Saving Money at the MoD
Well, technically there was no RAF prior to 1918, so that would correctly be the RFC.
However, that still doesn’t even REMOTRELY excuse this; if anything, just the opposite.
To think that one of the greatest airforces in world history and certainly in the West is being cut down to what it virtually was NEAR THE EFFRING BIRTH OF FLIGHT ITSELF over a CENTURY ago is just infuriating. Even worse is the fact that- as you mentioned, Drew- this money which should be rightfully securing the future liberty and sovereignty of the British and their Empire is being drained away to feed the ever-hungry gaping maw of social entitlements and thus wasted. Foolish, foolish, foolish.
The money you invest in social propgrams are by and large like pebbles on a beach: so easily swept away as to be almost worthless. The money you invest in the military, however, is like a sea wall: its job is to stay, and with proper maintenence and supply stay it does. It is the investment in the fturue of your nation, your people, and your way of life. And now one of the keystone nations of the West, the British Empire that has endured as a bastion in the West and the world at large is abandoning its investment in its own future.
It is almost like reality is authorized by some hack writer whose itdea of symbolism is to smash the aesop on your effing head repeatedly.
This is sickening. No words can properly describe my anger. DAMN THEM ALL!
Posted by Turtler
08/07/2010 at 02:48 PM
Not that I disagree with you Turtler per se but the RAF has lived for too long on the back of the Battle of Britain legend. Britain is an Island and for far too long they have overlooked the navy and thrown money at the RAF to give them the latest and greatest toys.
The Typhoon is a good aircraft, but just like the last cobbled together Europlane the Tornado it is far too late, way over budget and tries to be jack of all trades but master of none. The Tornado is a good bomber, but a lousy fighter. The Typhoon is a good fighter but a lousy bomber. However like all these cobbled together solutions to please the eurocrats it was made to fulfill too many roles.
Britain spends less than 2% of GDP on defence compared to the US 6% though this is still much larger than most of the other eurowankers. They can only afford this precisely because as Drew points out they squander far too much on every Mohammed, Abdul and Tahir from the rest of the turd world. You probably missed the story a few days back wher eit was revealed there are over a hundred thousand deadbeats getting more in welfare than the average UK national wage ($35,000)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7931214/Thousands-earning-more-in-benefits-than-average-wage.html
I like the way they describe these people as “earning” their benefits....how does that work pray tell?The UK has finally started production on two medium sized aircraft carriers (compared to the US behemoths) the money saved on the RAF I am hopeful will secure the future of the two Queen Elizabeth class carriers. I should also point out that politicians frequently only look at the short term. Money saved on defence procurement may very well be squandered on scumbag Somali “asylum seekers” what it will also mean though is a lot of skilled British engineers losing their jobs. Long term it will lead to a decline in the ability of Britain to supply defence equipment. One of our few viable exports these days.
Turtler another problem here is the UK’s obsession with remaining a member of the EU. Some of the laughable schemes proposed include for example sharing nuclear technology with the French or even pooling nuclear subs. I suppose at least on the plus side they will be less likely to crash into each other
The UK Trident submarines are on the table for cutting. The bed wetting Liberal party who are now in a coalition with the Conservatives hate nukes and would gladly get shot of them. They have come up with hare brained ideas like buying nuclear cruise missiles. They seem to conveniently overlook the fact that cruise missiles unlike ICBM’s can be shot down. They are eurofanatics and would gladly sell Britain out so long as they get a seat in the Euro parliament.
I am not optimistic about Britain’s long term future. Turd world immigration coupled with ludicrous levels of welfare will result in anarchy.
Turtler another problem here is the UK’s obsession with remaining a member of the EU.
Is it really the UK’s obsession? Or just the obsession of the UK’s ‘Obama class’?
In this age of ‘celebrating diversity’ I’m really puzzled at the EU. Why can’t Brits be British? Swiss be Swiss (er, are the Swiss even signatories? Or do they maintain their historical neutrality?). Why can’t Germans be Germans, Poles be Polish, Italians be whatever the government of the moment says, etc. Why, in the name of ‘diversity’ does the world need, or want, a homogenized Europe? Where’s the ‘diversity’ in that?
Ther is an up side here. This way when the muzzies take over the country in a few years, they won’t inherit much in the way modern military equipment.
ANd the other good news ia that when they do, the gypos will probably be high their list of dhimmis.Posted by emdfl
08/07/2010 at 08:36 PM
Not that I disagree with you Turtler per se but the RAF has lived for too long on the back of the Battle of Britain legend.
Oh, I believe we can agree on that much. The RAF has been a bit pampered more than necessary and to little effect (as shown by the Falklands War), but that is to the background of the cut-to-the-bone British armed forces at large. I would support some modest (VERY modest) cuts to the RAF. But this is not a modest cut, this is utter evisceration and there is no escuse for it whatsoever, PARTICULARLY since that money is going to be spent/wasted in the great maw of entitlements more than it will ever be redirected to the places that need it like the RN.
iBritain is an Island and for far too long they have overlooked the navy and thrown money at the RAF to give them the latest and greatest toys.
The problem I have with Britain’s handling of the RAF is that it is lavashing funds on it to the extent that the other services have been severely weakened (case in point as you said being the sorry excuse for the Royal Navy that exists today). Because you are SUPPOSED to throw money at the military to give them the latest and greatest toys at something approaching an efficient rate, because you will NOT know when you need them. While the RAF has screwed the pooch (as you excellently illustrate) more than once, that does not invalidate the true benefits of trying to continue to arm the armed forces and push on. Only that there needs to be a better quality control on the RAF’s purchases.
Turtler another problem here is the UK’s obsession with remaining a member of the EU. Some of the laughable schemes proposed include for example sharing nuclear technology with the French or even pooling nuclear subs.
I agree that the EU and attempts to pander to it are trouble. WHile some (and I do mean SOME) of those hare-brained schemes might in fact have benefits (such as sharing nuclear technology, hey, why not try to herd the European cats into some form of cooperation that might have actual benefits to themselves and/or us) and the main issue I have with the “pooling the subs” is the possible leaks that entails (as god only knows how many enemy agents in the various Euro governments and militaries would- as a result of this- be in a position to compromise the entirety of the European nuclear sub forces as a result). I do think the continent could do with some military integration and a LOT of buildupp, and so I am generrally mixed on the EU’s effects on the British military (it’s political and ecconomic “effects”, on the other hand......... the less said of them the better for my heart).
As I said before: this is inexcuasable. To repeat: this is not cutting back the RAF, this is EVISCERATING the RAF. You ALWAYS need to build a military years before you need it to actually use it, and you NEVER know when you will need it. The British are making the exact same mistake they and most of the West made after WWI and we saw how that ended. They are selling off parts of their independence in exchange for votes, and that is inexcusable.
ARRRRRGHHHH! *Must play RB3D.* *Killing Red Baron will made matters better.*
Posted by Turtler
08/07/2010 at 09:32 PM
Geez, who woke up Turtler and got him all moody?
Thats Right OCM, we love killin all them furiners and we smile real big whe we do it.HOt damn, let just declare war on every damn country now and save the paperwork. Saddle up drew, We gots us a world to save!!
08/07/2010 at 07:12 PM
