good example, guns and the law usa - uk


Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   on 01/07/2013 at 02:14 PM   
  1. Words fail me…

    Posted by CenTexTim    United States   01/07/2013  at  05:48 PM  

  2. I give her loads of credit. 5 hits out of 6 shots in a real situation. And I bet half his hair was burned off too. grin

    Of course, she could have grazed him or hit him in the ears with a couple of those shots. And we don’t know what her ammo was; there is some really low power target stuff out there that is very gentle to shoot but should not be considered for defensive work (and that rules out the reverse loaded HBWC “armchair warrior” self defense round: you can’t put enough oomph behind those thin little target bullets to make them sufficiently deadly. The bullets simply fly apart when you fire them. Been there, tried it, its BS, wised up. OTOH, copper plated soft lead 158gr DEWC can be fired at full .357 Magnum pressures with amazing results. Just saying).

    It’s also really smart to match your ammo to your weapon; many people own snubbies - a .38 revolver with a 1” to 1 3/4” barrel, which makes them fit in your pocket. But that short barrel gives the powder no room or time to really do its job, so velocities from these pistols are dangerously low. To fix that, several ammo companies are now - finally!! - selling “short barreled pistol” ammo. Handloaders just use some faster powder like Bullseye instead of the typical WW231. I’ve been there too, and done that as well. And I can make safe loads for my .357 SP-101 that will push that 158gr plated wadcutter to 1000fps from a very short barrel. Granted, that’s a bit beyond the pale for a .38 Special. But you could make some .38 +P stuff with the classic 140gr SJHP that would go 950fps if you knew your stuff. And if you go all “Ayoob” with the 125 JHPs you can zoom them pretty well even in a .38. I like more bullet mass personally.

    No, I’m not going to say a .38 Spl “isn’t enough gun”. It is, but with the caveat that you have to load it with the right kind of ammo.

    Posted by Drew458    United States   01/07/2013  at  09:16 PM  

  3. The deadeye lady happened about 30 mi. as the crow flies.In Walton Co., she’ll get a medal. Two counties west, she’d be up on civil rights violations, etc. Evil white woman etc. ......

    Mike 2gunsfiring

    Posted by BOGEYB    United States   01/08/2013  at  01:13 AM  

  4. Well Peiper, at least you have pretty buildings and bridges and quaint lil towns and shit there to distract you from the injustice. All we have here are modern ugly trusses and post modern ramshackle tilt ups to look at.
    Really, I read about our ugly ways in the Post, the NY times and all the other Haters of all things American. Its all the rage in SOHO.So just kill me now,,45 cal preferred.
    cool grin

    Posted by Rich K    United States   01/08/2013  at  01:47 AM  

  5. Given the injustice system in England, if you ever found yourself in the unhappy situation of having to kill someone in self defense, it seems to me that the most sensible thing to do would be to dump the body in the middle of a gypsy camp at about 4:30 in the morning.

    Either they’ll dispose of the body quietly with no further issue thus preventing you from getting ground up in the gears of the injustice system, or they’ll fail at this, and the local constabulary will create massive havoc for the gypsies (for a much welcome change of pace.)

    That’s got to be worth at least 2 bags of popcorn of entertainment.

    Posted by Argentium G. Tiger    Canada   01/08/2013  at  03:41 AM  

  6. Arge, that’s the best idea I’ve heard all morning!! Two stars!!

    Posted by Drew458    United States   01/08/2013  at  03:45 PM  

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