The Taxman
The kinks to, http://kinks.it.rit.edu/ go to song lyrics number394 (sunny afternoon), mind you its after the taxman has been
you waite till the olmpics, then the whole world can have a largf, im all ready paying for it, my poll tax just went up,LBJ has no pension,were doooomed doooomed ill tell yer,
dads army cica 1970, what we need to do is just get some ausie pir piro pirotec firework guys in and hide behind the smoke, taxpayers money spent at its best, its not all doom n gloom skipper we still have our imigrants and they are having a good time, ken is makeing sure of that, in london anyway,free party time
what boat you going on LBJ? i would leave to but one thing worries me 
fly man fly 
http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/sexpistols/frigginintheriggin.html this ship aint sinking
skipper,
You do know, don’t you, the governments is never going to say, “STOP! We have enough of you money!”?
What more to say? Sorry the my picture shows $$ signs—same idea.Posted by Oink
03/19/2006 at 07:19 PM
Actually OCM we supply a lot of the US gasoline needs. The Oil from the North sea is particularly rich in the lighter fractions compared to the sludge from Saudi Arabia.
However you are correct in your assumption that it’s socialism that is too blame.In parts of Britain 70% of the adult population now receives 100% of their income from HM Government. We have the worst incidence of teen pregnancy in Europe and of course it goes without saying that they all get welfare. We have hospitals full of failed asylum seekers and other illegals getting treated for free. The hospitals dare not withdraw treatment lest the deadbeats wheel in their lawyers (paid for out of legal aid of course) to threaten them with the human rights act.
The last time Labour were in the driving seat Britain was run into the ground by the socialists and had to go and beg for money from the IMF. This time they have inherited a stronger economy but typical of the tax and spend mentality they have tripled the budget for the national health system. The result? It’s even worse because all that happened was they hired thousands of non productive bureaucrats. The local authorities now hire lesbian and gay outreach counsellors and other non productive numbskulls all paid for by taxes and all entitled to an index linked pension.
However there is a method in their madness. After all if the government is paying your wages are you more or less likely to vote them out of office? Turkeys and Christmas again. Me I am voting with my feet!
OCM we are both in the same boat. The thing is most Americans I know think of Democrats as pseudo Socialists. Well that may be true, but the Democrats would in Britain be more akin to the Conservative party. The Labour party has some real hard core marxists in it’s midst. Tony Blair may be a social democrat but he has kept them in power, otherwise they would be unelectable.
Socialism to my mind in Britain really took off after WW2 when people felt there should be some kind of reward for all the hardship of the war years. I agree with you there has to be in a civilised society some form of safety net. However I look around and one of Tony Blairs “big ideas” is to mix up welfare folk amongst working people. So for example a property developer buys a load of land to develop and provide new houses. The government now insists that a percentage of the houses are bought and paid for by the local authority and welfare recipients get to live there. This is just not right.
People should be rewarded for hard work and giving people money to sit on their butts encourages deadbeats (in my opinion). My next door neighbour is one such low life. Our house costs us about $800 a month in mortgage payments. He and his family “rent” their property. However since he doesn’t appear to be able to work and is on “disability” benefit. The local authority pay the rent (i.e. me and anyone that works). Yet they have the cash to go on holiday, go to the pub, run two cars and he smokes? WTF? Also he will get a state pension when he retires but has probably paid f**k all in, how can this be right?
Massive reform is the answer but I fear there are too many bleeding hearts. It will take another radical like Maggie Thatcher to sort it all out when it all goes pear shaped.
Oh and I am one of the baby boomers! So yes we have that to face as well. Funny the government seems to keep very quiet on that issue!LBJ: Andy Capp is our model for understanding British Socialism.
I read that Tony Blair kicked the real Commies out of the Labour Party?
Anyhow, your Brits made Fabian Socialism a reality.
God bless Maggie, but the best any reformer has done, in either of our countries, is temporarily slow the rate of government growth. Whoopie… I cannot think of an example of Big Government being seriously reigned in, nor an example of a country going straight from collapse to Democracy & Freedom. Usually collapse is followed by Napoleon or Hitler.Posted by Oink
03/20/2006 at 12:02 PM
Oink I quite agree it is unlikely that any real reform will occur short of some despot taking over.
As for Tony Blair kicking out the commies. Well it depends on how you view it. In order to get re-elected they dumped “clause four” of their constitution.To secure for the producers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry, and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible, upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry and service of the labour party constitution. sounds remarkably like Karl Marx to me!
They had no real choice after Margaret Thatcher sold off all the industries that Labour had nationalised since WWII. It’s a long story but to summarise most of them had been less than shining examples of well run businesses. (Think British Leyland circa 1975) Putting them into the private sector transformed them. Nevertheless this was not accepted by the majority of Labour supporters and many of them still hanker for the security blanket of state control of industry etc. However they were for most people unpalatable and really it was only after they dropped clause four and elected smarmy Blair that people started to consider them as potentially electable.
The deputy Prime Minister a fat surly oaf called John Prescott is pretty left wing, but there a lot worse lurking on the back benches. Blair probably has 50-60 hard core lefties who think along similar lines to the former moonbat extraordinaire George Galloway. He was a Labour MP for many years until he pushed Blair too far. Also the mayor of London and former Labour MP Ken Livingstone was not dubbed Red Ken for nothing.
Now that Blair has been caught with his hand in the till selling Lordships for loans I think his days are numbered and the heir to the throne (Gordon Brown) is a return to the old school of socialism. I think he will also prove to be less popular in the US.
Incidentally the Labour party in England actually polled less votes than the Conservatives. What kept them in power was the old school die hard socialists in Scotland and Wales together with the Metropolitan vote. Out in the shires they are loathed with a passion!Today, you gotta be be Gus Hall (or the producer of “Brassed Off") to believe that government-owned mines or steel mills are a good idea. I was unaware of clause four, specifically, but knew that was Labor’s philosophy. Right after WW2 was done, Sir Winston was tossed out and the noble experiment began.
Today’s enlightened socialists are content to expropriate the money after private industry produces it.
Posted by Oink
03/21/2006 at 10:14 AM
Bring back King Henry VIII. He knew how to run things right. :rulez:
’Off With Their Heads’ would work, but otherwise Henry VIII—Old Coppernose --would feel comfortable with today’s debasing of the currency. Except that he spent the money on wars.
http://www.coinclubs.freeserve.co.uk/Bexley/henry.htm
Posted by Oink
03/21/2006 at 12:59 PM
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