE. Looks like Barney Fife here is just acting as his master told him to (and screw that inconvenient law) ...

The conflict between law enforcement and armed military personnel in the community around Fort Hood, one of America’s largest military bases, has recently and repeatedly involved the issue of gun control — and the tension has been exacerbated in part by an Obama-supporting prosecutor described as a “bandleader” of anti-gun efforts in the heavily conservative community.

The conflict reached a fever pitch last month, when Texas police arrested an active-duty Army sergeant for “rudely displaying” a hunting rifle.

Last month? Dammit, I hate it when news sites put some story up as if it happened today. Are their aggregators so slow that things take 30 days to bubble up to the top? Give me NEWS, not OLDS.


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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 04/17/2013 at 08:45 AM   
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AND SO THE RUMOURS START … BOSTON HAS HALLMARK OF RIGHT WING … PROOF SO FAR? 0

Well I guess we all knew, those to the political right, that it was just a matter of time before someone blamed the right for Boston.

In an article by Chris Greenwood in the hard copy edition of The Daily Mail but not available ( I looked ) on line, someone described as a counter-terrorism expert named Richard Barrett says Boston has “hints of a right wing attack rather than Al Qaeda extremism.”

The article then goes on to show all the other violence committed on Patriots Day. And btw, till recent times I had never heard of Patriots Day.

Greenwood writes that “Patriots Day has been warped by a growing number of white supremists and other far right groups.”

The article connects Waco, the Virginia Tech. massacre, Columbine, Tim McVeigh and now Boston.  This is because all those other outrages occurred on or very near this date, according to Barrett as reported in the Brit press by Greenwood who is listed as Crime Reporter.

I’ve never wanted anything so awful as to want it to be a terrorist attack by the rop and not any of our ppl.  That is, an American and especially anyone connected in any way with the political right in the USA.


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Posted by peiper   United Kingdom  on 04/17/2013 at 08:24 AM   
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Hard pressed

It’s 4am here and I can’t resist the pun. Yeah, we got taken to the cleaners last night on Greed League, and had the starch knocked out of us. Ironed flat. Steamrolled.

Pretty sure this was the last week of regular play, and we were up against the first place team. We all showed up, and bowled fairly well. They all showed up, got drunk, and kicked our butts up and down the highway. All night long. I kind of forget how good these kids are. Well, not exactly forget, because I know they’re a bunch of sandbagging ringers ... but I only get to see them really bowl two or three times a year at the end of the season. The rest of the time they’re just chugging along, hardly in 2nd gear.

We got a bit over 100 pins net handicap. They beat us by 321 pins in Game 2. We did our best and put plenty of marks up on the score board. They did their best and put up almost nothing but strikes. Their 5 man team scored more than 1200 points per game. Sometimes a lot more. “AJ”, their anchor, threw an 852 series; game 1 and 2 in the 275+ range, and a 300 in Game 3. A 275 game is one spare shy of a perfect 300 game. So in other words he was 2 spares away from a perfect 900 series. Holy cow. You go, AJ.

Yup, so we’re pretty much locked into dead last again this year. I like my team, but I need to bring my game up two levels, maybe 3, to be able to be anywhere close to the other guys on this league. Out of my league.

I’m going back to bed.


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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 04/17/2013 at 03:04 AM   
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calendar   Tuesday - April 16, 2013

And Away We Go

Peter King (RINO: NY) Calls For More Eyes For Big Brother

Not even 24 hours later. Not even one full day.

ANDREA MITCHELL, MSNBC: Congressman, briefly, do you think that this will lead to more cameras? I know it’s controversial, there are privacy issues. Boston does have a lot of cameras. European cities, led by London, have the most. Are Americans going to have to get used to more surveillance on a daily basis?

REP. PETER KING (R-NY): I think we do because I think privacy involves being in a private location. Being out in the street is not an expectation of privacy. Anyone can look at you, can see you, can watch what you’re doing. A camera just makes it more sophisticated, but it’s no different from your neighbor looking out the window at you or a police officer looking at you walking down the street.

