Just Terrible
For some reason my wife utterly hates this woman. Beats me why.
So ask her. Inquiring minds and all that.
As to the ad, It must be for those already in the bag after imbibing in the captains swell swill.I honestly don’t know about that. It’s a piss-poor warship from the looks of it fer sure, but I must point out that that’s not necessarily incorrect. Indeed, while Hollywood and the Rules of Drama and Large Explosions might make you think otherwise, it must be noted that not ever pirate actually had a proper warship. Those thngs were actually very rare and hard to take. Far more common to just buy/steal a regular merchant ship and modify it for combat use.
That looks like one such example IMHO.
But on another note, what the HELL did I just watch?
Posted by Turtler
10/07/2010 at 05:52 PM
The ship looks like it’s from the early to mid 1500s… looks almost like the Pinta or something. The cutlass.... is that a cutlass? I thought cutlasses were heavier bladed, almost like a really long cleaver. That looks more like an officer’s sword to me.
Sorry to interupt this thread but the WAR is officially ON.
http://spectator.org/blog/2010/10/07/clinton-appointee-rules-obamacThanks Rich. Yes, the revolution is on.
Turtler, Grumpy-
Yes, the hull design is ancient. It looks like a caravel or a carrack, a Pinta-era ship of the 1400-1600 timeframe. Such ships had square sails, lots of them. They also had lateen sails sometimes. These are huge, upside down triangles with a giant boom on top. The modern sail as we recognize - a triangle with the boom on the bottom - it didn’t come about ( hur hur, a boating pun ) until the late 1600s, but this sail design, called the Bermuda rig, was not fit to a large ship for several hundred years. It was the sail used on very tiny boats.
The ship in the video is some dolled up Hollywood daydream, with overly dramatic extensions to the fore and aft castles (cabin areas higher than the main deck). That gives it that “Pinta” look, synonymous with pirates in some producer’s mind. Even if by some miracle a real ship of that design was actually rigged the way it’s shown here, the sail area is idiotically small. The ship could barely move. The sails should be about 10 times bigger.
Interesting links on ships, pirate ships, and the size and kind of sails on them, across the centuries:
http://www.thepiratesrealm.com/pirate%20ship.html
http://www.thepiratesrealm.com/carrack.html
http://pirateshold.buccaneersoft.com/pirate_ships.htmlsabers vs. cutlasses - I would think a pirate would use whatever kind of sword he could lay hands on. Granted that today we think of cutlasses as being shorter and beefier than a cavalry saber, but that may not have always been the case.
Compare the US Cavalry saber of 1913, designed by George Patton
http://www.auctionarms.com/closed/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=9139596.0
to the US Navy cutlass of 1917 (which was produced until 1956 and used in combat in both WWII and Korea!)
http://arms2armor.com/Swords/1917var1.htm
Quite similar in hilt and guard design, similar in weight as well. (ie heavy as hell)
I’ve held a Patton saber. No bones about it, this is a deadly weapon made for fighting. Serious steel, no fancy bits. Yet his saber had a straight blade, and a curved blade is almost by definition what makes a saber a saber. The Navy cutlass had a curved blade, though by near-universal consensus cutlasses had straight blades.
So to me ... if it’s a pirate sword of any size or shape, it’s a cutlass. Because that’s what pirates fight with. Aaargh!!
Sorry for harshing your buzz Drew. Its OK though as I have a new hobby.
How to deconstruct a W84 and reassemble below the senate chamber in time for christmas.Ah. I thought I recognized that design, but I couldn’t put it at first.
And yes, I will confirm that these things actually were active in the Carribbean and they were actually used by pirates. Particularly the first waves across (basically Western- French, English, Dutch, Scandinavian, etc- privateers with even lower standards of conduct). Unsurprisingly, these guys were the very first across and generally written off as “fire and forget” weapons by the mother country, and so funding and a warship worth a damn were far, FAR out of their normal capabilities. And since the caravels/carracks of the day were your average Atlantic trading vessel (and were fairly cheap to outfit to the extent that spending the equivalent of a few million dollars in highly disposble and unreliable weaponry was cheap), they tended to be what they sailed across. Naturally, they usually had larger sails, but beyond that they tended to be just as bad as what we saw.
Unsurprisingly, there was a reason their use was mainly limited to the first wave across: the Spanish and Portugese use of frigates tended to mean they had an unquestionable dominance in engagements even early on, and the developments of the Galleon and Man o War at the very end of the period was the final nail in the coffin. Call it evolution at work. By the end, the pirates that were still operating there without the consent of Lisbon or Madrid had learned from the mistakes of their predecessors and brought over ships that wouldn’t fall apart and be caught adrift by lucky shots in the center.
Posted by Turtler
10/07/2010 at 10:56 PM
And now for something completely different:
PHOENIX (AP)—An Arizona woman accidentally glued an eye shut when she mistook super glue for her eye drops. KSAZ-TV said Irmgard Holm of Glendale had cataract surgery a year ago. She was reaching for what she thought was one of her half-dozen eye drop medications.
Dont Worry,She’s Fine, But that is damn funny.
I thrive on the history lessons but I HAVE to ask.
Drew, What drew you to the video to begin with? Surely you weren’t looking just for this model. Were you? I have to echo Turtler here. What the hell did I just watch? Is that for a movie or a perfume add? Too funny. Leave it to you to find this stuff. Of course this now mwans I’m going to have to spend lots of time reading those links. Especially the ships. Hard to resist that.
Yeah I gotta admit, the Marconi rig is out of place on that hull. During that period probably most likely would be square rig up front, lateen rig on the mizzen.
Nothing more than eye candy Peiper, but then I saw that boat and it just made me itch.
The video is a teaser for an ad campaign.
Is this a real movie?
If it is, it’s a bowdlerized version of the Jenna Jameson classic XXX hit Conquest.
Don’t tell my wife… ah Hell, she watched it with me.
Looks like an ad for Captain Morgan…
From the copyrights at the end, I am correct..
The original hull looks more like a Russian trawler than a caravel, however, there were as many designs as there were ships back then, with different hulls for different countries as well as stylistic differences between ship builders.. Even ships built on a standard pattern by the military shipbuilders could be considerably different.
Just a thought…
Billbtw, yes, she is hot…
10/08/2010 at 04:16 AM
