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Sunday Sermon

It’s Sunday and like a lot of Christians, my thoughts turn to God while I recover from my hangover (and pray to God that if he will help me get over this hangover, I will try not to do it again). Seriously, I was recently made privy to an e-mail from one of my friends as well as the heated reply he received from a member of our military. My friend asked me to help him reply to this heathen and, after three days of pondering, I finally put it all together and just e-mailed it back to him. I will now share this exchange with you in lieu of today’s sermon ....

Here is the original e-mail my friend sent out to his friends ....

Subject: THE LAW IS THE LAW

This is one of the better e-mails I have received in a long time!

I hope this makes its way around the USA several times over!!!! So Be It!

THE LAW IS THE LAW So if the US government determines that it is against the law for the words “under God” to be on our money, then, so be it.

And if that same government decides that the “Ten Commandments” are not to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it.

And since they already have prohibited any prayer in the schools, on which they deem their authority, then so be it

I say, “so be it,” because I would like to be a law abiding US citizen.

I say, “so be it,” because I would like to think that smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions.

I would like to think that those people have the American Publics’ best interests at heart.

BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I’D LIKE?

Since we can’t pray to God, can’t Trust in God and cannot Post His Commandments in Government buildings, I don’t believe the Government and it’s employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honor the God that our government is eliminating from many facets of American life.

I’d like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter. After all, it’s just another day.

I’d like the US Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter as well as Sundays. After all, it’s just another day.

I’d like the Senate and the House of Representatives to not have to worry about getting home for the “Christmas Break.” After all ~ it’s just another day

I’m thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all government offices & services would work on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter.

It shouldn’t cost any overtime since those would be just like any other day of the week to a government that is trying to be “politically correct”.

In fact .... I think that our government should work on Sundays (initially set aside for worshipping God...) because, after all, our government says that it should be just another day....

What do you all think????

If this idea gets to enough people, maybe our elected officials will stop giving in to the minority opinions and begin, once again, to represent the ‘majority’ of ALL of the American people.

SO BE IT...........

Please Dear Lord, Give us the help needed to keep you in our country!

‘Amen’ and ‘Amen’ Touché!

These are definitely things I never thought about but from now on, I will!  and I will be sure to questions those, in government, who support these changes I am one who is tired of these atheists and bleeding heart liberals who want nothing to do with our God, BUT WANT EVERY MINUTE OFF, FROM THEIR GOVERNMENT JOB, ETC.  DURING OUR “PRECIOUS HOLIDAY” TIMES.  I usually do not like to “forward” allot of stuff around in email, but this one is way to good to bury with the “delete” key.  Let’s keep it alive.  Pass it on!  Please!

David H--------

And here is the reply from a Lieutenant in the USAF at Langley AFB ....

Subject: RE: THE LAW IS THE LAW

1) The last time I checked, “under God” was never on U.S money.  I believe the phrase is “In God We Trust”.  Check your new bills you’ll find that the phrase “In God We Trust” is still on it.

2) The Ten Commandments were removed from a government installation because that installation was paid for by tax payers who are comprised of people of different faiths.  Is it too much to ask to respect their feelings as well?  Or maybe the answer is to keep the Ten Commandments and allow people of Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism to install their religious statues and icons in government buildings too?

3) Prayers are not prohibited in schools.  In fact I know lots of kids who pray individually or in groups every day in school - especially just before a test!  On the other hand, organized prayers are prohibited out of respect for those children who come from families of different faiths.  Or maybe you wouldn’t mind it so much if a Muslim teacher led your children in prayer to Allah, facing Mecca 3 times a day?

4) “..elected officials will stop giving in to the minority opinions and begin, once again, to represent the ‘majority’ of ALL of the American people”

ALL of the American people are made up of ALL different faiths.  Secondly, our American government isn’t just about ‘majority’ rule.  Our forefathers created a balance between majority rule and minority rights to “protect government from itself and the corrupting potential of power. It is in the enlightened self-interest of the majority to protect the rights of the minority because one day the majority will find itself in the minority.”

5) “I am one who is tired of these atheists and bleeding heart liberals who want nothing to do with our God”

Please don’t pass on this kind of ignorance.  Liberals with “bleeding hearts” love God too!  Perhaps some people should just consider getting ‘a heart’ and refrain from making such generalized and groundless statements that only incites others to rage.

Lt Chong H. G--------

ACC/DPI

Finally, here is my attempt to explain it all to this young Lieutenant ....

Subject: RE: RE: THE LAW IS THE LAW

1- You’re right. “Under God” does not appear on our money but it is in the Pledge Of Allegiance which is now being bitterly fought over by liberals as against the concept of “separation of church and state”. Isn’t this taking things a little too far? The founding fathers intent with the 1st Amendment was to prohibit the government from literally “establishing” a state religion like had been done in England with the Anglican Church, which was headed by the King, no less.

