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Which Is It: Guest Worker Or Criminal?

 
 


Posted by The Skipper    United States   on 03/28/2006 at 09:41 AM   
 
  1. To our politicians they’re not guest workers nor criminals. For Republicans, they’re extremely cheap labor. For Democrats, they’re extremely cheap votes.

    downer

    Posted by Jester    United States   03/28/2006  at  10:12 AM  

  2. finger dummycrats and gopissers!

    THEY ARE FUCKING CRIMINALS!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by OLDCATMAN    United States   03/28/2006  at  10:49 AM  

  3. They’re here ILLEGALY! ergo, they are criminals, or as Jay Severin calls them, crimaliens. QED.

    Round ‘em up, chip ‘em, and send ‘em back home.

    Posted by Rat Patrol    United States   03/28/2006  at  12:27 PM  

  4. Borders, Language, Culture.

    Posted by Rat Patrol    United States   03/28/2006  at  12:30 PM  

  5. who ya gonna call? tune “DAYGO BUSTERS” tune  LOL

    Posted by bulldog    United Kingdom   03/28/2006  at  01:00 PM  

  6. Over there they’re “Daygos”, Over here they’re “wetbacks” (and worse).  It took me some time to figure why Monty Python used endearing terms for Italians, when referring to Spaniards… Like Manuel the “Wop Waiter” in Fawlty Towers, etc.

    Posted by Rat Patrol    United States   03/28/2006  at  01:37 PM  

  7. My only question is why isn’t INS at these protests?!?  We could put a dent in the 12 million or so “illegals” and deport them.

    Posted by itismedavid    United States   03/28/2006  at  02:37 PM  

  8. uzi Ah, here in Flori-duh, burglar comes in the house, you assume it’s robbery shoot burglar (prefeablely DOS), then call the police to have the burglar’s body removed. I got sidetracked what was the quetion?  cool smile

    Posted by The Fatman    United States   03/28/2006  at  03:43 PM  

  9. All comparisons break down eventually.  They’re not burglars, here to rob and carry the loot back home to Mexico.  We’re a victim of our own success and the illegal part is their being here. Which is a compliment, altho one we could do without.

    The obvious problem—they’ve reached a large enough number that the politicians are aware of the “Hispanic Vote”.  The legal ones, who are a significant number and have as much right to be here as you do.

    Posted by Oink    United States   03/28/2006  at  04:32 PM  

  10. “Not here to rob and carry the loot back to Mexico”?

    Oink, wake up and smell the coffee. They pay no income taxes, contribute nothing to social security funds and send 70% of what they make back home to Mexico. The wire transfer business between here and Mexico is booming. The “loot” is flowing out of the US. In adddition, they can go get free medical care at any emergency room in the country without paying a dime (hospital requirement to care for the indigent). Their children get free education at public schools.

    ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? IF THAT’S NOT BURGLARY ON A GRAND SCALE THEN WHAT IS?

    DAMN! DOESN’T ANYBODY GET IT? WE’RE BEING ROBBED!

    banghead

    Posted by The Skipper    United States   03/28/2006  at  05:08 PM  

  11. Tell me about it.

    When i worked at Portillo’s (a restaurant chain in the Chicago area), there were several guys that I worked with that on pay day were at the nearby currency exchange, cashing their checks and wiring money back home (presumably to Mexico).  The majority of the kitchen crew was Mexican, as well as the crew chiefs (basically the go between for the worker bees and the managers, although they had been there for a while and spoke English well enough).  The only non-hispanics where the cashiers.

    I say it’s high time that we get them out of here.  No blanket amnesty.

    Posted by U2warrior05    United States   03/28/2006  at  06:32 PM  

  12. They do not have SS & Fed Income Tax deducted from their paychecks?
    They do not spend some of their income in the US?
    Not quite on the order of grand theft.

    However, minus the rancor, I agree that we gotta start enforcing our immigration laws! If you are here illegally we send you home. What’s so conceptually difficult or inhuman about that?

    Posted by Oink    United States   03/28/2006  at  06:39 PM  

  13. As long as illegal immigrants continue to be such a value on both the Right and Left side of the political isle, they’ll be here to stay regardless of what we the people have to say.

    downer

    Posted by Jester    United States   03/28/2006  at  07:29 PM  

  14. Apparently, one can only eMail 9 Senators at a time - below is my letter - Specter was the first recipient - the rest of the R Sens & R Congresspersons will be recieving the same in the days ahead ........................

    ~~~~~

    Ladies and Gentlemen;
    I must say, the collective lack of intestinal fortitude among our “elected representatives” is underwhelming.
    The choice to throw our porous borders open ever further, to reward those who break the most basic of our laws of sovereignty, and to expect that we, the American taxpayers, will accept your decisions with nary a whimper, just proves how out of touch you all are, within the Beltway.
    I don’t understand your arrogant attitudes; I’ve never been one to be particularly active politically, but rest assured – wherever my voice can be heard, I will raise it against those of you who vote for these sellouts of our Nation, and I shall wholeheartedly support those who vote against them.
    I have a friend, who’s husband just told her he wants a divorce; she’s a 50 year old woman, who is disabled due to having served honorably in the U.S. military for 20+ years – she is at the point where she will have to find work – just who do you think will hire her, at a living wage, when they can hire an illegal for half the price, or less?
    I have been unable to find gainful employment for almost 4 years; fortunately for me, my husband is employable in a very specialized field.
    Your support of amnesty for illegal aliens flies in the face of every person who comes to this country legally, and to those of us who can document our ancestors’ legal immigration here.
    Unfortunately, it appears the 109th Congress of these United States is prepared to throw away our future with both hands. 
    Senator Specter, you make me ashamed to claim Pennsylvania as my home – you, Sir, are an abomination as a U.S. Senator.  At one time, as a lawyer in Pennsylvania, you had ethics you lived by, unlike either of the Senators from Massachusetts.  I’m truly disappointed to find that ethics are sacrificed, by someone I once respected, on the altar of political expediency.
    Sincerely and
    Semper Fidelis
    Mary Leverett

