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Posted by The Skipper    United States   on 03/21/2006 at 05:39 PM   
 
  1. “Then the sensitive Leftist establishment, with a keen eye toward freedom of speech and a dedication to tolerance responded thusly ....

    Exactly like I’m always saying: When it comes to debate, the Left’s favorite first tactic is censorship.

    in_jail

    Posted by Jester    United States   03/21/2006  at  07:25 PM  

  2. Same thing happened here in the peoples republic of Minneapolis.The local rag the Star Tribune hired a columnist named Katherine Kersten and 3/4 of the city wet their pants LOL Powerline has fun with it sometimes.The day after her colums the op-ed page is almost nothing but angry letters about how she wants to goose step over the rights of oppressed minorities etc.It’s really good for a laugh crazy

    Posted by kingaljr    United States   03/21/2006  at  07:47 PM  

  3. Skipper: Let me straighten you out about Redstate.  Redstate is a fake Conservative blog that does the National Association of Manufacturer’s (NAM) bidding.  NAM’s President is former Republican Governor of Michigan, Engler.  The Michigan Manufacturer Association is a sales site for Blue Cross of MichiganAmy Shaw is the MMA lobbyist and her phone number is (517) 291-6330.  Neil Trautwein is the head of NAM HR Policy and his number is (202) 637-3127.  Neil’s wife is the EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR of the National Association of Health Underwriters (NAHU)Leann Wilson is NAM’s COO and her number is (202) 637-3112. 

    Redstate banned me because I support President Bush’s HSA program.  Redstate lets people bash the President and they are not banned.  If you support President Bush and his reforms heading to all US manufacturers, you will be banned.  Blue Cross has all these politicians bought off from both political parties.

    Billionaire Dick Devos is running for Governor in Michigan as we speak.  Devos was on the NAM board when they hired Former Governor Engler.  It’s just a good ole boys’ game and to hell with the citizens. 

    To make a very long story short: fuckyou Redstate you Liberal liars bought off by special interest groups who sell Blue Cross.  Conservative indeed.

    We need one smart Senator in Washighton D.C., Vote Zandstra for U.S. Senate (Michigan) flag

    http://www.jerryzandstra.com

    Posted by Z Woof    United States   03/21/2006  at  07:47 PM  

  4. Oh boy, I thought this would be simple until I read Z Woof’s comment.  Woof, he may be a shill, but at least he’s progress.

    Ladies and gentlemen, the “liberal” reaction to the the Post about one “conservative” writer has a lot to do with why I no longer class myself as a liberal.  Today’s liberals aren’t.  To me, being liberal includes having an open mind and being able to engage in a rational and polite debate on the issues of the day.  Strangely enough, the folks here at BMEWS come a lot closer to my idea of being liberal than let’s say, Michael Moore.  In the old days, about 40 or 50 years ago, conservatives were represented by the likes of Lester “Axe Handle” Maddox, Sheriff Clark and George Wallace.  Today, how would you define a conservative?  Everyone I’ve seen here is open to ideas - they might disagree, but they’ll look at them first.  We’re all pretty much pro U.S.A. (doesn’t seem too strange to love your country).  We all carry core values, usually faith based, but not always, that we use to guide us in our life decisions.  We all believe in the freedom of the individual to make his or her way in the world.  I hate to say, but you folks are my kind of liberal! 
    loveyou

    Posted by Dr. Jeff    United States   03/21/2006  at  10:37 PM  

  5. GACK! Dr. J called us ... LIBERALS! I need to go take a bath! I been slimed (a la Bill Murray).

    (actually I agree with Dr. J. The fascist, radicals are all on the Left and the true progressives are on the Right- strange, but true)

    I’ve been screamed at and cussed at while at DailyKos and a few other “Liberal” blogs. The rage is scarey. Really scarey.

    Posted by The Skipper    United States   03/22/2006  at  12:02 AM  

  6. Set down and pay attention.  This is for your own good.  Do you know what your country is?

    Code Blue
    Health Care In Crisis
    Edward R. Annis, M.D.

    Code Blue: Health Care In Crisis, by Edward R. Annis, MD, 278 pp., Hardcover, Index, $21.95, ISBN: 0-89526-515-X, Washington, DC, Regnery Gateway, 1993. (Available through Hacienda Publishing, Inc. via special arrangement with Regnery.)

    Book Review

    Americans enjoy the best medical care in the history of the world, but our system is being destroyed by government regulation, by the socialist principles embodied in the Medicare and Medicaid systems, and by the liberal social policies our society has followed over the last half century: that is the theme of Code Blue: Health Care In Crisis, by Dr. Edward R. Annis, past president of both the American Medical Association (AMA) and the World Medical Association, and one of America’s most distinguished physicians. He tells us what the “liberal press” has consistently hidden: that the problem is government, not health care, that all of the problems in health care have a “made in Washington” label, and that the current health care “crisis” is simply a crisis in government mismanagement. Unfortunately, most Americans, including many of our leaders in organized medicine, are not aware of this.

