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Posted by The Skipper    United States   on 04/29/2007 at 02:20 AM   
 
  1. Skipper I wonder how much longer we will pretend that we can afford this nonsense. Neither of the two main parties will admit that the NHS and welfare are crippling Britain. The sacred cow must be maintained, whatever the cost it seems. With an increasingly elderly population and with hundreds of thousands of immigrants who have never contributed a penny to welfare. You would think someone would have the balls to say “enough is enough”

    As it happens when Blair was first elected in 1997 he gave a guy called Frank Field the job of “thinking the unthinkable” regarding welfare. Frank did as he was asked and recommended some drastic remedies. His reward was to be fired.  The problem as I see it is no one wants to have to pay for this. Welfare has been going since the end of WW2. The NHS was set up as a reward for returning soldiers. A sort of Brave New World. You have to remember that at the end of WW2 Churchill’s thank you was to be booted out of office in favour of the socialists. They promptly set up the welfare state and Britain has pretty much been in slow decline ever since. No one will tackle it. All we get is ever spiralling taxes and the biggest employer in Britain is the state.

    The trouble with that is the state employees are non productive so the burden of tax falls on a decreasing sector of society.
    There are aspects of the US system which I don’t care for. People who can’t get insurance can be poorly served by the system, but I do believe if people can afford to pay they should. Our hospitals are a joke. People come from all over the world and get free treatment. The staff are too scared to challenge their right to treatment in case they are accused of racism. If they do determine that they should be charged they rarely if ever follow it up. In any event these people just give a bogus address and once back in their home country are largely untouchable.

    Apologies for going off topic but a good read on the US forces performance in Afghanistan can be had here…

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=G4M0NXL0QTJ0DQFIQMGCFF4AVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2007/04/29/wafg29.xml

    Posted by LyndonB    United Kingdom   04/29/2007  at  04:35 AM  

  2. Soon, the NHS will begin killing patients that require too expensive care in order to survive.  An air bubble injected into an IV line is pretty cheap.

    Posted by Kirk    United States   04/29/2007  at  08:45 AM  

  3. You can see what is coming.

    If you doubt where we are headed I’d suggest everyone go back to an old Chuck Heston movie named…

    Soylent Green

    Posted by babylonandon    United States   04/29/2007  at  10:12 AM  

  4. Shouldn’t the second bubble be “take two aspirin and mail in the $5 copay”?

    Posted by Jeremy    United States   04/29/2007  at  10:27 AM  

  5. ’my wife has to struggle just to get her mother what the old dog has PAID for thru years of work and taxes’ this is what po’s me about ‘universal’ health care - those who pay are treated like second class ditch diggers while the illegal immigrants, drug addicts and those who don’t even attempt to take care of themselves - get a pass. Sorry the old system might suck for some, but at least the individual is responsible. And they really, really need to go back to the ‘general hospital’ which took all those crappy life and death - non-payers/non-insured/addicts. Let the rest of the hospitals not soak insurance companies and those who pay out of pocket for those who pay nothing. How about what the first hubby and I did for the birth of our first child - we paid and paid - until it was paid off. Gave us a credit rating and by the time we’d only paid a couple of payments, our insurance had kicked in for our medical care (and his). So it was just another bill for a few months.

    But alas with the welfare state, remaking alcoholism/addiction into diseases, SS and other entitlements and of course all the illegals - the US has created a big proportion of the society who does not contribute to their own health, well being and future in any way what so ever.

    Sorry I don’t want to become one of the sheeple just cause some idiot who choses not to purchase insurance, choses not to take care of themselves or is an addict/entitlement freak - can feel better about themselves - shame and guilt work wonders on improving behavior - ask any mother!

    BTW, Skipper isn’t there a dr over on the other side of the pond who is recommending killing newborns who are ‘defective’ as a way to save the Nasty system the expense? That is what it will come too. Bureacrats, insurance whinnies and lawyers making the decision as to who lives, who dies and who gets care - even if it is ‘universal’ - they always write in ‘loopholes’ so as to be able to advance their ‘agendas.’

    Soulless freaks who are out to destroy the World.

    Posted by wardmama4    United States   04/29/2007  at  12:39 PM  

  6. My oldest son was born at John Radcliff Hospital in Oxford.  Since I was USAF, CHAMPUS provided us a private doctor (they were called Mister) and room at the hospital.  The women who were in NHS were all in one room, separated only by curtains.  The care my wife received from her doctor and hospital staff was nothing less than Outstanding.  When complications arose during the birthing, it seemed like an everyday occurrence for them but, years later, when one of my subordinate’s wife had the same complications here in the states, the doctors told him she and their newborn were lucky to come out alive.  Upon taking my wife and new son home, they were visited daily by a district midwife who would check them both and give any minor meds if needed.  At the end of one week, a district nurse visited them for a final checkout to ensure a clean bill of health.

    Posted by BobF    United States   04/29/2007  at  09:27 PM  

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