    Posted by Diamond Mair    United States   03/28/2006  at  07:40 PM  

  15. I would SWAG that most of these so-called “guest workers” who actually work, get paid under the table, cash, no traceable paperwork, no taxes, no deductions. The rest of the “guests” are firmly latched onto the welfare teat, getting the free ride on the gravy train, (remember the line from West Side Story “everything is free in America")?And, no, it’s not onmy Mexicans. Around here, the latest invader du jour are Brazilians. Up in Maine (where black folk were until recently a very uncommon sight), the city of Lewiston has become Little Somalia, and Maine has declared itself as an “Amnesty State, where any and all are welcome.

    With 12 million illegals already having streamed over the borders, and another few thousand every day, there is bound to be a certain percentage of the OTMs from the middle East who aren’t coming here with our best interests in mind (read that Terrorists and their sympathizers).

    November is Mid-Term Elections, and Congress faces re-election every two years, and the Senate every six years. So now, it’s time to Flush The Toilet, and un-elect all those congresscreeps who do not atand firm against illegal immigration, and the majority of the third of the Senate who is up for re-election this year. Flush The Toilet, Never Re-elect Anybody, clean house…

    Posted by Rat Patrol    United States   03/29/2006  at  07:58 AM  

  16. Employers are not reporting salaries, FICA, etc?

    Have any of you seen the suspected list of employers who use illegals?

    More reputable companies than fly by nights---------forget their “imigration crimes” BUST THEM for tax violations!

    DO YOU DO BUSINESS WITH ANY OF THESE COMPANIES??

    http://www.wehirealiens.com/

    Posted by OLDCATMAN    United States   03/29/2006  at  10:07 AM  

  17. Similar to enforcing drug laws—It’s very difficult to separate people who want jobs from those who want to hire them.

    Posted by Oink    United States   03/29/2006  at  10:25 AM  

  18. We have 3% unemployment already in Florida.  How many do you want to deport?

    A War Economy is a GOOD economy.

    Posted by Z Woof    United States   03/29/2006  at  03:16 PM  

  19. 3%.............somewhere in those totals that make up the average, are areas (in Florida or anywhere) where the rate could be 50%................

    Averages are not valid.

    Posted by OLDCATMAN    United States   03/29/2006  at  03:28 PM  

  20. 3% is essentially the same as full employment.  The Gulf War expenditures, compared to the U.S. GDP, is a sparrow-fart in a hurricane. That does NOT MEAN it’s unimportant.

    OCM: Right. All economic indicators are of this nature, and consequently to be regarded as general indicators.  The long-term trend is more important.

    Posted by Oink    United States   03/29/2006  at  03:49 PM  

  21. How do “they” get the “unemployed” number in their average?

    I suspect this is a guestimated number, therefore, corrupting the 3% number.

    Tooooooooooo serious (but interesting!)..... cat  cowboy

    Posted by OLDCATMAN    United States   03/29/2006  at  04:14 PM  

  22. One thing they use is unemployment claims, with special attention to new claims, and those seeking work. This does neglect those who’ve given up on finding work.  Otherwise, I don’t know much about it:  farm & non-farm payroll is considered AND it is seasonally adjusted.  Like the “average temperature” in California it can be misleading, but it gives a good notion of freezing vs. burning up. 

    When I was a broker, the stock market was continually responding to glitches, snowstorms, months with fewer days in them, etc. Like the “cost of living”—how do you get a single number that’s representative?  NOT PERFECT IS NOT EQUAL TO USELESS.

    So, look at trend lines, and refuse to put too much credence in the latest numbers.

    Posted by Oink    United States   03/29/2006  at  04:38 PM  

  23. I reported two of my former employers that I suspected of hiring illegals. 

    It’s not that I have anything against them (I left the both of them on good terms), it’s just that they’re doing something illegal (or I suspect them of doing something illegal), and they need to be looked into by ICE and/or the FBI and possibly punished.

    Posted by U2warrior05    United States   03/29/2006  at  05:44 PM  

  24. It’s the mental health care professionals that are stealing us blind.  If one of these creeps gets his hands on an over-weight Medicaid babe hez in the money, big time.

    Trend lines?  Medicare doubles in cost every 5 years. So how much is Medicare and Medicaid going to cost in 20 years after half of all Baby Boomers have climbed on board?

    I don’t think our grandchildren will go crazy if we double up their taxes, do you question

    The government is the last place to look for solutions, not the first.

    Less Government / More Freedom

    Posted by Z Woof    United States   03/29/2006  at  06:33 PM  

  25. Gooooooooooood am.

    Healthcare costs are going up because the entities that “supply” healthcare (general supplies, salaries, etc.) keep increasing their costs; and of course, folks are living longer and healthier.

    Maybe if WE didn’t spend so damn much $$ subsidizing wars and other countries, we wouldn’t worry so much about OUR OWN healthcare costs.

    Posted by OLDCATMAN    United States   03/30/2006  at  08:40 AM  

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