Reciprocity

 

1. See here is what confuses me - here in OH and I’m sure most of the other Carry States - I have been through a background check. As my little card to be given to those businesses that chose not to allow me in says - I’ve passed a background check, do you know that about any of your other customers.

   And not only is it squirrelly within states - we have a local business that put up a no guns - but it wasn’t corporate policy. Shame on them (went with the local businesses in the area - most of whom have no gun signs up now).

   It will be nice (and ironic) to have the gay lobby actually get into ‘precedent’ the very ruling the gun carry lobby wants.

   Won’t that frost their pink pantied bottoms?!?

   Posted by wardmama4       09/14/2011  at  10:41 AM  



2. I forgot go to

   https://www.popvox.com/home

   You can see all the bills, where they are in the legislative process, who put it forth, which organizations support it and oppose it and then vote on it and send a note to your ‘representative’. Great little one stop site.

   Posted by wardmama4       09/14/2011  at  10:45 AM  



3. I don’t know anyone in the gay lobby, but if they were both honest and smart, they’d be all in favor of this, as should all the women’s groups.

   Any person who is part of a group that is subject to violence for being part of that group should carry. Period. Personally, I don’t think there should be a woman on the planet without a gun in her pocket.

   I like the idea of your card Wardmama, since I’ve been through just as fine a check myself. Not that my state LETS me exercise my 2A rights to BEAR.  And I’m not sure if those “no guns” signs are even legal. Private property vs public business ... it’s one thing that needs to be cleared up, along with calling the cops in when somebody is doing legal open carry. The gun rights movement has made great progress, but we aren’t there fully yet.

   Posted by Drew458       09/14/2011  at  11:02 AM  



4. My biggest problem is that there should be no need for permits to carry, concealed or not. Therefore no ‘reciprocity’ required. The Second Amendment says I can carry, period. Open carry is legal in Ohio. Though I recall asking our police liaison at our neighborhood association meeting about that. He said he’d arrest me for ‘inciting panic’ if I carried openly.

   I love those businesses Wardmama. They’re just advertising ‘Hit me! I’m unarmed!’ Had a bunch of them on my mail route.

   Posted by Christopher       09/14/2011  at  12:51 PM  



5. So, obeying the law is ‘inciting panic’? I think you need a new cop in your neighborhood, or else send this one off to the re-education camps. If he can’t tell the difference between legal carry and “brandishing in a threatening manner” then he does not deserve to wear a badge or draw a paycheck, period.

   I’d get out my gun and wear it, get arrested, then slap him and the local PD upside the head with a $150 million lawsuit.

   Posted by Drew458       09/14/2011  at  03:40 PM  



6. It’s not that I was ‘obeying the law’. I’ve know several men (and so far, it’s always men) who carry openly. But it would just take some one anti-gun nut to complain.

   Frankly, there are two places I’ve felt safe:

   1) any gun show in Ohio.
   Please, just start some shat in a gun show!

   2) Evanston, Wyoming.
   A place where the locals still carried a six-shooter on a gun-belt loaded with ammo. I hope that hasn’t changed since college. Guaranteed nobody was going to start a bar fight. I know, I was there.

   An armed citizenry is a polite citizenry. And, by correlation, not a ‘liberal-socialist-Democrat’ citizenry. If we get those, we get SEIU and other union thugs.

   Posted by Christopher       09/14/2011  at  03:57 PM  



7. We have a friend - who is big into carrying - he has been hassled numerous times for carrying - the last just this past week for open carrying. At the one Tea Party event - he had a city cop come up to him (after noticing the gun under his jacket (come on people how many criminals use a leather shoulder holster?) - and told him that he was required by law to come up to him (the cop) and tell him that he was carrying. Not so - here you are only required to inform, if the cop stops you for an infraction.

   It will be interesting for the next 14 months - lets just hope that (p)Resident Obama is too busy campaigning to do anything about gun control - although I expect due to the Fast & Furious dust-up - it’s a moot issue anyway.

   Posted by wardmama4       09/15/2011  at  08:50 AM  



8. I do frequently carry openly. I’ve got one of these:

   

   That’s a North American Arms 5-rnd .22. I carry it in plain view on my belt buckle:

   

   I know, not much stopping power. But better than nothing. I still remember a story from Florida some 15 years ago. A robbery was in progress in a restaurant. One of the patrons, an old man–60+ if I remember correctly–had one of these and stopped the robber. Period. Dead right there. Robber thought it was a toy. He’s probably still trying to figure out what killed him. This was shortly after that massacre in a Texas restaurant where the young lady actually had a firearm, but had left it in the car. Her parents were gunned down in front of her.

   Posted by Christopher       09/15/2011  at  09:49 AM  



9. Wardmama:  Does your state have a law on the books that offers penalties for those who try to coerce others under color of law (ie, by threatening them with penalties for violating a law that doesn’t exist?)

   Sounds like someone needs to make an example out of this police officer who was so obviously throwing his weight around, instead of carrying it.

   Posted by Argentium G. Tiger       09/17/2011  at  05:10 PM  

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