Ironic?

 

1. I guess it’s ok to let her vote but I don’t think we should let her become Governor of an American state because she is from Canada.  That’s why I believe we should get the Canadian Governor of Michigan to resign.

   The Canadian Michigan Governor tried to make it first in Hollywood and when that failed she became a Democrat and became the “once great state” of Michigan’s Governor.

   Now the state is going to hell in a hand basket.  Michigan has the highest unemployment rate in America.  But old male Republicans over 60 say, “She might not be any good but she sure is pretty.” So she might be tough to beat in the 2006 election because old Republican men in Michigan like the way she smiles, pathetic. NOT!!!!

   Posted by Z Woof       02/18/2005  at  07:02 AM  



2. I am happy for Alanis and I like the fact that this is a least one counter example to the liberal exodus to Canada. I am not sure how everyone else feels about dual citizenship, but someone pointed out to me that the oath of citizenship in the first paragraph declares that the person renounces all other citizenships. She is still holding on to her Canadian citizenship.

   Posted by Buckeye Kev       02/18/2005  at  10:13 AM  



3. I think she is a little moonbatty already. She always seemed to me to be the type that appealed to the vegetarian/alternative music crowd. Maybe she is doing an Alice Cooper and going from nut case to conservative.

   Posted by LC Geno       02/18/2005  at  11:46 AM  



4. Here’s a brainbreaker for ya:
   Alanis Morrisette wrote the song Ironic.  She won a Grammy for that album (Jagged Little Pill).  But she was wrong.  It’s not irony she’s describing in that song. They are sets of unfortunate circumstances, not examples of irony.

   What is ironic is that she won a Grammy for the song Ironic when she doesn’t know the definition of irony.

   Posted by Riggs       02/18/2005  at  12:32 PM  



5. I am a naturalized US citizen.  Did it on Valentine’s day, 1975.  DAMN!  I completely forgot!  The USG should have sent a Valentine’s Day card to its 30 year anniversary sweetheart---ME!

   Anyway, I had to renounce my citizenship BUT that did not mean I could not keep DUAL citizenship from those countries that allow it (because the USG can not tell another sovereign nation what it can do)

   I have two passports.  One Brazilian.  One US.  When I go to Brazil I leave the country on my Brazilian passport as it gives me BENEFITS in Brazil to do so.  When I return I use my US passport.  They look at it, see I have no stamps and ask why.  I show my Brazilian passport and they wave me through.

   HOWEVER---if I were to ever get in a scrape and in order to avoid prosecution or get away or whatever and used my BRAZILIAN passport, then I would forfeit my rights to being an American.

   That’s how I understand the law.

   If I get in trouble I am an American and need to take it like an American.  I can not use a different country’s passport and then later go crying to the US Embassy to bail me out of a jam.

   Anyone else having more info is welcome to chime in.

   Posted by Vilmar       02/18/2005  at  12:48 PM  



6. Vilmar is 100% correct about being able to maintain dual citizenship, regardless of the oath.

   I was surprised by the news that Morissette was keeping her Canadian citizenship, because I didn’t think the USCIS (formerly the INS) allowed a naturalized citizen to retain citizenship with a foreign country.

   The Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America, is rather strongly worded, and implies that you’re giving up any other citizenship.

   “I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.”

   Well it turns out that as much as the USCIS (and the United States government) would like to be the sole arbiters in this matter, they’re not. The matter of whether a person can retain their original citizenship with another country when they are granted U.S. Citizenship rests solely with the original country. The site: Dual Citizenship within the United States has a list of countries, and what they will do with regards to the citizenship of one of their citizens when they acquire U.S. Citizenship.

   Canada does not strip Canadians of their citizenship when they acquire U.S. Citizenship. (No surprise here, if there’s any chance a Canadian will ever return to Canada, they want the primary right to tax them, although with the 10 year expatriate provision in the U.S. tax code, that could become exciting...)

   Japan will strip a person’s citizenship if they take U.S. Citizenship. Again, no surprise.  Japan is incredibly xenophobic when it comes to non-Japanese citizens.

   So now you know.

   Posted by Argentium G. Tiger       02/19/2005  at  07:20 AM  

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