Canadian Meltdown, Eh?
on 05/01/2005 at 04:48 PM
From what I understand, if Quebec actually DOES leave Canada, the land they get may very well be ONLY that part of Original Quebec from Confederation in 1867, and not that part which belongs to the Mohawk and Cree, eh.
It wouldn’t surprise me that if this happens eh. And it would be sad too eh.
Politically speaking, the Conservative Party of Canada would be more at home in the DEMOCRATIC PARTY, while the Liberals and the NDP would fit right in with the damn Communists, eh.
I hope very soon the People of Canada will give Paul Martin and the Liberals the Trudeau Salute, eh!
With the exception of calling our beer lousy, the rest is right on. This country is politically nothing more than a third rate Banana Republic, started when Pierre Trudeau, with the help of his mentor, Lester Pearson started us on the long road to Socialism.
I am certainly not the only one who would welcome the Stars & Stripes flying over Parliament Hill. Hell, you guys liberated Iraq, and thay had an army! How about helping out your neighbours for once?I have not abandoned this country, It has abandoned me.
Posted by Ralph Rattfuc
05/02/2005 at 06:28 AM
I guess you’d have to know I’d wade in to this one.
First off, the comment on the beer is a little strange. Why you’d say our fine English/German style beer is lousy, makes me wonder. Considering that diluted weasel piss that you pass off as beer. Have a Canuckistani Manly-Muscle beer. It’ll get you shit-faced in half the time. Our cigarettes don’t smell like a fart either. (grin.)
As for a “meltdown” - it could happen. For those that haven’t heard of ADSCAM, there is a good article on it here (a US site of course): http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/004220.php
Alberta already has a separatist party here: http://www.separationalberta.com/
And an interesting site at “Canada First” about immigration: http://www.canadafirst.net/However, I’d have to agree in part with the article. I’d see the possibly of Alberta annexing to the US or going on their own. Saskatchewan might join in. Best of both worlds for them or the US - oil, cattle, and grain.
Manitoba is too tied to Ottawa’s coat tails and would probably stay with whatever happens to Ontario. But from just east of Winnipeg to the lakehead, the country side is useless - it is all part of the Canadian Shield - granite - good for making curling rocks and headstones, I suppose. The mines in the north are just about depleted and there may be some cedar stands. Other than that, there’s just wilderness, mosquitoes and black flies. Good fishing and hunting, but don’t forget your quart of DEET.
What of the rest of (southern) Ontario? I can’t see that they have a lot going for them for natural resources either; unless you count them as the “Hollywood Of The North” as they think they are. Maybe a little industry. But that comes from the rest of Canuckistan.
Quebec? Separation would be political and financial suicide for them. Even if they became some half-assed satellite of Frogland, they’d be isolated in the extreme from the rest of North America.
Newfoundland/Labrador might just go it alone. After all, they didn’t join Canada until 1949 and only on the promise of a bunch of (broken) promises.
The maritimes would suffer. Unless they too joined the US. That would effectively isolate and blockout Quebec.
The Yukon, Nunavut and the Northwest Territories would likely ‘extend’ from Alaska. Huge untapped resources there - gas oil, gold, and now diamonds.
British Columbia could be a hard sell. The lower mainland (Vancouver and environs and the Island) are too (L)liberally entrenched. The BC interior and the north would probably go to the US in a heartbeat. They could utilize their vast timber resources to the fullest extent. (The environmentalists? Well, I have a T-shirt that says “SAVE BC’S FORESTS - WIPE YOUR ASS WITH AN OWL”.)(Little inside joke about the Spotted Owl.)
On the other hand, they’re tied in pretty close with SEATAC - almost one and the same.Yoy could debate all this for years, and if it did happen, it would create an unholy mess.
Will any of this happen in my lifetime? Doubtful. Because as I’ve said many times on this site, you are forgetting the one word that defines a Canadian - APATHY.
