Posturing politicians, selling out your country
on 09/06/2015 at 11:16 AM
Same thing is happening in SoCal in ways that jackass Jerry Brown has no way of dealing with. Can’t wait till all those refugees from Bakersfield decide that Salem,Portland and Eugene are great places to resettle after burning up and bankrupting SoCal.
After that Tacoma and Seattle and then it’s off to Vancouver BC. How do you say Burrito in Canadian? Ham Sandwich!!
This guy talks a lot of sense https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https://youtu.be/cCOLcMqdpls&h=ZAQHOvwOw&s=1
This is the end of the West as we knew it. The bed wetters and communists have succeeded where the Ruskies failed.
On the plus side though http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11849429/Con-Coughlin-Good-riddance-to-British-terrorists.html
Hi Lyndon and thanks for the links. Especially #2. He’s right of course and I shudder to think what the future will look like. And it will look very bad.
As for the so called Brits killed in drone strikes, I don’t care if they were born here, they are no more British than Comrade Stalin or Hitler. I had the news on earlier on radio while doing other things, heard one or two questions raised with regard to legality. What jerks! They’re concerned about the legality of killing those rats who were planning to kill in home country. Just another of many examples of bed wetters thinking that will do for us in time. Heck, at my age I won’t see it end but I sure see the beginnings.
Anyone else curious what Drew is cooking up for labor day BBQ?
So whats on the menu Dru?
Whoever welcomes a refugee should have to let 5 or 6 move in with them. You know, to be fair.
JD you raise an interesting point and as it happens I have been debating this with some people I know. As you know my view are pretty far right of centre. However I have a problem with this. I don’t have an issue with the British governemnt kiling terrorists, but I do have an issue with my government carrying out extra judicial murder on British subjects.
Now irrespective of whether or not these people should really be classed as British or not, they still nominally held British passports. I would have no problem with this if the British gorvernment had the balls to withdraw their citizenship, but they don’t. They are scared of upsetting the UN.
The thing is a group of barons in the 11th Century got together to put a stop to the state taking arbitrary decisons on the life and death of Britons. It seems that this has all been swept away. Now if the state doesn’t like what a citizen is doing it can summararily execute them without due process. That doesn’t sit well with me. I am all for cleaning the clocks of jizzhat terrorists, don’t get me wrong, but before you take out a British citizen you need to get some kind of judicial oversight, otherwise Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights are just worthless scraps of paper.
Lyndon, at the signing of both B of R and Magna Carta, who could possibly have envisioned political correctness or the convoluted thinking of human rights lawyers. It can I really believe, be taken for granted that those who operate actively or encourage or support in any way, enemies of their home country, have said loud and clear, I am not English or American or French or whatever. They have by their actions demonstrated openly what they think and plan for the country they came from. They have turned their backs on Britain in this particular case. They are indeed ‘terrorists’ in act and thought. So then, how could their deaths be extra judicial killings or murders? Is it okay to kill terrorists but not those terrorists who belong to our countries?
I believe by their actions they place themselves quite outside the normal channels of the laws of the countries, whose citizens they vow to kill and maim. I regard all of them in the same light and deserving of the same end.I agree with you Jay, but the fact remains that under the law they are still British citizens and the state in my view doesn’t have the right to summarily execute people without due process. Strip their citizenship and they become foreigners and I could care less. However when the state takes on the power to kill British people without judicial oversight then you are heading for a police state. My beef is that the British government is too cowardly to strip these bastards of their British passports because they fear that they will become “stateless” and the UN might get upset. Its horse shit. Take away their citizenhip. They can apply to Pakistan or Bangladesh, they would doubtless qualify under ancestry and its bombs away, but the British government should not be killing its notional citizens without a trial or similar.
I more or less took it for granted that they have renounced their citizenship by their actions, and by doing so become non citizens.
This is really interesting. I follow your thinking, I understand what you are saying.
But on the other hand, once a person renounces citizenship, can the state say, oh no you don’t. We don’t care what you want, you are a citizen cos we , the state, say you are.
I’m thinking especially of that guy whose photo was in the fail this morning, who before leaving said, “I hate the UK”. What could be more clear? He hates it so much he leaves and joins forces dedicated to the destruction of the country he left. I can’t understand why he should have the right to any consideration under law. Do we really want him running free to carry out the promise of IS?
I think I’m asking for something that might not be strictly legal, as you rightly point out. But surely there are extenuating circumstances that warrant such action.
09/06/2015 at 07:56 PM
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