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Posted by Christopher    United States   on 08/20/2011 at 03:33 PM   
 
  1. My thanks to ASM and you too Christopher. Why didn’t I think of that? Blk and Wht on that shot is nice. Dramatic I’d say.  Funny how easy it is to forget black and white photos for that kind of subject.

    Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   08/20/2011  at  03:28 PM  

  2. That’s why I hate it when they ‘colorize’ old B&W classic movies. They aren’t ‘dramatic’ anymore. Imagine colorizing ‘The Ghost and Mrs. Muir’? Doesn’t work.

    Posted by Christopher    United States   08/20/2011  at  03:33 PM  

  3. You think you fixed it? I don’t think so. You turned what looked like a romantic setting, conjuring up a look of the Old South of wisteria hanging from the trees and reflecting in the water, into a cold scene suitable for the opening of a movie about a pedophile serial killer. You didn’t fix it, you ruined it.

    Posted by Pal2Pal    United States   08/20/2011  at  03:40 PM  

  4. Yeah but Pal, the top photo was ruined somehow and came out with that purple like color. That isn’t what I saw through my viewfinder. The other shots came out fine that I posted yesterday. But why this one didn’t is still a mystery. But the black and white surely isn’t that bad. Yeah, I suppose if that photo went with a story about mayhem and murder like in a novel or even a real life police story, it would sure fit your description. In those circumstances. But gosh, the black and white has to be better then what came out originally.

    Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   08/20/2011  at  03:48 PM  

  5. Interesting Pal2Pal…

    You’re first thought was of pedophiles… care to confess?

    I was thinking of Jim Stafford’s song ‘Swamp Witch’ after I did a simple color-B&W conversion.

    And yes, I fixed it. As a B&W image it obviously invokes Stafford’s song. At least to me. peiper liked it too.

    I hope you are a registered pedophile. Because I’ll find you and report you.

    Posted by Christopher    United States   08/20/2011  at  03:50 PM  

  6. Well actually Chris, her first thought was that it was a romantic setting in color and images of the old south. The other thing came last. But hey, if you think about it, while I do not think it was ruined, I can also see a shot of water and no people as an opening shot of a thriller or mystery type thing. And just to play this for fun with a tad of imagination. That empty table and chairs can be seen as spooky. What happened to the ppl? Of course now I’m assuming there were ppl there but now have disappeared. I’m thinking Stephen King now. We can play this so many ways.

    Another thought.  ??  Might this be seen with gender specific eyes?  What I mean is, my wife favors color on that kind of shot and thinks of pastoral England, Jane Austen and romantic relaxing settings.  But I don’t necessarily see all that in color shots. Depending on what is being shot. Color is warmer I guess.  Although Ansel Adams did everything in B & W.
    Civil War after battle scenes have more punch then the color versions some have painted in.
    And I do agree re. the colorization of so many classic B&W films of the 30s thru 50s are awful. Can you imagine Abbott and Costello or the Marx Bros. in color? Banish the thought.
    But there are some old movies that would have been improved by color and specifically I’m thinking costume dramas.

    Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   08/20/2011  at  04:16 PM  

  7. No peiper, I approached it as a ‘fix the photo’ problem. Pedophilia never crossed my mind. In fact, pedophilia never crosses my mind unless it’s the subject of a news article. I’m just not a sick pedophile. I don’t think that way.

    Posted by Christopher    United States   08/20/2011  at  04:29 PM  

  8. It is a fixed problem. No argument there. I think she was just using that as an expression to express distaste for the fix. But she surely didn’t mean anything beyond that. It wasn’t a slur against you, but rather against the solution.

    Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   08/20/2011  at  04:44 PM  

  9. peiper: She wants to start a male-female fight. She’s a pedophile. Only a pedophile would have thought of that sort of interpretation. If she didn’t like the ‘fix’ she was free to offer her own fix.

    I offered my ‘fix’ sans request. I posted it openly. I did it because I’d had that old photography course in the mid-90s. Thought it might help you save other photos. Can’t tell how many of my own photos were improved by converting to B&W.

    See peiper, part of the problem Britain is having…you keep thinking that the criminals are like you.

    Posted by Christopher    United States   08/20/2011  at  05:43 PM  

  10. My gosh, I never meant to insult someone. I just think the picture with the color has an ethereal quality to it that I find very pleasing. The B&W seems cold and sinister. I only used the description I did because that seemed to me be the worst scene I could think of short of some gangster movie of the 1930s. Very Alfred Hitchcock.