    The first of the book’s two parts, “The Golden Age of Medicine,” is both an autobiography and a description of the “good-old-days.” In part 2, “Uncovering the Hidden Truth,” Dr. Annis discusses the mistaken ideas and social policies that he feels have led to our current predicament. The last chapter, “What’s the Solution?” gives his prescription for removing government interference and allowing the system to recover.

    As Annis describes it, the spread of socialist ideas in this country began over 50 years ago, when a sister organization to the English Fabian society was formed in New York. It quickly evolved into a socialist group known as the Americans for Democratic Action. Because socialism was unpopular even then, the Americans for Democratic Action adopted the Fabian tactics of “permeation” in order to transplant socialist ideas into both major political parties and of “gradualism,” designed to socialize American medicine by stages. He feels this strategy eventually resulted in the passage of the first stage, the Medicare program, in 1965.

    Dr. Annis relates the dramatic story of how he was thrust into the presidency of the AMA in the early 1960s, prior to the passage of Medicare. He was an effective and articulate voice for organized medicine, having personally debated, among others, Hubert Humphrey and Walter Reuther. In his famous Madison Square Garden television appearance in 1962, he directly challenged the President of the United States on national television. Projecting into the future, he correctly predicted that the Medicare scheme would “put the government smack into your hospitals, defining services, setting standards, establishing committees, calling for reports, deciding who gets in and who gets out, what they get and what they don’t, even getting into the teaching of medicine and all the time imposing a federally administered financial budget on our houses of mercy and healing.”

    As he correctly predicted, our system currently “is ‘under siege’ by a bungling bureaucracy beyond our control. [It] is subjected to the perverse incentives of arbitrary price-fixing, utilization review, concurrent review, retrospective review, and retroactive denial of payment - making health care the most heavily regulated industry in the history of our nation.... Imagine the bureaucratic enormity of annually monitoring 22 million admissions and discharges at 7000 hospitals with 467 diagnosis-related groups plus 350 million charges from half a million doctors with 7000 different encoded procedures.” He notes that last year hospitals lost $9 billion on Medicare patients and that since 1970 the cost of Medicare has doubled every five years. “By now the truth of this axiom should be obvious: ‘Government has no solutions, government is the problem.’

    Dr. Annis’ leadership of the AMA in the early 1960s, with his championing of the principles of individual rights and free markets, is in sharp contrast to the philosophy of the current AMA leadership, who refuse to confront the current administration but instead seem satisfied to ask for a “seat at the table.”

    Annis believes that failed liberal social policies are compounding the current health care crisis. Over the past 25 years, we have spent over a trillion dollars on the “war on poverty,” yet our illegitimate birth rate has increased by 85%. Unfortunately our minorities have been hardest hit by this disintegration of the family, the very groups the “Great Society” policies promised to benefit. His point is well made: “No amount of free food, no amount of free medical care, no amount of income redistribution will induce people to act responsibly.” He also believes that understanding and correcting these problems have been made more difficult, thanks to our news media campaign of “myth-information," which advances the “socialist notion of ‘entitlement,’ the notion that health care is a ‘right,’ just like life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which are ‘free’ and guaranteed under the Constitution.”

    In evaluating President Clinton’s proposed “managed competition,” the author observes: ...the Clinton plan promises the impossible. Government cannot preserve high quality health care, prompt service, and freedom of choice without allowing patients to pay their own bills and without allowing health care providers the freedom to meet demand; Government cannot reduce the regulatory burden or control fraud under a third-party payer system; government cannot apply price controls without creating shortages and rationing care; and government cannot strengthen the economy by limiting total health care spending any more than it can boost the economy by limiting what we spend on shoes. If government could solve problems through central planning and budgeting, the Soviet Union would be the sole surviving superpower and the United States would have collapsed; West Germany would have been taken in by East Germany; and North Korea would be the envy of South Korea.

    Dr. Annis believes that our health care system can be reformed by surprisingly few changes. As he points out, “Finagle all they will, bureaucrats and entrepreneurs will never overcome the problem of excessive costs without correcting the basic flaw: the system of third-party payers, whether government or corporate.” With minimal changes in our tax laws, Medisave Accounts would empower the patient by breaking the tie between job and health insurance and even would allow the gradual phasing out of Medicare. Annis also would eliminate all state-mandated insurance “benefits” and reform our tort laws.

    Code Blue is written from a conservative point of view. It certainly is not a balanced presentation of all the options currently available to us for health care reform. Nonetheless, it provides valuable material for the health care professional, medical executive, government policymaker, and every American who would better understand our current health care debate.

    Reviewed by Jerome C. Arnett, Jr., MD, FCCP, Elkins, West Virginia.

    Reprinted in the Medical Sentinel, Spring 1996 - Vol 1, No. 1, pp. 39-40, with permission from the Journal of the American Medical Association, July 6, 1994 - Vol 272, No. 1, pp.74-75, Copyright © 1994, American Medical Association.

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    In 1996 the “Medisave Accounts” were renamed Medical Savings Accounts (MSA) and a Secret Government Test was enacted, called “The Original Pilot Test.” On December 13th 2003 President Bush renamed MSAs to HSAs and made the tax-dodge bigger, better and bolder, and now all Americans can go tax free with an HSA.

