Should He Stay Or Should He Go?
I’ll second that vote!
Posted by mcharrison18
04/08/2005 at 07:31 AM
Of course he should be sent back. However the Chinese will not accept him without a passport. To get a passport for him will take months if at all. Basically the Chinese don’t want him back, he’s probably a deadbeat in China and they are glad to see the back of him. What the US and other countries should do is put the squeeze on China, India etc. where these people come from. Tell them there will be economic sanctions. Maybe then they will play ball and sort out a passport for the clown. By which time of course the sleazebag lawyers will be bleating about his “human rights” being violated....
Is he in danger of harm if he goes back to China?-for instance a Chinese woman pregenant for the second or third time-that was an example.
No?
OUT!
Btw-Bloomberg was a life-long democrat who switched parties ONLY so he could run for NYC mayor.
A snake is a snake is a snake.
Posted by Annoying Little Twerp
04/08/2005 at 09:48 AM
Back to China and BTW put the National Guard at our Southern border and up north with our leftist buddies.
Send the little rice eater back to Wonder Wok.
We have hundreds of old ships in harbor out on the west coast.Send them all back.
Send him back.
OCM...zai-jian...not sure if that is cantonese but it is goodbye in one of their languages.
OCM, just say, “Kung Pow, motherfucker! And don’t let the chow mein hit you in the ass on your way out!!!”
That’s how I say goodbye in Chinese.
Can’t we just send him to Mexico instead.
Time to break with the orthodoxy. I wouldn’t send a DOG back to a communist country, especially China. And if we justify giving sanctuary to every Cuban who paddles ashore on humanitarian grounds, we can hardly justify not granting that to someone from a regime that’s just as bad if not worse.
Posted by RHJunior
04/08/2005 at 10:56 PM
Michael Bloomberg IS the quintessential RINO!
As I understood it, the Cubans are granted, by law, immediate political asylum the moment they set foot on shore.
considering where they’re fleeing from--- little more than a communist prison-island--- that’s a legal decision I have to agree with.
Posted by RHJunior
04/09/2005 at 09:52 AM
RH, the main reason that Cubans get assylum is kind of paying them back for the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Having grown-up in the Ft. Lauderdale/Miami area, I can tell you that many Cubans of that generation are staunch conservatives and contributing members of the community as small business owners.
While I admire your compassion for those from commmie countries, we simply cannot be responsible for all of them. There are A LOT MORE Chinese than Cubans; and who’s to say that this guy is a refugee?
Regardless of where one is from, there is a right way and a wrong way to enter a foreign country. I can speak from the high ground on this issue, because I am in the process of doing such, and I am doing it the right way, with all the forms and other red tape.
Yes, I’m sure that you’re going through the proper channels. You come from a country where you have that option. The people in Mexico pouring across the border incense me because they COULD go through the proper channels, but they choose not to, in spite of having that option.
People from China and Cuba don’t have that option. In a communist regime, there ARE no “proper channels” to freedom.
I’m old enough to remember when people were still having to tunnel under the berlin wall to escape. And I remember how people POURED across the border when the wall fell, making it clear once and for all that noone stayed in a communist state of their own free will. I remember what happened at Tianenmen Square, too. And I remember the stories told by refugees of the inhuman horrors that took place on a daily basis in those miserable pits. I don’t call communist regimes “hellholes” by mistake.
If the words “the freest country in the world” are anything but rhetoric, then as a nation we must by necessity treasure all those people in the world who crave freedom.
No, we can’t be responsible for all the people in China. But that isn’t the idea behind how this country is made. You come to America, you come here so you can be responsible for YOURSELF. Those who come here must be integrated into American society and American culture and demonstrate he has American values.... but then again, I say that anyone who has swum with sharks and tunneled under walls and risked getting shot in the back by his own government to get here has demonstrated that he already has the most basic American value inherently--- he values freedom. If he’s willing to stand up and take the oath of citizenship along with the rest of us, then I consider him a brother.
And if you want to get pissy about social security going to so many “durned furriners,” try bitchslapping the bureaucrats who’re handing it out to them first.
Posted by RHJunior
04/09/2005 at 06:17 PM
RH, first of all, I come from a long line of anti-communists with great grandparents who escaped the Bolsheviks and came here legally via Poland, so I don’t need a lecture on what communism is or isn’t.
Second, I am also old enough to remember the incidents and situations you mentioned.
Third, I did not mention the social security issue nor do I intend to get “pissy.” If and when I DO get “pissy,” there will be no doubt as to that fact.
Fourth, I lived within 50 miles of the US-Mexico border for over 12 years, minus one year of overseas duty. I am VERY aware of the illegal immigration problem.
Now that said, you are not entirely correct when you say:
“But that isn’t the idea behind how this country is made...”There was a time when we were taking a lot of immigrants to work a burgeoning industrial economy. We don’t need that many people anymore which is why there are quotas on immigration...which is all the more reason to enforce immigration policies. Here in NZ the policies are pretty damned strict - one of them is that YOU MUST SPEAK ENGLISH!!! Point is, they don’t just let anybody in (although they do have a good number of Chinese and other Asians here).
Also, you state:
”...anyone who has swum with sharks and tunneled under walls and risked getting shot in the back by his own government to get here has demonstrated that he already has the most basic American value inherently--- he values freedom.”Yes, that is true, but a murderer will do the same thing; not a good enough reason.
The point is that the guy entered the US illegally at a time when the US should be tightening-up its immigration policies. He may be an innocent refugee trying to make a better life for himself. Or he may not have the best of intentions. Either way, that is what getting into the system and going through proper channels is all about.
Either we have an immigration policy, or we don’t. If we do, then I expect my government to enforce it. If we don’t, then they just need to let us know.
DAMMIT!!!! This is getting old....we definitely need another computer....#23 is me
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