Wednesday - June 20, 2012

employers do not have an automatic right to sack bad workers.  figures.

For those not familiar with Brit political parties.
Lib/Dem is Liberal Democrats.  Yup, they are leftists and are part of the coalition govt. here. The other part are Tories who are supposed to be conservatives. Many of them are.  The PM (Prime Minister) is David Cameron, often referred to as conservative lite. Well I guess compared to Lib/Dems he is conservative.
Anyway, the argument has been whether or not an employer has a right to sack a useless employee. Well, the Lib/Dems don’t believe so. Of course they wouldn’t.  Just to give you an example and I know this because I was told by the guy directly involved.

Some years ago we used to send laundry out to be cleaned. The mil was still alive and so there was just a lot of extra work avoided by having a laundry pick up and deliver.  We got to know the owner a bit and during a conversation he told us about a woman who had been working for him.  He caught her red handed stealing and sacked her.  Now in a normal and logical non socialist setting, you’d think that would be the end of it. Wouldn’t you? Of course, this isn’t exactly a normal setting nor is it logical.  Squatters rights and traveller/gypsies rights trump land and home owner rights as our regulars here have learned over time.

So, the woman who was stealing went to a labor tribunal or some kind of hearing, it’s been awhile so I don’t recall what it was called. But the end result was that he ended up PAYING HER and boy oh boy was he ever pissed off.  Just telling us about it turned his face red.
He sacked her alright but he failed to inform her of exactly why.  There was some loophole and I just can’t remember what he said he’d failed at. But he ended up losing more money.

LibDems kill off ‘no fault’ right to sack

Liberal Democrat ministers have killed off David Cameron’s plans to give employers an automatic right to sack bad workers.

Lib Dem Employment Minister Norman Lamb claimed yesterday there has been no ¿clamour¿ from business for no-fault dismissal

Instead, new laws will allow firms to offer a voluntary pay-off without strings to lazy, incompetent or disruptive employees.

The plan for ‘no-fault dismissal’ was a key plank of the report on employment red tape drawn up at the Prime Minister’s request by venture capitalist Adrian Beecroft.

The report said that unfair dismissal laws which tied the hands of managers and small businesses have stifled economic growth. Under the

Beecroft plan firms would have been able to order a poor worker to go in return for a compensation cheque handed over without negotiation.

But Lib Dem Employment Minister Norman Lamb claimed yesterday there has been no ‘clamour’ from business for no-fault dismissal.

Clauses of the Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Bill to be published today will contain no mention of it, but will include regulations on ‘fast-track settlements’ meant to allow unwanted workers to leave voluntarily.

Under the system, a business would tell an unsatisfactory worker that their job was at risk, and offer them a payment to go. The employee could refuse the offer, but would then face the sack under the longer disciplinary processes currently set out in law.

If they took the deal they could not then go to a tribunal to try to get compensation. However, they would not suffer the ‘stigma’ of the sack and will be able to look for a new job without a stain on their record.

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Posted by peiper     on 06/20/2012 at 03:09 PM   
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