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Posted by Drew458    United States   on 09/08/2013 at 12:47 PM   
 
  1. Oh look, an open thread,lucky me.

    Wonder who else sidestepped congress on going to war? Not just Obozo but Wilson did it without provocation( the Lusitania was an excuse,nothing more), Truman did it and called it a “police action”, Johnson did it with his phony Gulf of Tonkin BS. Amazing how many D party Presidents have ignored the constitution in the last 100 years.Where as Taft did not go to war,nor Harding or Coolidge or Hoover or Eisenhower or Nixon either.Looks to me like it’s almost always a D party guy who takes us to war. Funny that Huh.

    Posted by Rich K    United States   09/08/2013  at  06:08 PM  

  2. And how often do those D guys actually let us win?

    Don’t forget ... thousands of US soldiers still waste their TDYs at Camp Bondasteel, policing the locals in Kosovo ... troops Clinton said would be “home by Christmas” 1999. Generations later, and we still have thousands there ... protecting the heroin trade?

    Posted by Drew458    United States   09/08/2013  at  11:18 PM  

  3. Sorry Rich K but you have it wrong.  That ship was sunk in May of 1915, two years before we entered the war.
    Read about the Zimmerman telegram. Once that’s done, you’ll know why Wilson (who I don’t care much for) declared war on Germany. 
    Had Teddy been president, we’d have been in it in 1914.

    Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   09/09/2013  at  03:02 AM  

  4. Teddy was the first card carrying RINO in the party in my opinion. Explains why he made a mess of the Philipines.Also why he bailed on the R party when they chose Taft over his arrogant ass.As for Mexico I have only this to add ,via wikipedia; Mexico, unable to match the U.S. military, ignored the proposal and (after the U.S. entered the war), officially rejected it.

    Posted by Rich K    United States   09/09/2013  at  05:19 AM  

  5. Key point of the Zimmerman train wreck;
    Mexican President Venustiano Carranza assigned a general to assess the feasibility of a Mexican takeover of their former territories.[6] The general concluded that it would not be possible or even desirable for the following reasons:

    If the Mexicans had tried to provoke a war with the United States, then it would have proven to be futile, as they would have easily been forced into submission.
    Germany’s promises of “generous financial support” could not have been possible. Mexico could not possibly buy the arms, ammunition, or other war supplies for the very reason that the U.S. was the only sizable arms manufacturer in the Americas. To make matters worse, the British Royal Navy controlled the Atlantic sea lanes, so Germany could not be counted on to supply Mexico with war supplies directly.
    If by some chance Mexico had the military means to win the conflict with the U.S. and retake the area in question, Mexico would have had severe difficulty accommodating the large, primarily English-speaking population who were well supplied with guns and ammunition.
    Other foreign relations were at stake. Mexico had cooperated with the so-called ABC nations in South America to prevent a war with the U.S., generally improving relations all around. If Mexico were to enter war against the U.S. it would strain relations with those same ABC nations. Brazil would eventually declare war on Germany, angered by Germany’s unrestricted submarine warfare on its ships, although the others remained neutral.

    Posted by Rich K    United States   09/09/2013  at  05:26 AM  

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