    Between 1996 and 2003, 100,000 Americans went tax free with an MSA.  In 2004 another 900,000 Americans went tax free with HSAs.  In 2005 Tax Free HSA enrollments boast another 2 million for a grand total of 3,000,000 HSAs today out of 300,000,000 Americans.  So, 1% of the American population has gone tax free. 

    If one man fights for what is right, and 3 million more agree, there is no Great Society. - tune - FZ

    We need one smart Senator in Washington D.C., Vote Zandstra for US Senate (Michigan) flag

    Posted by Z Woof    United States   03/22/2006  at  07:22 AM  

  7. Here is some more supporting material for voting for Jerry Zandstra, Tom Tancredo, Pat Buchanan, and other True American Patriots.

    I didn’t write this up, I recently got it from a good like-minded friend of over 25 years:

    I don’t quite see all immigration as “the devil” portrayed here but in
    regards to devaluing the culture of the majority, it is all true. :rulez: soapbox

    The American Dream?

    Think something like this isn’t happening? Scary, it is happening as you
    read this…

    We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context
    his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an
    immigration over-population conference in Washington, DC, filled to
    capacity by many of American’s finest minds and leaders. A brilliant
    college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his
    latest book, “Mexifornia,” explaining how immigration - both legal and
    illegal - was destroying the entire state of California. He said it
    would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The
    American Dream.

    Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and
    gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat
    spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the
    United States. He said, If you believe that America is too smug, too
    self-satisfied, too rich, then let’s destroy America. It is not that
    hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time Arnold
    Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that ‘An
    autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.”

    Here is how they do it,” Lamm said: “First, to destroy America, turn
    America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country.”
    History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and
    antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a
    blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for
    a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset,
    put

    it this way: “The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that
    do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.”
    Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national
    existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence.
    Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic

    rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basque Bretons, and
    Corsicans.”

    Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, “Invent ‘multiculturalism’ and
    encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an
    article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no
    cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black
    and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and
    discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of
    bounds.

    Third, “We could make the United States a ‘Hispanic Quebec’ without much
    effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin
    Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: “The apparent success of
    our own multiethnic and multi-cultural experiment might have been
    achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that
    once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we
    are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us
    together.” Lamm said, “I would encourage all immigrants to keep
    their

    own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with
    the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various
    cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather
    than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.”

    “Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least
    educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated,
    and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass
    have a 50% dropout rate from high school”

    “My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations
    and business to give these efforts lots of money. I
    would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of

    ‘Victimology.’ I would get all minorities to think that their lack of
    success was the fault of the majority I would start a grievance industry
    blaming all minority failure on the majority population.”

    “My sixth plan for America’s downfall would include dual citizenship,
    and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity.
    I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people
    worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they
    are not killing each other. A. diverse, peaceful, or stable society is
    against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes
    to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks
    believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common
    language and literature; and they worshiped the same gods. All Greece
    took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their
    liberty.Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two
    factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured
    political divisions. Greece fell. E. Pluribus Unum”—From many, one.
    In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the ‘pluribs’
    instead of the ‘Unum,’ we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo.”

    “Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to
    talk about anything against the cult of diversity.’ I would find a word
    similar to ‘heretic’ in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and
    paralyzed thinking. Words like ‘racist’ or ‘xenophobe’ halt discussion
    and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having
    established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the
    doctrine of ‘Victimology,’ I would next make it impossible to enforce
    our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because
    immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would
    make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative
    impact of millions of them.”

    In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound
    silence followed. Finally he said,. “Lastly, I would censor Victor
    Hanson Davis’s book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the
    plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed,
    don’t read that book.”

    There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous
    cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that
    room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically,
    quietly, darkly yet pervasively across the United States today
    Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the
    foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness.
    Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing
    as we celebrate ‘diversity.’ American jobs are vanishing into the
    Third

    World as corporations create a Third World in. America - take note of
    California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and
    growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell’s book 1984.” In that
    storyslogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: “War is
    peace,” “Freedom is slavery,” and “Ignorance is strength.”

    Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the
    conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is
    deeply in trouble and worsening fast if we don’t get this immigration
    monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California
    wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American
    Dream .
    So, when do we as a nation, wake up and retake our country, require
    English as the national language once again, STOP illegal immigration,
    and unite for the good of our country? It is past time to drop the ACLU
    and reunite as we did during WWII. Yes, we were all young in those days,
    but we still remember the support for the troops, support for the war
    effort, and support for our country and freedoms.

    Posted by Rat Patrol    United States   03/22/2006  at  08:27 AM  

  8. Sure, sure OCM.  You want a polite debate. 

    Didn’t you just say, “I wish Z Woof’s Dad never met his Mom,” question

    That’s just one reason I think we need a cat cat hunting season.  cat  gun

    Posted by Z Woof    United States   03/22/2006  at  09:33 AM  

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