And Here We Go


Posted by Drew458    United States   on 01/08/2013 at 05:50 PM   
  1. Draconian for sure Drew.  But I think you knew it might be coming, and so no surprise.
    I’m interested also in the idea of ammo and how much a person has etc.  By the looks of it here, it appears that gun owners will have to justify their buys.
    Well, what happens then to the folks who go target shooting and spend lots of time at a range?  With regard to checks on people buying a gun, the anti gun shouters seem to forget that in the Newtown killings, the bad guy took his mother’s guns. Chances are she probably was checked out when she bought, so what good would this new legislation being proposed have done? None I can see. 

    This really is an important story, and will be waiting to see how it plays out.
    It’s certain that the left and the hand wringers now have a large propaganda coup to play off of.  I think it gets somewhat worse in that from the bits I’ve read here, there’s some gun owners that are okay with new laws on guns, thinking that the nut cases will somehow be magically disarmed.

    Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   01/08/2013  at  07:39 PM  

  2. They were Babies and no one can deal with that fact yet so this BS will go on for some time.
    As an aside, I toss this in to the mix for balance:

    The implication that modern semiautomatics are a distinctly dangerous category is a pure canard. Consider this from an “1862” report assessing Winchester’s lever-action Henry rifle:
    “187 shots were fired in three minutes and thirty seconds and one full fifteen shot magazine was fired in only 10.8 seconds.  A total of 1,040 shots were fired and hits were made from as far away as 348 feet at an 18 inch square target with a .44 caliber 216 grain bullet [compare the .22 caliber 55 grain AR-15 round”.
    “I rest our case.”

    Posted by Rich K    United States   01/08/2013  at  08:31 PM  

  3. Cowboy Assault Rifles!!!

    Yeah, I’ve got one. A Legacy 94. They rock.

    Gosh, according to Gun Nut Math, 15 shots in 10.8 seconds is 84 rounds a minute! Ok, that’s not a machine gun, but it’s close. You could use that 150 year old rifle to hit 26 targets in less than half a minute.

    Ban Cowboy Assault Rifles!!! Bullet spraying hoses designed only to kill Peaceful Native Americans and Endangered Buffalo!!!!

    Posted by Drew458    United States   01/08/2013  at  09:55 PM  

  4. “The power of the sword, say the minority..., is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for The powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but where, I trust in God, it will always remain, in the hands of the people.” (Tench Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.)

    George Washington: “Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people’s liberty teeth (and) keystone… the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable… more than 99% of them [guns] by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference [crime]. When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour.” (Address to 1st session of Congress)

    I could go on, but the point is clear - the 2nd Amendment is intended for the people to resist the government. Every law which limits, regulates, or controls the peoples ability to be armed is unconstitutional! Every attempt to limit what firearm a citizen may posses is a step in the enslavement of the United States citizenry.

    -Rich, nice point about the Henry! I should have gotten one when they were reasonably priced.

    Posted by jackal40    United States   01/09/2013  at  12:08 PM  

  5. Here’s a two-for-one - Hobby Lobby has a ‘cowboy decor’ - in that section is a slim metal ‘sign’ about (something like, I have lousy short term memory) ‘You make take my gun when I’m out of ammo and out of my cold dead hand’.

    Protect two Amendments (Hobby Lobby’s right not to be FORCED to pay for something they do not believe in - 1st Amendment) and of course We The People’s 2nd Amendment Right to NOT be infringed upon by tyrannical government control freaks.

    However, having said all that - putting Bite Me in charge - makes the entire thing seem like a big joke.

    Posted by wardmama4    United States   01/09/2013  at  12:26 PM  

  6. “These assault magazines help put the ‘mass’ in ‘mass shooting’ and anything we can do to stop their proliferation will save lives in America,” said McCarthy, whose husband was killed and her son critically wounded in a mass shooting on the Long Island Railroad in New York in 1993. “These devices are used to kill as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time possible, and we owe it to innocent Americans everywhere to keep them out of the hands of dangerous people.”

    Correct me if I’m wrong - but didn’t Hinkley use a .22 to shoot Reagan et al?

    Hinckley fired a Röhm RG-14 .22 cal.[18] blue steel revolver six times in 1.7 seconds

    They will attempt to start with ‘assault’ weapons - and then next time move closer and closer until they get to complete confiscation.

    And talk about emo ‘reporting’ - to continue to pound that Ms McCarthy lost her husband and a vital young person (son) horribly wounded by a viscous dangerous gun (Ruger P-89 9mm with 160 rounds in a bag). Much like Giffords announcing an anti-NRA group to collect enough donations to

    challenge the political clout of the well funded gun lobby


    Funny how this bunch is ok with using Dumbocare to mandate a faux ‘right’ (show me where the RIGHT to bc is in the Constitution) - but go directly after a RIGHT spelled out succinctly and unlimited - time after time.

    Well at least now I know where the ‘line in the sand’ is going to be - we just have to see 1) if these crappola bills even make it out of committee and 2) how far the big o is willing to put it all on the line for this little endeavor - to paraphrase Andrew Jackson - Obama can make all the EOs he wants about gun control, now let him enforce them.

    Posted by wardmama4    United States   01/09/2013  at  12:46 PM  

  7. I agree Wardmama, but people are frightened. (why they haven’t been frightened before this given everything the Marxist In Chief and his Gang o’ Thugs have done is beyond me) Here in NJ I’ve talked to at least 3 otherwise normal people who have buried stashes of firearms and ammo where the jack boots can’t find them and even the black helicopters using MAD gear can’t locate them. When possession of a couple ounces of plastic (hi cap magz) is a crime so severe that it’s mandatory jail term is equal to that served by many rapists and hit and run homicides, then the end game is near.

    The Mayans were wrong: the world ended on November 6th. Now folks are preparing for the Obamalypse.

    Posted by Drew458    United States   01/09/2013  at  02:52 PM  

  8. You all do realize this is just more smoke to get the R party to cave on “Spending” legislation as well as the 2nd amendment ,Right?
    Never let a crisis go to waste,right Rahm,Asshole!

    shit  shit  shit  shit  shit  shit

    Posted by Rich K    United States   01/09/2013  at  04:47 PM  

  9. In a way Rich I agree - this cult of personality empty suit who is (p)Resident - is continually briefing the State Media on distractions while he goes off and takes away another freedom.

    Problem with this one is it is a RIGHT and it is one that millions of Americans. Can someone tell me where that 80 million gun owners number comes from? I mean I know at least 4 guns passed to other people without paperwork (as I have the original bill of sale for one of them) - and I’m sure that I’m not the only one who has had family (the gun passers are all dead for those in the Administration who are tracking this, so I can’t ask who they passed the guns on to nor do I have a clue as I left home at 18). And when you add in the number of collectible and antique guns out there (pre all this gov paperwork/background check bs) - I’m really truly sure that number is way low.

    And I believe much as the Republicans have shown themselves to be traitors, gutless, spineless and almost as much a part of the problem as the DemocRATS - one thing both parties are more concerned with and supersedes even the current ‘crisis’ or legislation that might get them into the next DC gala event is - THEIR RE-ELECTION and most of them will get more than an ear full (or text box, or email box or mail box) of not simply NO, but HELL NO.

    And in the end - it all comes down to votes for the crapweasels in DC.

    Posted by wardmama4    United States   01/10/2013  at  01:59 PM  

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