So, I do think we need more cameras. We have to stay ahead of the terrorists and I do know in New York, the Lower Manhattan Security Initiative, which is based on cameras, the outstanding work that results from that. So yes, I do favor more cameras. They’re a great law enforcement method and device. And again, it keeps us ahead of the terrorists, who are constantly trying to kill us.

I hope also that members of Congress, both parties, including my own, will realize that the war against terror is not over. And it’s foolhardy to be making cuts in Homeland Security, especially to cities, whose police departments need this to train and to be ready to take on terrorism

Bull and Shit, King. Cameras record, and records can be shared. Don’t want it, don’t need it. And they haven’t done Smiddly-Widdly over there in the UK, home of Knife Violence! and Teenage Stomping Murders! So, BFD. So please STFU. MFCSPOS RINO.


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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 04/16/2013 at 04:26 PM   
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It’s about time

I got my copy of MS Office installed and got Outlook email set up properly. That took me a bit, but now it works. I have blog email again ... and I had nearly 2000 junk mails in the queue. Sheez.


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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 04/16/2013 at 01:48 PM   
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one family - boston 2013 never the same again

Even a hard line right winger like me has to feel very sorry for this family. In fact, for all the injured people hurt in Boston. And especially the dead. Like the little 8 year old boy here with his family.

His mom shown here has brain damage, and the little girl shown below has lost a leg. The dad has to be devastated and we don’t know if the mother yet knows she lost her son and the damage to her little girl.  Probably not.  But looking at the photos on line, and these in particular, and with no feeling of ill nature or politics, I just could not help but look at the kid with his peace sign and think, a young mind being molded.  A future “peace activist” in the making. Because he won’t know any better and he’ll have been taught.  Peace. Yeah.  He was much too young to understand that his sign was preaching to the choir, and it’s that choir that has made it from hard to impossible to do away with the types of people who killed him.  But those on the left will go on singing “We are the world” and preaching diversity and love to all, while the ‘all’ continue trying to kill us all. 

There have always been evil people in the world. But these days, those evil people have the know how and access to the things that cause outrages like the London Tube attack and Boston and 9/11.  Meanwhile, the hot issue with many are those unreasonable Americans who still have not closed Gitmo. 

I am not posting the entire article. Just these photos by way of example of what I mean re. Peace.  We’d all of us I think like to have that. But it won’t come with signs carried by little boys who’ve been coached by adults, always on the left.

Boston marathon bombs were pressure cooker IEDs packed with ball-bearings: Devices that killed three, including eight-year-old boy waiting for his runner dad are used by terrorists in Afghanistan

Police sources: Two pressure-cooker bombs packed with shards of metal, nails and ball bearings
Devices are frequently used in Afghanistan, India, Nepal and Pakistan, according to Homeland Security
Martin Richard, 8, and woman in 20s among three dead in the worst U.S. terror attack since September 11
176 people injured, at least 17 of them in critical condition and ‘a lot’ of amputations have been performed
Surgeons describe numerous severe injuries from ‘pellets, shrapnel or nails from inside the bombs’
Investigators do not know of motive for the bombs or who is behind them but are questioning ‘many people’
Obama vows to bring bombers to justice: ‘The American people will not be terrorized’

By Daily Mail Reporters, Daniel Bates In Dorchester, Massachusetts and Lydia Warren

READ AND SEE PHOTOS, SOURCE

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The sign reads, No more hurting people. Killers take note.

And some literary genius has painted this sign on the family drive, no doubt thinking this would make it hurt less. Believe in the sign. Yeah, sure thing.
Idiot. Whoever it was.

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Posted by peiper   United Kingdom  on 04/16/2013 at 12:51 PM   
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RIP, JONATHAN WINTERS - November 11 1925, April 11 2013

There may be some here too young to remember this guy in his prime.

Often over the top but just as often very funny as well, another icon of my yoot passes from the scene.

RIP ... JONATHAN WINTERS

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Jonathan Winters,
who has died aged 87, was a moon-faced American comedian with a remarkable gift for mimicry which he deployed in manic improvisations featuring a cast of misfit characters that ranged from delinquent old ladies to country bumpkins.

He came to notice in Britain when he played the slow-witted removal lorry driver in It’s A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (1963), an ensemble film with an all-star cast, mainly comedians and comic actors chosen for their verbal skills.

