IS ENGLAND ABOUT TO BE SOLD OUT ? STAY TUNED.
I will have been here four years on April 28th. Almost from the beginning of my stay I have noticed a gradual willingness, or so it seems to me, for this island to give away their sovereignty a fraction at a time. I have watched as the power of political correctness has invaded the lives of many. And the population is powerless to do anything about it.
Well, what are you (they) prepared to do?
Good Lord, if this doesn’t cause mass protests I don’t know what will. Even the daft froggies knew enough to vote this crap down.
And if the EU constitution was rejected, and the treaty that replaces it has only minor changes, then how can the treaty not be constitutional in nature? A referendum IS needed.
Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand more days, men will still say, ‘This was their final hour.’
That’s the problem in a nutshell: What are you prepared to do?
When Hitler first started taking back the contested territory between Germany and France, a division or two could have taken him. But nobody was willing or prepared to go back to war.
I honestly believe that we have reached the point where nothing short of the collapse of the current governments of the US and the UK at the very *least* will fix this. And yet I find that even if I had the resources, I would hesitate to utterly destroy the US Capitol building and the White House with everyone in them. Nor am I certain that would be enough, you’d probably have to do the same to every state capitol as well.
It has been so long since an American has had to ACTUALLY struggle for survival just in the process of living his life and providing for his loved ones that we’ve forgotten what making hard decisions IS. What most Americans seem to *think* are hard decisions are things like whether to continue driving a car that’s old enough to have been paid for to avoid going into further debt on a new one, or whether to turn up the temperature on the A/C during the summer to save a little money. And that’s the GROWNUPS. The next generation feels put upon by having to decide to only get ONE of the 3 newest video games. And yes, that includes those on welfare.
And our “leaders”, or rather our sheepdogs, encourage this. When the number of people spending money they don’t have goes down, they worry. When the number of people defining thier entire lives by how much they THROW AWAY goes down, they worry. A *lack of irresponsibility* is a major cause for concern.I dunno guys. I’ve tried for years to reconcile it with the assumption that our governments are run by people who are SANE, and I simply can’t do it.
Too many things to comment on here. Both from the original article and the comments.
Let’s see now:
Manifesto Commitment - Somehow that sounds an awful lot like the party platforms put forth at the political conventions. Are they in any sense legally binding? Somehow, I doubt it. Regardless, Parliament seems to be determined to use the difference between the words “treaty” and “constitution” to do what they want. I haven’t read either document yet, but I’m quite willing to believe that the “Treaty” and the “Constitution” are functionally equal, yet are being treated differently by Parliament. It just seems too much like the doings of arrogant politicians who have come to believe that they should make decisions without regard for the good of their constituents. GOF, it’s not a lack of sanity, it’s an extreme case of arrogance. They p*ss on our backs and tell us it’s raining. A lot of people tend to believe them. I don’t know of many times that politicians have been turned out of office for these kind of shenanigans.
Interestingly, one happened here in California in the late 1980’s. More recently, it happened here again with term limits. Each time the politicos screamed “How can you do this to us?” They just never really got it. How could they show so little regard for their constituents and expect not to be turned out of office? You see, even in the land of Fruits and Nuts, even with the locks on power that the crazier Democrats have used to stifle dissent, sometimes the people still prevail. Good luck to my British cousins, have a pint and square your shoulders, you’ve got some work to do.
My second point was also touched on by GOF. Because of who we are, because we are so rich, with so many opportunities, we don’t have to struggle as so many around the world have to struggle. If by mistake of judgment or some mischance, we find ourselves stripped of our fortunes, we won’t starve and we’re not likely to be without shelter. We will have relatively lean years while we rebuild our status and our bank accounts, but that’s about it. I like it that way and I think it’s worth preserving. If some amount of Unemployment Insurance or even welfare is added on top, life gets even easier. If we go the way of England and Europe, we will lose the wealth of opportunities and be left with welfare.
I believe this will ultimately be the undoing of Labour. Europe has for many years been a source of unrest with the Conservatives. A large minority of tory MP’s want out of Europe. However Labour a few years back also wanted out. Now though they have seen how good the gravy train is in Europe and they all want a turn. Ultimately the EU will fail. It will go the same way as the USSR. They have lied to us for years about the supposed benefits of belonging to the EEC which has morphed into the European Union. As a trade bloc it worked fine but trying to build a United States of Europe is never going to work. T
Dr. Jeff is correct, the manifesto pledges are not legally binding. However these pricks promised their constituents a chance to vote. They know that the likely result would be a no vote. So to spare themselves embarrassment they have ignored the will of the people. This will return to haunt them at the next election. The results in May’s local elections will be interesting. I predict it will be a disaster for Labour. Some of the Liberals even voted contrary to their leaders instruction. They did this because they know if they didn’t their constituents would punish them at the next election. This fight isn’t over by a long shot.
I will be voting for the UK Independence Party at the next election. Though if my plans come to fruition I will no longer be a UK citizen so it may prove irrelevant.Hi Lyndon,
Sorry to hear that you may be giving up your UK citizenship. It’s a sad day when something like that becomes your best option. I suppose the exception to that might be emigrating to someplace with greater opportunity, the way my Grandparents did. Still, I know that they would have preferred to stay in Ireland and Austria-Hungary.
Me too, I pray I can take what little I have left and cross the atlantic, few people I know want to see this, If there was mass will to do something it would allready be done, or more likely the parties would not have risked it.
Posted by Chris Edwards
03/06/2008 at 03:48 PM
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