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Posted by Drew458    United States   on 10/10/2007 at 10:01 AM   
 
  1. I’m very glad you did “shamelessly steal” this! This is very, VERY good. Now, if we could only get this out to the MSM. But they’d never print it. Their masters wish a subservient serfdom, not a capable society. soapbox

    Posted by cmblake6    United States   10/10/2007  at  09:29 AM  

  2. Item 11.  The FAQ for those who carry concealed weapons: 

    * No, I’ve never shot myself in the foot, leg or buttocks.  grin

    * Am I carrying right now?  Are you wearing underwear, right now?  (That is a rather personal question just like your underwear; I’ll share if I feel it appropriate.) loser

    * No, I haven’t shot anyone this week.  But it’s only Wednesday. grin

    * In point of fact, I was born in Dodge City, Kansas. (But I don’t own a horse.) grin

    Posted by Archie    United States   10/10/2007  at  09:45 AM  

  3. Very well put.  I can’t think of anything to add other than a hearty Amen!  One time I assured a Hollywood Liberal that while I had guns that it was OK because I didn’t work for the Post Office.  He didn’t find it funny.

    Posted by Dr. Jeff    United States   10/10/2007  at  01:35 PM  

  4. "There are no accidental discharges only negligent discharges or intentional discharges”

    Yeah right. Tell that to Jayson Williams and his wood chip filled Cittori shotgun.

    [/sarcasm]

    Posted by Drew458    United States   10/10/2007  at  02:29 PM  

  5. i don’t leave the house without my 380.
    go ahead and tell me it’s to small, not enough firepower.
    it’s better than being unarmed and the ammo is corbon jhp.
    it fits in my pocket, and i have 14 rounds.

    Posted by stan    United States   10/10/2007  at  09:54 PM  

  6. Ted Nugent on the Second Amendment.  He gets pretty passionate.

    Posted by BobF    United States   10/10/2007  at  10:00 PM  

  7. Stan, what kind? A Kahr? I’m looking for a good little pocket gun; my mini-45 is really just too big and heavy. I was thinking about a 5 shot .32 snubby too, but haven’t looked around to see if one is even made.

    Posted by Drew458    United States   10/11/2007  at  09:58 AM  

  8. Drew, I’ve got a S&W M10 cut down to just in front of the extractor lug, round-butted and dehorned.  It fits into a front trouser pocket (unless you wear those skin-tight styles).  It shoots Federal 147 Hydrashok ammo to point of aim at 25 yards.

    I have a Colt 1903 Pocket Pistol in .32 ACP, too.  But it’s just for fancy dress up.

    Posted by Archie    United States   10/11/2007  at  06:33 PM  

  9. Drew, check out the Bersa Thunder .380 CC.
    I have 2, because the first was so reliable.
    they are cheap and durable walther ppk copies.
    corbon makes a real nasty 90 grain JHP in .380 to help stopping power.
    for .32 cal check this one out.
    ultra light taurus 731 .32 Magnum Revolver.
    it weight is 17 ounces.
    not 32 but 32 magnum,
    light,small,and stopping power. 

    http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?model=731SSULC&category=Revolver

    the Taurus will be my next purchase.

    Hey,
    I love the 1911 like everyone,
    but until open carry is legal in texas i have to leave it in the car because it’s to hard to conceal.

    Posted by stan    United States   10/11/2007  at  08:11 PM  

  10. Originally I just wanted to say thanks for the info guys, but my comment “somehow” turned into a CCW pistol research and balancing act. I was hoping there was a .44 revolver out there the size of a Tomcat. For $250. Well made too. Sure, right.

    Bersa now has a bobbed version of the Thunder 380 called, appropriately, the Concealed Carry:
    23 ounces, 6"x4.5"x1", $315 MSRP, .380 ACP, 8 rounds
    It’s nearly half an inch thinner than the regular Thunder.

    The Taurus is much lighter at 17oz, 6"x5"x1.3", MSRP $455. .32H&R magnum, 6 rounds

    S&W makes their 642 Revolver, 15oz, 6.375"x5"?x1.875", MSRP $529, .38 Special +P, 5 rounds
    Of course, Smith also makes a similar sized 12oz titanium .357, and the ever popular 12oz titanium Lady Smith in .38+P, but those guns are $700-1000. Same price range for their 23oz stainless steel verions of the same gun. Thinking on it, my Ruger .357 is a handful to shoot and that one weighs 44oz. A 12oz .357 could be a real painful experience! (tho in a snubby, at arms length distance, a .357 has the advantage of also setting your target on fire, or at least blinding and deafening them!)

    .380 ACP can push 90 grain bullets at 1100fps.
    .32 H&R magnum can push 100 grain bullets at 1100fps.
    .38 Special +P can push 140 grain bullets at 1100fps.
    .357 Magnum can push 158 grain bullets at 1100fps or faster.
    .45ACP +P can push 180 grain bullets at 1100fps.

    The Bersa is the smallest. The Smiths are the lightest and the most powerful, but they’re the thickest of the bunch. Also the most expensive, and I’ve always felt a carry gun should be sort of inexpensive (if you ever use it, you’ll probably lose it) as well as well made. OTOH, you can shoot the Smiths all day for the rest of your life and they won’t wear out. And they all have velvet smooth triggers. Quality costs, always has.

    Most of these MSRP prices get reduced as much as a third at the gun shop.

    Compare them all to my full priced Kimber Ultra-Carry in stainless steel:
    25oz, 6.75"x5"x1.25", $875 MSRP, .45ACP (easily +P), 7 rounds

    These all look like nice small pistols but I’m not seeing much advantage with the Bersa over my Kimber and the .380 is HALF the power of the .45. Sure, its a geat price but I already have a pistol of that size and weight.

    The S&W and the Taurus are much lighter (don’t forget these are unloaded weights: big bullets are heavy too) than my mini-1911. .357/.38+P is up to the job fer shure, I think .32 H&R should be Ok too. The S&W “costs” half an inch more bulge and a pile of cash, the Taurus is only a hair thicker than the Kimber. And the price is reasonable.

    Another choice may be the Charter Arms Undercover Lite.
    It’s a 5 shot revolver, .38+P, weighing only 12oz, $359. You can get it with smaller grips and a bobbed hammer too. I don’t know if Charter Arms guns are adequate quality or not; I’ve heard about their .44 Bulldog forever, but I’ve never seen one. I know the Taurus is well made these days, and it’s only about $100 more than the Charter Arms gun.

    Now I gotta think on it.

    Posted by Drew458    United States   10/11/2007  at  10:12 PM  

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