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America’s armed militia on the rise , says article in the Telegraph.

 
 


Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   on 01/01/2010 at 09:57 AM   
 
  1. "The Southern Poverty Law Centre, which is an extremist organisation”

    And that’s the point, of course, yet another organization which did good work in its early years, has been radicalized to the point of being just another shill for the paranoia of the left.

    After all, isn’t it un-American to believe that you actually have the rights and privileges, as well as the duties, enumerated in the Constitution?

    Ah, well.

    Happy New Year, everyone, it can’t really get too much worse, can it?

    Posted by Siddhartha Vicious    United States   01/01/2010  at  10:37 AM  

  2. I am an “Oath Keeper”. When I swore that OATH to support and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC, and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same, I don’t remember any expiration date.

    Beware. Woe be unto them The Awakening. I pray we may save this nation by the power of the pen. Preferable we do it with ink, rather than blood. But the option remains, however distasteful.

    Posted by cmblake6    United States   01/01/2010  at  11:23 AM  

  3. Militias?  Another urban legend that won’t die because the left won’t let it.  I’ve known guys that claimed they were militia members, and they were, to a man, douchebags.

    Posted by grayjohn    United States   01/01/2010  at  11:27 AM  

  4. Siddhartha Vicious , the liberals fall into that category, I would say (and my dictionary supports me!) that liberals are called that due to their libertarian founding principles, indeed the Australian libs put those principles where their mouths were big time. The north american liberals are not liberal at all, the party is a sham, it is an instrument of authoratarian despots, it might be helpful to get liberal thinking voters to look at that, if they still want to be serfs get them call themselves something honest.
    I do wonder what the northern hemisphere politicical elite think when they hear of liberal politicians resigning from positions of power to support a principle that is to the benefit of the voters?

    Posted by Chris Edwards    Canada   01/01/2010  at  11:56 AM  

  5. Chris - has that ever happened? Has a lib poli ever actually quit for principle?

    Posted by Drew458    United States   01/01/2010  at  11:59 AM  

  6. I think this is a very cherry-picked article. It isn’t reporting, it’s a scare piece. The author came up with his conclusion and then went hunting to find voices that supported it.

    That said, yes, America is an armed camp. The citizens have more firearms and ammunition than most of the rest of the world’s armies combined. Scares the doody out of the euro-socialists; they just can’t get their heads around that one.

    And yet ... if you ignore the numbers from the ghetto killings, we have a much more peaceful society than theirs.

    But, actual “militias”? Not so reality based there.

    Posted by Drew458    United States   01/01/2010  at  12:11 PM  

  7. Drew nails it again.

    Posted by LyndonB    Canada   01/01/2010  at  12:53 PM  

  8. The only problem I see is the targets are not the butt weasels that are selling us down the river writing these laws, but the poor guys vested with enforcing these stupid F-ing laws.Ill paraphrase Misha here: Congress,Tree,Rope,some assembly required.

    Posted by Rich K    United States   01/01/2010  at  02:29 PM  

  9. Do not forget that for the socialist despot there is the pitfall of a written call to arms to defend itself, the constitution eclipses everything for genuine Americans, so yes there is a huge malitia, potentialy joined by the more alert lawmen and armed forces personel, who are likely to support their document and rightly so, that the English newspaper would understand that is doubtful in fact in 50 years of living there I had never met anyone who understood the aims and brilliance of the American constitution, actually make that just one, he also gave me a book called the “unseen hand” read it!

    Posted by Chris Edwards    Canada   01/01/2010  at  08:43 PM  

  10. Drew google “austrailian MPs resign’ you will get the hits a few down, after the sex scandals!! here is a stolen bit:-ABC news reports that five frontbenchers from Australia’s opposition Liberal party have resigned their portfolios rather than follow their leader Malcolm Turnbull in voting with Kevin Rudd’s Government on a new Emissions Trading Scheme.

    Posted by Chris Edwards    Canada   01/01/2010  at  08:48 PM  

  11. Actually, I had always had the feeling that it was the conservatives who were the real liberals.  Like the ‘G’ word however, it somehow got misplaced.

    Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   01/02/2010  at  06:56 AM  

  12. Folks,

    There was much that did not make it into the article, whether by writer-bias, editor-bias, laziness or space considerations—and I have experienced all of these in the past 15 years or so.  I did the interview as a sop to the Telegraph for whom I have fond memories of that paper’s Washington correspondent in the Clintonista period, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, who did a piece on the militia poster campaign to embarrass the FBI into finally arresting a member of the Aryan Republican Army bank robbery gang, Michael Brescia.  He also made mention of our efforts to assist Glenn and Kathy Wilburn’s private investigation of the OKC bombing in his book, The Secret Life of Bill Clinton.  (AEP hated that title, which was chosen by the publisher.  He preferred “Blackwater.")

    Insofar as the quotes are concerned, they are accurate but stripped of context.  Also, you cannot expect a 21st Century “mainstream journalist” to do a story on militias without reference to the conflation experts at the Southern Preposterous Lie Center.  The Poplawski sentence thrown in at the end is a perfect example of this.  Poplawski is a neoNazi terrorist, and whether or not he made reference to gun control laws is immaterial.  He is not a constitutional militiaman any more than McVeigh, Richard Guthrie or Michael Brescia, all members of the Aryan Republican Army, were.

    I suggest that folks whose knowledge is a bit scarce on the subject of militias consult To Shake Their Guns in the Tyrant’s Face: Libertarian Political Violence and the Origins of the Militia Movement by Professor Robert Churchill,University of Hartford (Connecticut), University of Michigan Press, 2009.  As a careful historian, he very painstakingly differentiates between the constitutional militia movement (which the vast majority of folks belonged to then and belong to now) and folks he calls “the Millenarians” and the racists (who, thanks to the SPLC and the ADL, got most of the publicity).  Richard Butler, then head of the Aryan Nations (now burning brightly in Hell), told journalist Jonathan Karl (Keep and Bear Arms, paperback, 1996) that constitutionalists like me were “White on the outside, black on the inside, with a Jewiswh brain.” Churchill also correctly reports the cold war that some constitutional militias waged, not only with the Clintonistas, but with their neoNazi and “Christian” Identity familiars.  (Also see Churchill regarding “Operation White Rose,” page 206; also do a search on “The Alabama Declaration.")

    The premise of the article, that militias are growing is absolutely true.  What is different this time is that most organizations are small, quiet and could be best characterized as neighborhood defense units made up of friends, relatives and neighbors they can trust.  They have learned the prime lesson of the 90s, which is thanks to the “Brown Scare” worked up by the SPLC and ADL with their “Narrative of 1995” (Again, see Churchill), not to have large, public units, hold press conferences and open yourself up to prime opportunities for federal “agents provocateur.”

    Those who deny that this is taking place are not paying attention.

    Insofar as my warning about the bloody consequences of another Waco (and remember, folks, the leading lights of this regime are mostly old Clintonistas who, if they were not decision makers on the ATF raid decision and subsequent FBI barbeque, certainly were involved in the coverup—see Eric Holder’s persecution of Texas federal prosecutor Johnson), I refer you to my two open letters of the past year to Holder himself on the topic, “No More Free Wacos.”

    They had their first Waco without consequences to themselves.  There will not be another.  (Do a search on my name and “One Hundred Heads.")

    Anyone is welcome to come to the Three Percenter website, sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com, if they wish to know more.

    Mike Vanderboegh
    The alleged leader of a merry band of Three Percenters.
    PO Box 926
    Pinson, AL 35126

    Posted by Dutchman6    United States   01/02/2010  at  07:23 AM  

  13. I’ll back up Mike on this one.  Read his site, and tell me there’s anything there you have trouble agreeing with…

    This is a classic smear-campaign by the (hack-spit) “paper.”

    DD

    Posted by Dedicated_dad    United States   01/03/2010  at  05:34 AM  

  14. Gotta agree with Dedicated_dad--I’ve been to Mike’s site on more than a few occasions.  Nothing there that I have any trouble agreeing with.  The novel that Mike’s working on, “Absolved,” could very well turn out to be the case, in the future.  I join Mike in praying that it does NOT become the case, because there’ll be a lot of “watering the Tree of Liberty” if it IS.

    Posted by BlueStateSaint    United States   01/03/2010  at  04:58 PM  

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