You’ll never get past that. We’ll just roll over and play dead and then all line up in front of the gummint buildings with our jars of Vaseline and say: “do it to us quickly and get it over with, so we can get back to drinking our beer and watching hockey and curling - EH?” Yuck!-Dan D,
CanuckistanProtect them, but don’t feed and nurse them.
DAN & RALPH: Making fun of Molson and Canadian beer is a standing joke here at BMEWS. Our European visitors make fun of our “watered-down” beer so we have to “pass the love along” to our Northern neighbors.
EH?
I have to agree the beer comments are a bit rich coming from a country that considers Pabst Blue Ribbon a good beer! However regarding the break up of Canada I think the idea that Quebec could exist as a separate entity laughable. When France set up the original EU they managed to include all their piss pot colonies in the deal. They all benefit from preferntial duty rates and presumably agricultural subsidies. However Quebec couldn’t become part of the EU as the other members would never allow it. I think it unlikely that the US and the remnants of Canada would offer them preferential duty rates so it’s hard to see them making it on their own. As for Ontario....well I can’t see that as a going concern on it’s own either. Alberta has plety of raw materials and would be a good candidate for secession. British Columbia strikes me as a viable concern on it’s own. I just hope the break up doesn’t come too soon. My wife and I plan to move to Alberta. I have no objection to it becoming another US state so long as it doesn’t happen till we get there!
And think of the added money that will come in to the Government budgets. The tax rate could go down but more then likely won’t. and those antu American haters that just moved to Canada will have to jump over to Greenland so they don’t have to live in the USA.
Allan - Molson?? Yuck!!! That and Labatt’s Blue are the worst on the market! If I had to drink beer from the Big Producers, Molson Canadian and Blue would be the last one’s I’d drink. Budweiser and MGD ain’t bad up here, but I stick to the smaller breweries like Kokanee or Pacific Western Breweries products or go with something like Sleeman’s. And there are now a ton of micro breweries making some really fine beer - like Big Rock out of Calgary AB.
As for US beer, I’ve had a lot of it on my many trips to the US with the pipe bands I’ve played with, and my favourite is still Miller High Life.
Back in the early 80’s, there was a beer strike up here and all we could get was Olympia, but only after the gummint had to send it all back so that Olympia could put stickers on it that said “Biere” to satisfy the frogs.
If some of the provinces were to annex, that is one thing I wouldn’t miss - having everything repeated in French on labels and signs. (For those of you who visit, “Arrete” on an octagon red sign means “Stop”.)
LyndonB: Why in hell would you want to move to Canuckistan? I hope you know what you’re in for, making such a move, and have a good immigration lawyer....etc. Don’t burn your bridges either - 75% of Americans who move here end up going back after about 2 years.
-Dan D,
CanuckistanGuy, how do I explain this one? I’ve never been to Montreal, but I have been to Ottawa, the nations capitol. There is a river that divides Ottawa, Ontario from Hull, Quebec. When we went to the Hull side and went into a restaurant, we were treated rudely and the staff refused to speak english. US customers were totally ignored. As they are in most of the east. Some provinces DO NOT tolerate Americans at all.
From friends who had lived/worked in Montreal, and from articles in the news, some “sections” of Montreal are for “Anglophones” and some sections (the vast majority) are for “Francophones”. These are commonly used terms up here. If you live in the Anglophone section and have a business there you may have your signs in French with some English. In the Francophone sectors, it’s French only.
It should be understood that Canada has TWO official languages - English and French. People who move up here are stunned to find that most large corporations, airlines and almost all gummint jobs require that you must speak, read, and write BOTH languages, or you don’t work for them. Period. I used to, but have mostly lost it from dis-use. Besides, many Fr. Canadians speak a ‘patois’ that is neither French or English and only they understand. (I also used to speak Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin Chinese, a little German and Italian and American Sioux as well - but those have all fallen by the wayside too.)
It’s crazy up here, especially in the east, but I hope this helps a bit. (Glad I’m out here in BC. Heh-heh.)
-Dan D,
Canuckistan
05/02/2005 at 01:44 PM
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