2- You miss the point. Posting the Ten Commandments in a judicial building is not an attempt to establish religion. It is the spirit of the Judeo-Chirstian religion that is being displayed. Do you have some sort of problem with the concepts of “Thou shalt not kill” or “Thous shalt not steal” or “Thou shalt not bear false witness”? These are good ideas and are the foundation of our legal system. The Ten Commandments are displayed all over the Supreme Court building in Washington, DC and the marble frieze on the front of the building depicts various lawgivers through history .. including Moses. Would you tear that building down also? You confuse respect for Judeo-Chirstian values with so-called “disrepect” of other religions. Au contraire! Most of the world’s other religions have the same guidelines and restrictions (as well as sharing racial memories of a “Great Flood"). How does displaying them in a Judeo-Christian content detract from other religions? And just because taxpayers from various religious groups paid for it doesn’t wash either. In our taxpayer-funded colleges, students are taking courses in Islam and Buddhism. I don’t object to that because it behooves us all to learn about other people’s worldviews.

3- Praying is indeed prohibited in schools unless one is doing it silently and no one else knows what you are doing. Christians believe in the words of Jesus Christ who said “For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.” (Matthew 18:20). Organized prayer is important to Christians, just as praying to Mecca is important to Muslims. I don’t have a problem with a Muslim student excusing him or herself from class to go pray toward Mecca five times daily. The point here is that schools should not be sterile environments where students have to leave their moral and personal beliefs at the door when they enter. Social interaction is a skill that we all develop as we grow up and learning to accomodate other people’s religions comes from being in contact with those people when they are practicing their religion. That is how tolerance is established, not by banning all contact between religious groups just because they are on “public ground”.

4- According to the 2000 Census, approximately 76.5% of the American population is Christian. Only 0.5% is Muslim and other religions are all in single-digits or less. The last time I checked, 76.5% is not just a majority but a quorum. Yes, there are other religions and their followers are neither targeted or prohibited in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER from practicing their religion. I know of no single piece of legislation in our recent history that denied a religious group the right to follow their religion any way they felt (unless you count the Mormon belief in multiple wives which the US legislature said was a “no-no” long ago). So how exactly are the rights of minority religious groups being inhibited? The answer is: they are not. What you are attempting to prohibit is their “exposure” to people with another religion, namely Christians - who by the way are 76.5% of the people in this country. Would you move to Jerusalem and complain that all those Jews worshiping in public offended you? Would you move to India and complain that all those Hindus reading the Bhagvat Gita in public offended you? Both countries are democracies with pretty much the same rules as we have here in the US. The point is that minorities gain absolutely nothing by complaining about groups that are in the majority unless those majority groups are somehow oppressing the minorities and, as I said above, no Christian is espousing any sort of oppression or suppression of Islam, Buddhism, Taoism or even atheism. It would be nice if we all agreed on the same God but if my neighbor down the street feels the need to call God “Allah” or “The Great Spirit”, then so be it. The only time which one of us is right becomes important occurs right after we die .. and no one has yet to find a way to come back and tell the rest of us which is correct.

5- Fact: “atheists” and “bleeding heart liberals” have been responsible for most of the recent attacks on Christians. We are not enraged (yet) at these attacks because as Christians we think we can reason with these people and teach them to “live and let live”. This is not “ignorance” as you so kindly state. It is a wish for tolerance of the majority by the minority. You develop rage at our insistence on dialogue to sort this problem out in a reasonable manner. If “liberals with bleeding hearts” love God so much, why be afraid to show it? If atheists love the thought of believing in nothing, why are they offended by my belief in a loving and caring God?

Your whole argument stems from many misconceptions but mainly from a desire to sterilize society of religion. Religion practiced in secret creates an environment where faith and belief are considered “bad things”. This is totally wrong. Religion, faith and belief are what gets us all through the dark times of life. HOW we practice those beliefs is not as important as the fact that we do practice them at all. Religion is part of our social fabric and serves to bind us together in a common belief that there is something better than all of us in charge of things. To order the people’s government to turn its back on the religion of the majority of “the people” is disingenuous at best. There is nothing wrong with the “government of the people, by the people and for the people” incorporating a religious group’s beliefs in its laws as long as they apply to all of its “people” fairly. Oppression of the minorities is not and never has been the issue when it comes to religion. It’s really all about twisting the meaning of the Constitution and our laws to suit the wishes of a small minority, isn’t it?

I have a better solution to our “problem”. Instead of tearing down all references to Judeo-Christian beliefs like the Ten Commandments, why not display them .. alongside similar tenets and beliefs from other religions. There are many very good life lessons and guidelines in the Koran, the teachings of Buddha and other religious works. They all share one thing in common though: the desire for all the peoples of the Earth to just get along with each other .. peacefully. So quieten your rage and learn a little tolerance, my friend. God (whoever he or she is) requires nothing less from all of us.

Peace. Love.

Allan

Now, tell me .... what do you think ....


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