    I do agree that B&W is very effective, especially in depicting war scenes, the openings to mysteries, or who can forget some of the pics that came out of the Dust Bowl and the Great Depression showing abject poverty. Color or colorized pictures somehow soften the view to the point of losing much of a picture’s impact.

    Christopher, why would you think I would want to start any type of fight? Or that my intent was to offend you or insult you? I can assure you that was the furthest thing from my mind. I was speaking strictly about the aesthetics of the picture.

    Now being called by you several times a pedophile, I think perhaps it is you who are deliberately trying to offend. Why would you attack me like that? I comment about my reaction to two depictions of the same picture and you come back at me with the worst kind of personal attack and accuse me of being a sick criminal. Why, why would you do that?

    Posted by Pal2Pal    United States   08/21/2011  at  04:50 AM  

  11. My bad, Pal2Pal. I took an admittedly flawed photo by peiper and ‘fixed’ it. You coughed up a pedophile response. I like the result with just filtering it to B&W. I love B&W, you can do so much more with it. I didn’t consider it cold or pedophilia friendly.

    It’s quite true that the color pic has an ethereal quality. But peiper was worried about his camera being flawed/failing. I just took the pic and voila! A simple B&W with hints of mystery.

    As for why I would do that, well, what would you do if your efforts were called pedophile friendly?

    I have no doubt that if we were in a room together, sharing ale and possibly taking a break from a D&D game, I wouldn’t have minded your thoughts. That’s the bad thing about comments on a website: I don’t have all the other sorts of communication available. No facial expressions, not voice info, no body language.

    Please accept my apology. I’ve just known too many friends who were molested by pedophiles. Unfortunately, most of the pedophiles are deceased. There’s still a couple of them alive…so far…

    Posted by Christopher    United States   08/21/2011  at  12:14 PM  

  12. Christopher:

    You are being totally ridiculous. I never ever implied the photo was “pedophile friendly.” I was trying to pick something really sinister and unfriendly to indicate my reaction to the sinister quality the photo took on when viewed in B&W. I’m beginning to wonder why you are so hung up on this, when no one else seems to have taken my remarks as anymore than what they were intended to impart. Would it be any less if I had said it looks like the dumping site for a mass murderer? A murderer of children? How ‘bout of a rapist? How ‘bout the opening scene of a movie like “Dial M for Murder?”

    Peiper asked what was wrong with his picture. All I was saying is that I didn’t see anything wrong with the original picture. I still don’t. I think the original is lovely.

    And my asking you why you would say such things to me is a legitimate question. I’ve been coming to BMEWS since its birth as a blog and as far as I know, I’ve never caused any trouble, never tried to start some man vs woman fight, nor ever been a negative voice here in any way. Allen was my favorite blogger and his death hit me hard, but I never thought I would be attacked here in such a way and continue to be personally attacked even while you were pretending to apologize. I’m probably old enough to be your grandmother and frankly, I think you have gone completely off the rails.

    And Peiper, I don’t know what went flukey with your camera, but as a graphic artist, I can tell you that people spend hours trying to get the same effect, so don’t knock it.

    Posted by Pal2Pal    United States   08/21/2011  at  04:29 PM  

  13. A classic piece of good advice: never mail a letter you’ve written when you are angry, drunk, or upset. Let it sit a day or two, and then read it again. Odds are you’ll tear it up and find some better way to express yourself.

    In a similar vein, let’s all try to actually read what other people write before reacting. Maybe even read it twice if necessary.

    I mostly agree with P2P’s take on both photos. The first one, purple, does have a heavy sense of heat to it, and the B&W one is sharply cold, empty, and foreboding. If I were to try to describe it more colorfully than that, I might be tempted to call it “After the Elves have gone” and look for Arwen dying off in the grass nearby. But I’m pretty sure there was no resin lawn furniture in Lothlorien, so that wouldn’t be the best description. Some of us are better at imagining and expressing those dreams than others are.

    So try to play nice, m’kay? Don’t forget that there are real people behind these digital words, and act accordingly. That is all.

    Posted by Drew458    United States   08/21/2011  at  06:42 PM  

  14. people spend hours trying to get the same effect, so don’t knock it.

    Hi Pal and thanks. Gee, I have another group shot years ago that strangely had the same thing happen. Never understood why although Drew and others suggested white balance problem.
    A pro photographer once told me that 90 percent of photos that succeed are pure luck. But I’ve spent time over the years drooling over photos by other people and am certain the percentage is much,much lower. Some are lucky to have a natural eye for composition. I’m not one of those.  :>(

    Cheers

    Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   08/23/2011  at  02:23 AM  

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