Wednesday - April 22, 2009
I was right of course
Ah, the sweet sweet taste of validation. I knew my brain wasn’t completely fried yet, but it’s nice to have some proof.
From: Drew Pearce
To: rules “at” bowl.com
Date: 04/20/2009 03:25 PM
Subject: Rule 110c questionsDear USBC
Is it impossible for teams with vacancies to forfeit by not showing up?
Our league allows for forfeits. We use the Earn The Points method when a forfeit occurs. As league secretary, I consider a team to have forfeited when a) none of the people on that team show up to bowl and b) nobody on that team has prebowled for the night and c) nobody called either the alley or any of our officers to say they wouldn’t be coming in and asked for a postponement.
We are a struggling league, and I’m trying to be flexible: if even one person shows up or prebowls, that’s good enough for me for a starting lineup.
Our league allows teams to have vacancies. We have only one team with vacancies, but that team has two of them. Our bylaw for vacancies appears to consider them part of the team, at least for “legal lineup”: “A legal lineup shall consist of two regular bowlers. A vacancy is considered a regular bowler.” Since we actually have 4 members per team, I guess this bylaw is talking about a starting lineup? It seems a bit vague.
There is an opinion, held by our president and vice-president, that a team with one or more vacant members can never forfeit by absence, because the vacant “people” are “always there”. But if a team has a full roster of human members, they can forfeit by not showing up. This seems very wrong to me, because the rules are not equally applied.
I guess their reasoning is that with multiple vacancies, both are “regular bowlers” and thus this team never has a no-show, even when the human members are absent?
please help!
sincerely,
Andrew Pearce
Secretary, league #845145
This is in response to your e-mail.
According to USBC Rule 105, vacancy or absentee scores may only be used when a legal lineup is present. A vacancy is not a bowler, cannot be counted toward the legal lineup.
Legal lineup is based on the playing strength of the league, not the number of players on the roster (see USBC Rule 109a). Rule 109a states the minimum legal lineup must be present before the completion of the first frame of any game of a series, unless the league rules adopt another frame.
Rule 109a also allows the league to adopt a legal lineup to be one eligible player when the playing strength is four however the legal lineup rule must be consistent for all teams and is based on playing strength not the number of players on the roster.
Feel free to contact us should you have additional questions regarding this matter by replying to this e-mail.
Sincerely,
Kathy Andersen
Senior Rules Counselor
I’ll try not to be petty and crow about this. IN YOUR FACE, RATBAG!! So I’ll just post this email for educational purposes. A vacancy is not a regular bowler and does NOT count towards the legal lineup. Which means that if your people don’t show up, you forfeit. And any bylaws written that say otherwise are invalid. Are we are clear on this now? Good. Thank you.
Nyaa nyaa, nyaa nyaa nyaa!!!! Pffbbttt!!!! Neener, neener neener!!!
Posted by Drew458
on 04/22/2009 at 11:53 AM
Filed Under: • Bowling Blogging •
• Comments (0)
•
Trackbacks(0)
Permalink • Five Most Recent Trackbacks:
Once Again, The One And Only Post
(4 total trackbacks)
Tracked at iHaan.org
Thｅ advantage to having a guide with you is thɑt an expert will haѵe very first hand experience dealing and navigating the river with гegional wildlife. Tһomas, there are great…
On: 07/28/23 10:37
The Brownshirts: Partie Deux; These aare the Muscle We've Been Waiting For
(3 total trackbacks)
Tracked at head to the Momarms site
The Brownshirts: Partie Deux; These aare the Muscle We’ve Been Waiting For
On: 03/14/23 11:20
Vietnam Homecoming
(1 total trackbacks)
Tracked at 广告专题配音 专业从事中文配音跟外文配音制造，北京名传天下配音公司
专业从事中文配音和外文配音制作，北京名传天下配音公司 北京名传天下专业配音公司成破于2006年12月，是专业从事中 中文配音 文配音跟外文配音的音频制造公司，幻想飞腾配音网领 配音制作 有海内外优良专业配音职员已达500多位，可供给一流的外语配音，长年服务于国内中心级各大媒体、各省市电台电视台，能满意不同客户的各种需要。电话：010-83265555 北京名传天下专业配音公司…
On: 03/20/21 07:00
meaningless marching orders for a thousand travellers ... strife ahead ..
(1 total trackbacks)
Tracked at Casual Blog
[...] RTS. IF ANYTHING ON THIS WEBSITE IS CONSTRUED AS BEING CONTRARY TO THE LAWS APPL [...]
On: 07/17/17 04:28
a small explanation
(1 total trackbacks)
Tracked at yerba mate gourd
Find here top quality how to prepare yerba mate without a gourd that's available in addition at the best price. Get it now!
On: 07/09/17 03:07
DISCLAIMER
THE SERVICES AND MATERIALS ON THIS WEBSITE ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" AND THE HOSTS OF THIS SITE EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ANY AND ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO WARRANTIES OF SATISFACTORY QUALITY, MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, WITH RESPECT TO THE SERVICE OR ANY MATERIALS.
Not that very many people ever read this far down, but this blog was the creation of Allan Kelly and his friend Vilmar. Vilmar moved on to his own blog some time ago, and Allan ran this place alone until his sudden and unexpected death partway through 2006. We all miss him. A lot. Even though he is gone this site will always still be more than a little bit his. We who are left to carry on the BMEWS tradition owe him a great debt of gratitude, and we hope to be able to pay that back by following his last advice to us all:
It's been a long strange trip without you Skipper, but thanks for pointing us in the right direction and giving us a swift kick in the behind to get us going. Keep lookin' down on us, will ya? Thanks.
- Keep a firm grasp of Right and Wrong
- Stay involved with government on every level and don't let those bastards get away with a thing
- Use every legal means to defend yourself in the event of real internal trouble, and, most importantly:
- Keep talking to each other, whether here or elsewhere
THE INFORMATION AND OTHER CONTENTS OF THIS WEBSITE ARE DESIGNED TO COMPLY WITH THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THIS WEBSITE SHALL BE GOVERNED BY AND CONSTRUED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ALL PARTIES IRREVOCABLY SUBMIT TO THE JURISDICTION OF THE AMERICAN COURTS. IF ANYTHING ON THIS WEBSITE IS CONSTRUED AS BEING CONTRARY TO THE LAWS APPLICABLE IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY, THEN THIS WEBSITE IS NOT INTENDED TO BE ACCESSED BY PERSONS FROM THAT COUNTRY AND ANY PERSONS WHO ARE SUBJECT TO SUCH LAWS SHALL NOT BE ENTITLED TO USE OUR SERVICES UNLESS THEY CAN SATISFY US THAT SUCH USE WOULD BE LAWFUL.
Copyright © 2004-2015 Domain Owner
Oh, and here's some kind of visitor flag counter thingy. Hey, all the cool blogs have one, so I should too. The Visitors Online thingy up at the top doesn't count anything, but it looks neat. It had better, since I paid actual money for it.
RSS 2.0 
Atom 