Once defined as “more intense than Bob Hope, more restless than George Burns or Jack Benny, more fleeting than Lenny Bruce or Richard Pryor”, Winters was an energetic pioneer of impromptu standup comedy in the 1950s with an outlandish line in free-form monologues.

But while he was raising laughs with his unscripted verbal flights of fancy, facial contortions and self-generated sound effects like dripping taps and rushing waterfalls, the pressure of touring led to a mental breakdown, and he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder.

Rejecting the conventional stand-up comedian’s reliance on quick-fire jokes, Winters entertained in a stream-of-consciousness style that could stray into the surreal. As well as his remarkable ear for voices and characters, he could transform the most mundane object into an instrument of mirth. On one American television show, Winters was handed a foot-long stick and became in turn a fisherman, violinist, lion tamer, canoeist, bullfighter, flautist, delusional psychiatric patient, British headmaster and Bing Crosby’s golf club. “Improvisation is about taking chances,” he would say, “and I was ready to take chances.”

Jonathan Harshman Winters was born on November 11 1925 in Dayton, Ohio. An only child in a prosperous family, whose parents divorced when he was seven, he spent much time entertaining himself. He described his father as an alcoholic, and regarded his paternal grandfather — an eccentric extrovert as well as proprietor of the local bank — as his principal influence.

At 17 Jonathan left Dayton High School, joined the Marines and served two years in the South Pacific during the Second World War. On his return he attended the Dayton Art Institute, where he developed his keen observational skills, and met and married a fellow student, Eileen Schauder.

At her suggestion, he entered a talent contest and won first prize (a wristwatch) by doing impressions of film stars. This led to a job presenting the early morning show on a Dayton radio station in which he would create characters and interview them using two voices.

Winters moved to New York where he soon made a reputation in stand-up comedy clubs. One night after a show, an old man sweeping up suggested that instead of mimicking the rich and famous, he should draw on people he knew. Within a couple of days, Winters had devised one of his most famous characters: a hard-drinking, dirty old woman called Maude Frickert, modelled in part on his own mother and an aunt.

High-profile appearances on television specials and chat shows followed and Winters soon built a following. But his career faltered in 1959 when he succumbed to depression and drink, and he burst into tears on stage at a nightclub in San Francisco. Taken into custody by police who found him climbing the rigging of an old sailing ship, and claiming he was from outer space, Winters spent eight months in a psychiatric hospital.

A turning point in his recovery was his role as the browbeaten furniture removal man Lennie Pike in the slapstick film caper It’s A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World. “I was fresh out of the hospital. I didn’t know if I was up to doing a picture such as this,” he recalled. But he took the part at his wife’s insistence, and “I finally opened up, I realised I was back, and I was in charge of myself and my mind”.

Roles in other films followed — he played two brothers in the film adaptation of Evelyn Waugh’s The Loved One in 1964 — as did further television shows, including his own. In 1981 Winters was cast in the sitcom Mork and Mindy, teamed with Robin Williams, an admirer whose own gift for off-the-wall improvisation made him the Jonathan Winters of his generation.

In later years, Winters contributed to numerous cartoons and animated films, playing three characters in the film The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle in 2000. His recent work included voicing Papa Smurf in the 2011 live action film The Smurfs, and a sequel due to be released in July.

Winters won two Grammys, and an Emmy for best supporting actor as Randy Quaid’s father in the American sitcom Davis Rules (1991). He was awarded the Kennedy Centre’s second Mark Twain Prize for Humour in 1999, a year after Richard Pryor.

As a trained artist, he often introduced humour into his pictures and sketches. Among his books was a collection of short stories called Winters’ Tales (1987).

Jonathan Winters’ wife, Eileen, died in 2009. Their two children survive him.

Jonathan Winters, born November 11 1925, died April 11 2013


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Posted by peiper   United Kingdom  on 04/16/2013 at 10:40 AM   
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Obama’s snub to Thatcher: President won’t send envoy to funeral.

Well, perhaps had Mrs. Thatcher been of another religion and or race, Mr. O might have authorized someone to represent him and the American people.

