Sikh The Knife
Looks like we should export OCM Jones to Canukistan to take care of business!!
But seriously, this ruling is unfair. If the Muslim kids get to carry daggers, then all the other kids should be allowed to carry one too. It’s only fair.
BTW, Sikhs are not muslims :rulez:
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and they ain’t no moose-limbs, either....
Hey, who’s this guy look like ? He’s definitely an old cat, man
Coming from a country that let a self admitted and convicted sexual serial killer out of prison after only a few( very few) years(karla homulka), this does not surprise me.
Posted by SouthernDoll
03/03/2006 at 12:05 PM
I like the Sikh. I’ve never seen one toting a dagger. The keep a tiny ceremonial one in their turbans.
Posted by Oink
03/03/2006 at 12:56 PM
Whether its cultural or religious or not, a knife is a knife. What if the school had several traditional Scottish students? Would they be allowed to carry that toad sticker when wearing their kilty outfit?
I gotta sign myself up for one of these groups. Or maybe start one ... a new Protestant faith called the 1911-terians.
As a Celt, I get to carry a Claymore or a basket-hilted Scottish broadsword, right?
Do the Moslems get to wear explosive vests, too?
Posted by MAJ Mike
03/03/2006 at 01:52 PM
1911-terians, eh? I’ll join. Going to “church” tomorrow and burn up a few boxes of “prayers” in my new Springfield “symbol of religious freedom"…
Guys I think we are getting carried away here. As RP says Sikhs are not moooslims and what’s more moooslims consider Sikhs infidels. They are in the view of mooslims worse than the dhimmi Jews and Christians. Sikhs are a race of warriors, many thousands fought and died for Britain in both world wars. I believe the family name Singh means Lion. They may wear a glorified nappy on their heads, but they are good blokes. I think it is a stupid ruling however, and it will backfire on them when parents take schools to court for allowing this. What they should have done is banned edged weapons or blades. If they don’t like it tough. I know Sikhs here in Britain that wear jewelry that represents the kirpan. That seems to me to strike the right balance.
LBJ is correct. During the Iranian hostage taking at our embassy, people named “Irani” were getting hate calls.
They were from India.Posted by Oink
03/03/2006 at 02:15 PM
If I had a bunch of moooslims in front of me, I’d be proud to have a bunch of Sikhs backing me up. If possible, they hate the muzzies more than I do!
(Crocodile Dundee) “That’s not a knife, mate, THIS is a knife...”
Carry??? Tow it behind your car, yeah. Carry one, I don’t think so…
The Sikhs are pretty formidable, but for real “backup” I’ll take the Ghurkas every time…
still wrong, when in rome do as the romans do. :rulez:
OCM - If you’re an old school WOP, then you must tote a lupara.
Good luck getting on an airplane…
Posted by emdfl
03/04/2006 at 08:01 AM
Let me say first, don’t let this turn into ignorant discrimination against Sikhs. (Granted, I am biased; one of my very good friends is Sikh.) The Sikh are warriors, but historically peaceful unless provoked. (Again, historically, that provocation has come from Muslim, who oppressed both the Hindu and the Sikh in India.) Sikhism is a monotheistic religion much more closely resembling Judaism than Islam.
Second, the photo accompanying the article may depict a kirpan, but I’ve not seen one that big. My friend is Khalsa (orthodox), and observes the 5 tenets, including carrying a Kirpan. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it.
Third, the real issue here is: 1) is the policy discriminatory? 2) is the policy too broad/general? 3) does the policy interfere with religious observation?
Obviously, a general policy banning weapons is not inherently discriminatory; however, this policy specifically banned kirpans. Perhaps a better approach would be a general ban on weapons, with an exception for religious requirements, as well as a zero-tolerance policy. Thus, Khalsa Sikhs would not be required to violate their beliefs, but would be held responsible for the kirpan and would be held accountable immediately and without exception should it be used in any way.
Such a compromise should appease both the Sikhs as well as the concerned parents.
Of course, if you want to challenge the religious-belief exception, pull an L. Ron Hubbard, start your own religion, and declare that your belief system requires you carry that pump shotgun. That could make for some interesting fireworks!
Pre-Fanatization, the US normally made reasonable adjustments to religious groups. The Amish wagons were allowed on roads and their sons routinely given CO status in The Draft. Fish was served on Friday at school. Those with Sabbath conflicts could take their SATs another day. BUT—Sorry if your religion calls for personal bloody revenge when offended.
That’s where France looked silly—banning trivial, non-offensive girls’ scarves at school, but tolerating rioters??? It got so stupid as to ban beards—but only if it was a religious symbol.
If something isn’t terribly disruptive and not flat illegal for everyone, who cares? Eliminate Laws & Lawyers, start using tolerance and common sense. You youngsters, look that term up under Wikipedia or Google.
Posted by Oink
03/04/2006 at 03:23 PM
I hear if they take it from the sheath they must draw blood with it
I bet that makes for a polite society…
The twelve ga. pump as a religious symbol works for me
CB excellent post!
The Fatman I believe what you refer to is actually a myth attributed to the Ghurkas. They carry the Kukri. The myth has developed that once unsheathed it must be used to draw blood. It’s a pity things are going to ratshit in Nepal as the Ghurkas are some of the finest soldiers in the world and on top of that they are incredibly nice people.Nepal, the Gurkha, and the Kukri: The three of them are inseparable in reputation, and the Gurkha Soldier keeps his kukri as he keeps his honour – bright and keen.
A Gurkha Warrior slashes at the enemy’s throat, the enemy steps back and laughs,
”You missed!”
the Gurka smiles,
“You think so? Try nodding your head...”
Posted by Oink
03/05/2006 at 11:12 AM
He’s the reason BMEWS got bounced from photonet
Posted by Oink
03/05/2006 at 11:29 AM
what happens at airports?
its an offensive weapon for fuck sake, should not be allowed, end of.you wanna do that crap go back to india.
03/03/2006 at 02:08 PM
03/05/2006 at 01:25 PM