A PRO CHINA POST: Western media has demonised China
I am neither pro nor anti China policy on Tibet. I haven’t read enuff on the subject and honestly have concerns much closer to home of a very serious nature.
I do know that many of my conservative friends are mightily opposed to China’s policy re. Tibet. But I don’t believe their policy is any of my business, and I have no desire to make it my business. And anyway, how can everyone be so dead certain that the Chinese are totally wrong?
If you find arguments with Mr. Yings editorial comments, by all means write him. But all these street protests and trying to grab that silly useless olympic flame is empty rhetoric and pointless posturing.
I know this much. Wherever I’ve gone, be it Mexico, The Philipines, Pakistan, Italy, Australia, etc, I’ve always understood the people I’ve fraternized with. Even in Canada! People are basically the same everywhere. It’s the politicians/governments I have a problem with.
So, China/Tibet. This has been going on for my entire life. As has the China/Taiwan thinggy. (not sure that’s a word...my spellchecker freaks out...but then, my spellchecker is freaking out on ‘spellchecker’.) Do I care? Sure. Do I have a vote? NO!
BTW, China/Tibet may end up being a non-issue. Seems that China has its own jihad to contend with.
The Olympics isn’t much more than political posturing these days. Sure, you get a bunch of athletes from all around the world who are superb at doing sports that almost nobody cares about. But that purity was lost forever when they allowed in sports that are played for serious professional money, and allowing professionals to compete in those sports at the Olympics forever destroyed the quaint aura of innocence that made the Olympics special.
If the USA could find just one 3rd stable world country willing to be our producer then China would be bankrupt in 10 years at the most. Without zillions of US dollars flooding the place to buy cheap goods they would have almost nothing. Yet even with the poisoned ingredients, the lead paint, the counterfeit brands, the computer HDs that come with viruses built in, etc, the US continues to use China as it’s major manufacturer. Because China is stable. That’s the one advantage to heavy handed Communism.
Yet China is the enemy, and has been since the Dems allowed Mao to takeover. We pretend otherwise, but they don’t. Sure they’ll take our money and sell us crap. And laugh.
I’m not worried about jihad in China. If it gets too bad they’ll just line up all the muslims and shoot them. Problem solved, and the whole world will look the other way. They’ve done it before with the opium smokers, they’ll do it again if they need to. What does China care if they lose 50 million citizens? That’s a bit more rice for everyone else.
Posted by squeegee kid
04/12/2008 at 02:38 PM
Can you demonize a demon?Red China is a major threat to us all, want to cut emissions, dont buy from china, the Tibet issue is a huge shame to the west, where is the UN when decent people are subject to ethnic clensing?? why did commie china kill John Birch? Is the last bit of white china (Tiwan) not under threat from communist china? why did the USA cave in to Russia and China in 1945? I say nuke the bastards
Posted by Chris Edwards
04/12/2008 at 03:30 PM
Chris, you’ll have a fun time looking up those reasons. But i’ll warn you in advance, you’re going to find Democrats hiding under those bushes. Worse, you’re going to find Democrats that were either Red spies or sympathizers, all of whom were very high in FDR’s and Truman’s hierarchy.
Take your antacids before you start looking, cuz what you find will make you sick to your stomach.
Dirty Fuckin’ Communists....
Drew458
Yup I knew that, what I find hard to grasp is if an english working man can see that why, just why is it still in the realms of conspiracy theory in the public eye. My Canadian cousin and his wife think I am a redneck cos I believe this???