Mrs. Thatcher was a staunch ally of ours, and I damn well think it’s outrageous that an official representing the USA isn’t there.
Yes, it is good to see Reagan ppl will be there.

On the other hand, maybe Obama doesn’t want to upset or get on the bad side of the lefties here.  ?? Ya think? Whatever.  She made her mistakes but was still a great lady and the best PM since Churchill.  This generation will NOT produce ppl like either of them. Certainly not in the time I have left I’m sure.

Obama’s snub to Thatcher: President won’t send envoy to funeral - and leaves it to her old allies from the Reagan era

President Obama made decision not to send a member of his administration before yesterday’s bombings in Boston

Instead, Reagan’s former Secretary of State George Shultz, a key ally of Baroness Thatcher, will attend

Leaders from all over the world will be in attendance at the large-scale commemoration on Wednesday

By James Chapman

Friends and allies of Baroness Thatcher expressed ‘surprise and disappointment’ last night as it emerged President Obama is not planning to send any serving member of his administration to her funeral.

Whitehall sources have revealed that the US delegation at tomorrow’s service in St Paul’s Cathedral will be led by two Reagan era secretaries of state: James Baker and George Shultz.

Though President Obama himself had not been expected to attend, there had been speculation that he would be represented either by Vice President Joe Biden or wife Michelle. However, the Obama administration had said it would not be attending Thatcher’s funeral before the Boston bombings

The Queen’s decision to attend Lady Thatcher’s funeral has effectively elevated it to a state occasion unprecedented for a political figure in Britain since the death of Sir Winston Churchill in 1965.

Other world leaders, including Canada’s Stephen Harper, Mario Monti of Italy and Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk, are attending the service in person.

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Posted by peiper   United Kingdom  on 04/16/2013 at 09:50 AM   
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Police raid Boston home linked to burned Saudi student .

It’s still fairly early in places back home, but late in the afternoon here in he UK.
So, this is what came across my screen a few minutes ago. Which you may have seen already.

What a totally pointless outrage.  But what will make it worse is if they do manage to nail the right guys, and even if there is no possible doubt about guilt, the defense lawyers will be out in force spewing words of “rights” and things like,” lets not jump to wrong conclusions.” (OJ anyone?)

Then of course the usual delay after delay and all the fancy footwork as lawyers “act” out their game because everyone has a right to a defense.  Oh, and wanna bet suspects will be referred to as Mister.  Gotta show respect less one be accused of bias.

Police raid Boston home linked to burned Saudi student who was ‘acting suspiciously’ near marathon finish line after bombs that killed 3 and injured 152

Bomb squad among 20 officers combing flat, bags of evidence removed
Saudi suspect, 20, under guard in hospital after ‘acting suspiciously’ in area
Police also hunting dark skinned man with hooded dark-colored sweatshirt and backpack seen trying to get into restricted area
Speculation mounts over who could be behind the attack that left three dead
Fingers point towards either Islamic militants or right-wing extremists who chose to attack on symbolic Patriot’s Day

By Matt Blake, Katie Davies and Rachel Quigley

Detectives last night raided a home in Boston in connection with the explosions at yesterday’s marathon which killed three and injured more than 150.

Authorities are still unsure who was behind the blasts - which have been described as small, home-made devices - but have a number of leads which they are following.

Agents, including the FBI and bomb disposal officers, swooped on an apartment in the suburbs of the city after a man, said to be of Saudi origin, was arrested at the scene..

The 20-year-old suspect is under police guard in hospital, where he is being treated for burns and shrapnel wounds to his legs, after he was tackled to the ground by a civilian who believed he was acting suspiciously.

Police had said earlier on Monday that they were searching for a ‘dark-skinned or black male’ wearing a dark-colored hooded sweatshirt and a backpack in connection with the twin explosions.

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Posted by peiper   United Kingdom  on 04/16/2013 at 08:49 AM   
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WHAT WAR? IT’S LOST THANKS TO IDIOTS LIKE THESE AND THERE’S MORE OVEM IN THE WINGS

This is just one reason why the west and possibly us along with it, are losing this so called war.

Certain legal eagles and judges and those who foil the ability of the west to protect itself, should be hunted down and deleted with extreme prejudice.

This arrived from BBC news withing the last half hour.

