Moonbat Serenade
on 12/30/2005 at 04:07 AM
Lie with the scum, die with the scum. And good riddance. This is what happens to those who attempt to make a highroad out of gutters and sewers.
Donks, begone and be damned.
This is actually a real problem. Without a loyal (and competant) opposition our republic will have a very hard time maintaining the marketplace of ideas that we need for our own political vitality. It looks like the Democrats will have to totally disgrace themselves and implode before they can rise again. How much more damage with this do to the country before it happens?
Time for a third party, the Democratic Socialists. They could split from the Democratic party and leave that to the Liebermans and Millers and at least be honest about themselves. No doubt they’d pull a good crowd from the Greeens, the Naderites, the LaRouchies (well maybe a few of them), various socialist and moderate communist groups and some others and, in the process, allow the Dems, and to a far lesser the Reps, to flush themselves out and emerge as at least a sensible, viable and proper political party rather than a mish-mash of “whatever you think, as long as it hates Bush/Republicans” pile of pathetic clowns.
Remember, Cat, the last “third parties” that scared the shit of the 90% were those of Ross Perot and George Wallace.
Singularly altruistic candidates those, what?
Remember too that it was Ross Perot that got Clinton elected ... twice!
3rd parties jam up elections (Thank you for Slick Willie Mr. Perot), influence the major parties a bit and are otherwise useless. When’s the last time a 3rd party candidate won the Presidency?
It would simply get partisan on the level of the individual candidates. And as usual, the right money linked with the right mouth would win.
We have open primaries here in Ohio, OCM. You don’t declare party affiliation when you register and can vote in whichever primary you like. It’s definitely NOT non-partisan though and you can only vote in one party’s primary. I had planned to vote in the Dem primary last year but Joe Lieberman was gone by the time that circus came to town, so there was no point to it.
I’m all for a third party. It needs to first be built on the local level though, to get any real credibility and traction nationally.
No third party candidate has ever won the Presidency. The closest anyone came was Teddy Roosevelt in 1912 (Bull Moose Party). He lost to Democrat
HaroldWoodrow Wilson who promised to keep us out of the war in Europe. Guess what happened next?
I’m sure you meant Harold’s brother Woodrow, Skipper. Harold froze himself in stasis and became British Prime Minister in the sixties.
Woodrow waited until after his re-election, which he won on the slogan: “He Kept us Out of War”, before entering WW1.
Oops! Typo .... (must fix) ....
OK, Teddy Roosevelt almost made it. Do we have anyone of his caliber around? I’m worried about the lack of Statesmen and Stateswomen. The legions of the self serving who attain office by divide and conquer are huge. Politicians who actually care about the good of the country are relatively rare - almost as rare as citizens who take the time to actually evaluate the candidates.
I live in the People’s Republic of California. For $260 million, you too can own a state.
Now don’t write off Colin Powell. Interesting gent, but I don’t think that he’s interested in running for office. Going back to Viet Nam, we have John McCain (too many hits on the head during interrogation?), John Kerry (nuff said) and Randy “Duke” Cunningham (very disappointing). The Presidents growing out of that era are Bill Clinton (greatest abuse of a 2S Deferment I ever saw) and George Bush (who did what the rest of us wanted to do - get a cush Stateside billet while officially serving). hmmmm, the guys who stayed out of the fighting in Viet Nam seem to be more successful as politicians, that says a lot by itself. Who was it who said that anyone who actually wanted to be President of the U.S. should be automatically disqualified?
Arnie needs a bit more real world experience - he just wasn’t ready to deal with REAL politics.
That point was made by Powell’s advisors, OCM. That’s why he decided not to run --- ever. If I’m remembering correctly the story was that the white advisors were urging him to run but the ones who were black brought up the real possibility of assassination.
I’ll point out that the Rearend Jesse Jackson has already run for Pres. as well as Sharp Al the race baiter. Then there was Carol Mosely Braun who nobody seemed to notice.
Stin, I am convinced that the Rearend only ran to broaden his name recognition, and thus make himself more intimidating as a shakedown artist. Since he has become so successful at that, he would have to take a hefty pay cut if he became President, and besides, he might have to do a little work for a change. That could hardly appeal to him.
The other two, as far as I am concerned, hardly merit serious discussion, or even civil discourse.
