Saturday - March 13, 2010

‘I’m proud of using waterboarding to break terrorists,’ says Karl Rove

I missed taking my blood pressure meds this morning. Everything has me PO’d. I wanted to start and end today with my usual wkend ladies when I ran across a couple of things that had me seeing my usual color (RED) which isn’t even my favorite color.  I am so damn tired of reading and hearing about how my country has it wrong and how we have become barbaric all because of water boarding and Gitmo etc. Then one columnist wrote about how maybe the Brit’s American cousins aren’t really that after all.  Hey fuckin hey.  I have very close friends among Brits and ain’t one of em a cousin. I’m tired of that phrase too. What god damn cousin?  Who made us that? Did we ever ask to be your cousins? If so, I’m not aware of it. Oh and btw freeken way I HATE one professional liberal phony cousin I haven’t seen since a funeral 30 yrs ago. I wouldn’t know the other three if I fell over em.

Below are two comments posted with regard to the Rove article that started things this morning. Naturally enough I side with Mr. Rove. I have no problem with whatever our people had to do, to get information from terrorist scum.  It pisses me off greatly that our critics simply take for granted that we are in the wrong.
It’s done without question.  It’s automatic we’re all Nazi killers who enjoy our work and all for oil or heaven knows what the hell else.
A jackass named Peter Oborne (?whoever the hell he is?) yesterday wrote about our ‘special relationship’ being broken yadda,yadda. He went on to term the USA as “immoral” while all those empty headed lefty umin rights jerks went on about torture as well.

Why is the way in which we defend our country the business of anyone outside our country anyway?  And how can they be certain that the information gathered won’t save their lives as well?  In his column Oborne says, For years I’ve been a passionate admirer of the U.S. But recent events force me to ask: is it time to ditch our strongest ally? Here’s some more.

For evidence is growing that the U.S. can no longer be regarded as a loyal or trustworthy friend of Britain.

Even more worryingly, it’s no longer clear that Barack Obama’s administration represents the decent and humane values of which Britain has long been so proud.

As a result, standing by the traditional transatlantic alliance is beginning to be damaging to our reputation overseas and to our national interest.

For example, consider the appalling revelations contained in this week’s speech to the House of Lords by the former MI5 spy chief Elizabeth Manningham-Buller.

Dame Elizabeth shockingly disclosed that U.S. officials had deceived Britain over their use of torture following their capture of the Al Qaeda commander Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in 2003.

She said that when she asked why he was talking so freely to his captors, she was cynically told he was boasting because he was proud of what he’d done.

So that gives you some background on the column he wrote. You get the drift.  And the grand dame Liz was shocked about our treatment of one of the masterminds of 9/11. Well fuck her and I’m sorry nobody in her family or Obornes was in either of those towers.  And I am sick and fuckin tired of our country having demands made upon it, that we live UP to whatever standards some other country finds favor with.  Demands we alter how we do things in our country to fall in line with how things are done elsewhere.  Hey Mr. Assborne, when were you elected to office in my country? Fuck off!  Don’t visit. We don’t need you or your opinions.  And Dame Lizzy can go back to her kitchen and do other things.

These comments below were made following the article on Karl Rove. We do have our defenders but alas the feeling I have is that they are not in a majority.

Pity that the American goverment didn’t back up the British Army in its fight against Republican terrorists, instead we were forced by American pressure into accepting these terrorists into government.

I don’t trust these internationalist neo-cons one iota, men like Karl Rove care nothing about the British national interest, all he cares about, is forwarding the dollar empire, the New World Order of global capitalism and anarchic social agendas both of which destroy Nation States.
- Stephen Glover, Manchester, 12/3/2010 14:58

Now there is a man with guts and determination, not like our own lot, whimps. These terrorists have no consciences, they just kill for the sake of it and love it. Even so, they are cunning enough to use the human rights shield of protection, and the stupid human rights bigots are fooled by it too. The victims of murder and disablement have nobody to protect them like these terrorists do. Now will somebody tell us who is sane or insane in all of this. Treat the terrorists in the same way they treat their victims, an eye for an eye simple, Well done that man..
- DANNYBOY, LINCOLN UK FOR NOW, 12/3/2010 14:51

‘I’m proud of using waterboarding to break terrorists,’ declares Bush’s top political adviser
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER

George W Bush’s top political adviser has said he was ‘proud’ of controversial techniques such as waterboarding, which he claimed broke the will of terrorist.

Karl Rove - known as the former president’s ‘brain’ - said he did not believe that the interrogation method amounted to torture.

In an interview with the BBC, he claimed that waterboarding - which simulates drowning - had helped prevent terrorist attacks.

‘I’m proud that we used techniques that broke the will of these terrorists and gave us valuable information that allowed us to foil plots,’ he said. 

‘I am proud that we kept the world safer than it was by the use of these techniques. They are appropriate, they are in conformity with our international requirements and with US law.’

Asked if he believed waterboarding was torture, he said: ‘No, it’s not. People need to read the memos that outline what was permissible and not permissible before they make a judgement about these things.’

‘Every one of the people who were waterboarded had a doctor who had to ascertain that there had been no long-lasting physical or mental damage to the individual,’ he said.

The senior Republican aide and Bush’s deputy chief of staff said in the Newsnight interview that subjects had told they would not drown before they underwent the procedure.

He insisted terror plots had been prevented by the tough interrogation, citing flying planes into Heathrow and London, bringing down aircraft over the Pacific and flying an aircraft into the tallest tower in Los Angeles.

The rest of the article is here at the SOURCE

Posted by peiper     on 03/13/2010 at 08:31 AM   
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