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Human rights court blocks extradition of UK-based terror suspect to US

European court of human rights bars Haroon Aswat’s extradition on account of his severe mental illness

Owen Bowcott, legal affairs correspondent

Extraditing a UK-based terror suspect to an American “supermax” high security prison would constitute “inhuman or degrading treatment”, the European court of human rights (ECHR) has ruled.

The Strasbourg court barred the removal of Haroon Aswat, whose nationality is unknown, from Broadmoor psychiatric hospital to the US on account of his severe mental illness.

Aswat, who suffers from paranoid schizophrenia, has been indicted in the US as a co-conspirator in a plan to establish a jihad training camp in Oregon.

He was arrested in 2005 in Britain following a request from US authorities for extradition. His lawyers have resisted his removal since then in a series of appeals.

n its judgment, the court said that it had given “full consideration to the submissions of the US department of Justice … and observed, in particular, that it could not be determined with certainty in which detention facility or facilities Mr Aswat would be placed if extradited to the USA, either before or after trial.

“It was also unclear how long he might expect to remain on remand pending trial. As for his detention following a possible conviction … although Mr Aswat would have access to mental health services regardless of which prison he was be detained in, his extradition to a country where he had no ties and where he would face an uncertain future in an as yet undetermined institution, and possibly be subjected to the highly restrictive regime in ADX Florence, would violate article 3 of the convention.”

Article 3 of the European convention on human rights prohibits inhuman or degrading treatment. Last year the Strasbourg court allowed the extradition of Babar Ahmad and four other suspects to US federal supermax prisons where inmates can spend 22 or 23 hours a day in solitary confinement.

The Home Office has expressed disappointment at the court ruling.

Tuesday’s judgement does not become final for three months.

So for the hell of it and to save arguments, lets agree the goat screwing, bearded SOB is truly out of what passes for a mind.  Fuck him.  Fire when ready and make it hurt.  I don’t really care.  If someone is that far off his game, if they’re totally nuts, they are just wasting resources and are a waste of valuable time. Time people.  The one thing that does not renew itself. 
But okay. Some bleeding heart judge in Europe feels sorry for the poor boy.  He believes insanity should be treated differently, and I know he isn’t alone.
But some judges also have another view which to me is worse yet.

Like this ass wipe judge here in the UK who says .....

“Terror suspect must be allowed a normal social life.”

You couldn’t make that up. Wait, these days you could and it would be real.

Potential suicide bomber must be allowed a normal social life, rules judge, despite being named one of the country’s ‘most dangerous suspects’

Al Qaeda fanatic will be able to mingle more freely with fellow students

Man has tried to get into Afghanistan on numerous occasions for terrorism training

He also visited Olympic venues in London despite being banned

By IAN DRURY

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A judge yesterday ordered strict curbs on a potential suicide bomber to be relaxed so he could enjoy a ‘normal social life’.

Mr Justice Wilkie said the alleged Al Qaeda fanatic ought to be able to mingle more freely with students at his university to avoid his ‘embarrassment and isolation’.

The constraints on the 24-year-old Somali man – considered one of the country’s most dangerous terror suspects – were ‘chilling’ and ‘disproportionate’, he said.

His High Court ruling ordering Home Secretary Theresa May to water down the restrictions deals a serious blow to the Government’s fight against terrorism.

And it comes despite fears by the security services that the man – known as CF – will contact other Islamic extremists to plot attacks against Britain.

The decision could lead to similar challenges by other terror suspects and may fuel concerns that the judiciary is chiselling away at measures to protect the UK from jihadists.

‘CF’ is one of nine people subject to Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures (TPIM) orders, introduced last year to restrict their movements, the use of computers and who they can meet.

The suspect, who is thought to have tried to get to Afghanistan for terrorist training and of fighting for the feared al-Shabaab group in Somalia, is only allowed to mix with undergraduates when it is ‘exclusively for the purpose of studies’.

But Mr Justice Wilkie said it was difficult for CF to avoid ‘informal social contact’ at lectures or the library. ‘They [the orders] must impose a chilling effect on CF’s participation in the life of a student on this course without any, apparent, beneficial effect on national security,’ he added.

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