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just what we always needed. a kosher taliban.

Whodda thought a Jewish cult or sect, I call em a group of 18th century idiots,
would turn themselves in to the Taliban.

You’d think they would have enough sense to keep their head under the parapets, especially with the stupid looking dress they wear. I mean come on, look at this guys hat.  I’d be curious to know exactly where in Jewish scripture, it says the men have to look like damn fools.  And they do.  Just what the fuck we need in today’s world.  Like Jews don’t have enough problems to deal with, along comes a kosher Taliban.
What next?  I suppose at least they aren’t 5th century. But hell, these jerks aren’t even 20th yet.  I understand this edict is the order of a smallish group within the Hasidic sect.  I know they don’t represent anyone but themselves.  However … sorry folks.
I find them embarrassing in the extreme. 

I read this only today in the iNews, which I failed to find on line for this story. So my source became a place I never heard of before after a Google search. It adds a lot more than did the article I read. 

Just to give you some idea besides this issue, here’s something from the comments section which I saw reported on TV years before the Daily Beast article in 2012 that is quoted here.

Consistently in New York state, where Hasidim cluster, the departing party (male or female) who is going “off the derech (path),” loses both custody and visitation with their children, in order not to confuse them by living in households with two different practices. Members of the community will show up to support the spouse remaining in the community and rumors spread about the terrible behavior of the one departing.  Usually, they’re considered unstable, crazy, and if a woman, whorish.  There have been some notorious metal breakdowns and suicides among those who leave, due to the treatment from the community.
Judges in New York are elected and Hasidim are generally monolithic voting blocs, voting as directed by their Rebbes.  Consequently, judges tend to be in the pockets of the Hasidim.
Women can get away without driving in NY Hasidic communities because a. Families usually live within walking distance of the school and b.  NYC has great public transportation.
Lastly, most husbands don’t have to worry about getting into trouble for not getting to work on time because they’re transporting their children because THEY DON’T WORK.

From a 2012 Daily Beast article:

Take the overwhelmingly Hasidic Kiryas Joel, the poorest place in America. As the Times reported last year, “half of [its] residents receive food stamps, and one third receive Medicaid benefits and rely on federal vouchers to help pay their housing costs.” And boy, do they have children: The median household in Kiryas Joel has six people, and the median age is twelve. Many of its men learn Torah full-time instead of working, and the community’s low high-school graduation rate would be even lower if its religious schools had real academic standards. These kids are hardly being “socialized to the world of work.” And it’s not just Kiryas Joel: back in 1996, at the heart of “welfare reform,” a full third of Williamsburg’s Hasidim received public assistance.

And there is this.

The Israel-based leader of the sect, Yissachar Dov Rokeach, caused another upset last year when he reminded his women followers that they must shave their heads in accordance with its religious requirements, that any food prepared by a woman without a shaved head is not kosher and that they must not wear noisy shoes. If these requirements are taught in the sect’s schools, it will be interesting to see how the Ofsted Inspectors reconcile this with preparing the students “for life in modern Britain”.

London: Hasidic Jewish Sect Bars Women Driving

Rabbis of the Hasidic Jewish sect Belz in part of north London have instructed women that they must not drive as this breaches the “the traditional rules of modesty in our camp”.

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A letter sent to the community warns that children driven to school by their mothers will be turned away.

The letter, which was signed by Belz educational leaders and endorsed by rabbis, also said women could be banned from their schools if their mothers drove them from August onwards.

It cited increasing numbers of “mothers of pupils who have started to drive” which it said had led to “great resentment among parents of pupils of our institutions”.

Stamford Hill’s residents are predominately Hasidic Jewish and only New York is believed to have a larger community of Hasidic Jews outside of Israel.

Many of London’s Jewish community are descendants of those fleeing progroms and state repression from the 19th century onwards. Arriving poor, they followed other groups of refugees in establishing communities around the docks in East London.

Like the Hugenots (French Protestants) they followed, many prospered and moved to more pleasant parts of London, especially to the north west in areas like Golders Green and Stamford Hill. The trend continues with many less religious Jews moving further to the outer suburbs and Essex, to the east of London. For the more observant, the area of NW London provided a place where the community could cohere.

Several eruvs have been set up to enable more activities, like pushing wheelchairs, to occur outside the home on the Sabbath. A number of Jewish schools, both private and part publicly funded serve the community. 

Stamford Hill is, well, hilly. It is built on part of the escarpment of the Thames’ river valley and as such is quite steep. For mothers with large families, the use of a car eases the burden of taking children to school, especially if the children’s ages mean they go to several different schools or nurseries (kindergarten) or to separate boys’ and girls’ schools. The rabbis’ order has therefore proved controversial:

Dina Brawer, UK Ambassador of the Jewish Orthodox Feminist Alliance, said that “the instinct behind such a draconian ban is one of power and control, of men over women. In this sense it is no different from the driving ban on women in Saudi Arabia. That it masquerades as a halachic imperative is shameful and disturbing.”

While many Chasidic women do not drive, this is thought to be the first formal declaration against the practice in the UK.

One local woman said that the policy “disables women. The more kids they have, the more they need to drive.” But she believed that some women would take no notice of the policy. “They say one thing, they do another,” she said.

The Belz, who originated in Ukraine in the early 18th century, are one of the most prominent Hasidic sects and re-established their headquarters in Israel after the war. When its leader’s grandson celebrated his wedding in Israel two years ago, some 25,000 guests attended.

It is not the first time the Jewish community in Stamford Hill has caused controversy. In September last year posters put up by a Jewish group for a religious parade warning women to only walk on one side of the road were removed by Hackney council after they were deemed “unacceptable”

This is a very, very, very long article with lots of background info if interested at the link.
I would recommend the comments section where there are some interesting comments.

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