Teachers And Guns
It would be interesting to know just who that “tip” came from, and why. Sounds like a vendetta of some kind to me.
This is a great example of CC laws being indirectly nullified by making it illegal to enter your destination with a weapon. If you are not going to allow lawful citizens to carry their piece then you ought to be required to properly secure the weapon on their behalf.(For the record I do not advocate checking your piece.) It seems insane that the gun control liberals think these laws buy them any protection. I would argue that it makes them less safe by giving criminals the upper hand.
Of course checking your weapon is not much help when an armed criminal decides she is going to go on a rampage. ( You all know the saying “I’d rather be judged by 12...” ) Hold on a minute there honey, let me run out to the car and get my gun before you open up on us. OR Hold on 20 minutes until the cops get here… Right…
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Ms. Jones( The 6th grade teacher): Stop fiddling around with those Johhny, my kitty needs some attention.
Johhny: (thinking: Wait til I tell my buddies about this at out troop meeting tonight). Okay Ms. Jones, whatever you say, you’re the teacher.
Johnny: (fumbling around)...Whoa, what the hell is this Ms Jones.
Ms. Jones: Stop calling me that. Call me Mommy.
Johnny: Oh Mommy, what’s this big bulge in your panties. They didn’t teach us anyting about that at school last year. Are you a… a.. a… Tranny?
Ms. Jones: Don’t be silly Johhny, thats just my factory accurized Datonics ‘Score Master’. He gaurds my kitty from dirty old(anyone over 16) men. yes its true, I’m a criminal for having this bad boy in the school parking lot. But a hot Mommy like me need protection. If thats wrong I don’t want to be right. Here, let me put him in the glove box. Now...ravage me you animal.
Johhny: Cool, maybe we can shoot some beer cans when were done!
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Okay, okay, I won’t quit my day job!So all this makes me wonder why the guy decided to leave his piece in the car. Metal detectors? Too big to really conceal without bulky overwear? Is he they gym instructor?
Let’s hope they use some discretion here.
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Posted by Outrider
04/27/2005 at 09:35 AM
You sure he’s not hunting killer wabbits?
Having taught very near Fairfax County in VA, I can tell you it is just as well teachers can’t carry guns. Had I been allowed to carry anything more ominous than a walkie-talkie, like a real weapon, I’d have used it more than once. For my own safety.
What’s the purpose of a permit to carry a concealed weapon, locked in your car, and then to be prosecuted for it? Too ridiculous.
I think teachers ought to be allowed to carry tasers strapped, visibly, to their sides.
Posted by Phoenix
04/27/2005 at 10:18 AM
Yes, Virginia is an Open Carry state. The trouble is, we have as many fools as teachers as we do students.
“Johnny, where’s your homework?”
“Um, I didn’t do it.”
BLAM.
Not good for school morale. Had I used my weapon, a gun, I’d have killed considering the few times I ‘needed’ a weapon. I’d just as soon think I’d knocked someone out than killed them. Although, at the time, I would have gladly killed.
Posted by Phoenix
04/27/2005 at 10:41 AM
Phoenix, are you saying you or someone near you were in mortal danger with no way to extricate yourselves? I am interested in knowing how things played out.
Thanks
F.O.C.
F.O.C.
I guess ‘mortal’ danger might be hyperbole, but it wasn’t so much the incidences themselves as the aftermath - the stalking, the fear I’d be targeted after school. I’m very small, and I found myself more than once, out of doors, trying to stop a ‘to-the-death’ fight with big teen-age guys. I was right in the middle of it, and surrounding the fighters was always the huge crowds these fights always generated. On two occasions, I was the only adult. I got knocked around a few times. One year we got a student who was kicked out of the STATE of South Carolina. He was a 6’4” black kid who wore super-cool clothes and who thought he was god. His name, ironically, was Khalil. I was on my first day as monitor for a duty station, and he was there with all his buddies, sycophants, standing around to watch what he’d do to me. He started circling me and muttering things I could not understand other than that the tone was menacing. His buds thought it was great fun. I was in a remote place in the school and had no choice but to speak to this animal and ask him to stop. Of course, I had to look up, and he looked down. If I’d never actually believed in evil before then, I was awakened to it by the emptiness and blackness in his depthless eyes. I immediately left my post and went for help. I couldn’t find help so grabbed a walkie talkie from the office (we weren’t allowed to have them then, so I was doing an ‘illegal’ act by doing that) and went back to my post. Khalil had garnered more support and they were waiting for me. They all began to circle me with Khalil chanting mutterings of racial slurs. I called for help on the walkie talkie and within minutes two male teachers and the principal showed up. The principal, who was afraid of Khalil, talked him out of the scene, the rest scattered, and the two teachers came to stand by me. All the kids left as the bell rang, so there was just the three of us. The guys were trying to comfort me. I do not perspire, sweat. Ever. All of a sudden I felt rivulets of water running down my sides - so much so that it soaked my waistband. Then I fainted. I am hardly a sissy-type, but I can tell you now I can comprehend pure, unadulterated fear. Khalil stalked me for three weeks until he did something that got him kicked out of Virginia. There was not an adult in that school who did not know that Khalil would either kill someone or be killed.
That’s just one story. I taught a psycho once who carried around a huge duffle bag. This was before the days of metal detectors. I was so scared of him, that one day while I was lecturing, he reached down into his bag and I almost passed out cold. I taught a kid for two years and never had any problem with him other than he was extremely smart and horribly grumpy. I was asked to write up a summary of his character. Seems he had plans to shoot up the school.
I look back, after thinking about your question, and realize that most of the fear we felt as teachers was subliminal. The job is extremely stressful because of that.
Posted by Phoenix
04/27/2005 at 12:17 PM
Phoenix,
Thanks for relating the horrifying details.
I feel sorry for you and others who have to endure this bs, but those kids HAVE RIGHTS! Back in my day (80s) if you pulled that shit in school you’d be out on your ass in a heartbeat. How far we’ve come! This whole situation is a direct byproduct of the everyone-is-a-victim, anything goes, fatherless, single welfare mom drug-addict baby factory society. What can you do? Nothing! These animals HAVE RIGHTS and you have bills to pay.
Ironic ... that is all I think.
After reading your experience Phoenix, I have to admit that personally, if those types of confrontations are happening on a regular basis throughout the many schools, I don’t blame teachers for having their weapons secured in their vehicles for the just in case scenarios.
I know that cars can be broken into, but there again, kids can just as easily have weapons concealed in their vehicles also. Catch 22 situation, a law instigated to prevent a crime does not necessarily stop a crime. hmmmm ponders
04/27/2005 at 02:54 PM