A the moment im stuck in eurostan but when the house sells we are off to Canada.Posted by Chris Edwards
04/13/2008 at 04:27 AM
The trouble with China. Let’s start at the beginning, they are a Communist dictatorship, they ride a capitalistic knife edge where they employ migrant workers for approx. $115 dollar a month salary with no employee protections and force them to live in ghetto’s full of migrant workers. They use and abuse the workers, there is no OSHEA group to protect them, if they get injured on the job they are out of work. They have no environment controls nor protections. They dump extremely toxic chemicals into their waterways and pollute the downstream farmers, exposing them to cancer and death. They artificially keep the Chinese Yen below it’s actual value which ends up hurting the American economy. They have increased their military spending over 10 fold in the last few years, they are building their army, navy, and weapons at an alarming rate. They interfere with Darfur and sell weapons to the Muslim’s who are slaughtering the Christians. They make weapon deals with many of America’s enemies. They spy on America and have stolen countless technologies. They lased one of the American spy satellites, effectively blinding the satellite over Chinese territory. They launched an anti-satellite space weapon destroying an old Chinese television satellite, likely starting a space weapons race. They pollute American products with lead and other toxic substances (pet food, toothpaste, toys, plastic Easter eggs, seafood, dialysis drug heparin, and many more just plain faulty products that had to be recalled for electrical problems or metal fatigue, etc.). There is no religious freedom whatsoever. If a preacher is not associated with the government controlled false Catholic faith then they are persecuted by either imprisonment or death. In 1997 a Chinese preacher was discovered when the local Communist government decided to knock down his house to put in a new road. Obviously, he was not even informed that his house was scheduled for demolition. While he was at work, they knocked down his house and found a bible hidden in a wall, in the bible was a list of church members. The government rounded everyone up and made the preacher and his family as well as the leaders of the church to lay in the street. They lined up the rest of the church and made them watch while they drove over the church leaders with a steam roller. The Chinese government tightly controls the media so the only way this event made it to the outside world was by word of mouth from illegal Christian missionaries. Now add into the mix the latest news about Tibetan monks being persecuted during peaceful protests. The list goes on and on and on. There is not room enough to state all that is wrong with China. I believe it was a serious mistake to help China open up and start to accept capitalist trade and manufacturing. All it’s done is provide money to prop up the corrupt Communist government and keep it afloat when it should have suffered the same financial collapse of the old Soviet Union. Russia is another discussion for another day, to put it mildly they are reverting back to their old Communist roots. President Putin ran the KGB for crying out loud! His viewpoints have not changed. He’s making billions skimming off the oil and natural gas that the government seized from private business owners.
I have no problem with boycotting the Chinese Olympics and their trade. But go ahead and try to not buy Chinese products, it’s damn near impossible! Seems most everything is manufactured in China.
The problem is the media has no demonized them enough! A lot more is going on and getting covered up to keep prices at Walmart cheap, while endangering countless American lives. The outsourcing of manufacturing to China is causing more ills then it cures.
Posted by MJS
04/13/2008 at 03:21 PM
I honestly doubt that it’s possible to get the TRUTH about China, in a practical sense. Okay, there may be some equivalent to Michael Yon, but you’d have to look hard to find him, and would have to travel to China yourself to know whether or not you could believe what he says.
Think about it folks. What do we KNOW, that we can *prove*?
1) China’s government is collectivist. Such systems always spin the truth to get the results they want from the population.
2) Western media whores themselves out to any opinion popular enough to drive sales, or serves as a mouthpiece for a multi gazillionaire trying to turn his perception into reality. Factual news, factually reported and unspun, assuming it can be found at all, is definitely the esception, not the rule.
3) Right around a quarter of the human population of the planet is within the borders of China. They are fighting against a host of secondary problems resulting from overpopulation that we in the west haven’t even begun to imagine, much less experience.That’s the sum total of what we KNOW about the China situation without going to see for ourselves. All else is taking someone’s word for it.
So.... from any original facts, China will try to spin them in her own favor, and others will try to spin them to match either the political/philosophical agendae of their employers or their target market. And having an overpopulation issue comparable to Tokyo over probably a third of her area or more, China will consider normal measures to keep their society stable and productive measures that those in the west would find draconian in the extreme. So from a western viewpoint, they’ll always be providing LOTS of ammo for misunderstanding and demonization.Like everyone else, I’m guessing. But my guess would be that it’s neither as rosy as the Chinese paint it, nor as bad as western media paints it. And it probably bears little more resemblance to the actual events than Shakespeare’s Henry V bears to the actual campaigns of King Harry in northern France in the 1400s.
Think about some event you were there for, either witnessed or remember the news of it. Now think about seeing the movie “based on a true story”.
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