m’kay so. here’s the deal. store robbed and robbed and owner says no more service to certain ppl.
on 07/17/2009 at 10:36 AM
Watched a show called “Gang Nation” in the recent past. The show is produced by the BBC and fills people in on the various gangs from the various countries.
Jayd, I owe you an apology. I hadn’t realized just how pervasive these “people” are and what a serious threat they pose. What I learned watching the show is the Bulgarians seem to be running the show from the shadows. Shades of Boris & Natasha from the old “Rocky and Bullwinkle Show”. Jay Ward obviously must have dealt with such ones in real life. Boris and Natasha were far more “gentle” in their misbehavior than their modern real life counterparts.
It is absolutely appalling what the gypsies are allowed to get away with. The police stations over there seem to have a revolving door where the gypsies/travelers are concerned.
Prove positive, yet again, that being politically correct will get you robbed, injured, or killed. Then again, so many countries want to be seen as “civilized”. WERE they civilized, they’d be taking care of their people and dealing with the trash in such a way that others would be seriously discouraged from following the example of the miscreants.
Wonderful. Shades of Italy.
And you REALLY do not want to know what Italy was like.
However, my “fridge logic” makes me wonder what the HELL this person was doing putting THAT sign up in the first place. With that, you have things like this that can be used against him (justifiably or not, it does not matter in this case).
A similar sign that would have served the EXACT SAME purpose without raising such a stink would have been the old “this establishment reserves the right to deny service to anyone on any basis.” That way, you don’t open this up to a broadside like this while still getting what you want (after all, it’s not like you HAVE to state the reason you are ejecting them from the store).
The key to dealing with this pest is to be clever, be discerning (don’t go about icing ALL of them for what many of their number do), and above all be SMARTER than they are!
Posted by Turtler
07/17/2009 at 07:34 PM
Turtler is right the sign could have been better worded. Italy does have it’s problems with our Roma friends but also their proximity to Albania does them no favours. On a related note I see Canada has now woken up to the threat from gypsies and slapped a visa requirement on the Czech Republic. Quite why they left out Slovakia is a mystery. Maybe they assumed all the Slovak gypsies are on welfare in the UK so it wasn’t worth the effort? The “East European” gypsies are spread out over numerous countries. Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic and Slovakia plus Bulgaria and Romania. Canada still has a visa requirement for Romania and Bulgaria but is under pressure from the EU to remove it. The old threat of a tit for tat visas requiremnt is a bit of an empty threat though since not many Canadians are interested in going for a two week holiday in Bulgaria! The EU could possibly bring in a visa requirement for the Schengen countries which would be a more serious threat but I don’t see that happening.
Valgerd from my involvment in such matters the really nasty gangs in London are run by the Albanians. They originally came to Britain as “asylum seekers” claiming to be “Kosovan” the reality was that amongst some genuine refugees (that just happened to cross half a dozen frontiers to seek sanctuary in Britain) were some hard core mafia types who think nothing of killing people in the line of business (prostitution and drugs). The Roma that are from Eastern Europe tend to run their own prostitution cartels and traffick women from places like the Ukraine. Being EU citizens it is damn near impossible to exclude them from Britain.
Turtler is right. When one has a chance to sit back and think things through, his sign suggestion makes more sense then what the store owner did. I suppose that after 18months of problems the keystone folks couldn’t solve, he took that route.
But this being Britain, and Lyndon please correct me cause I am not 100% sure of this, I suspect that even the sign Turtler suggests might come under official scrutiny by the politically pandering, politically correct thought police.
This is just an aside. I don’t see how a sign that says a store won’t serve travellers/gypsies is by itself “hate speech.” There isn’t a call to harm anyone. There aren’t any words to “incite” mayhem or violence. But ain’t it funny how easy it is to twist things.
Valgerd. Thanks for that phrase. Couldn’t resist using it cause it fits and it is TRUE!
LyndonB, it sounds to me like it’s a most healthy thing to avoid going to *once* Great Britain or the EU. It seems one puts one’s life and possessions into the “tender mercies” of the Gypsies, Travellers, or whatever the catch name of the day is. Gods know it seems they have more rights than the locals. Shades of “Animal Farm” and the slogan “some animals are more equal than others”.
Peiper, glad to be of help.
07/18/2009 at 01:27 PM
