To be a judge in the UK do you have to go on an “How to rid yourself of all common sense “ course ? Most of our judges seen to have passed with high marks !
- bglad1 , littlehampton, United Kingdom
I’m feeling suicidal by hearing about my poor old once great country being battered by idiot judges who give every lowlife the right to reside here no matter how dangerous but give us no human rights to be safe in our own country.
- fed up taxpayer now a ukip voter
Just a couple of notes from the readers of the Mail, and there are other similar comments. So what has their knickers in a twist? The same sort of insanity that people with sense in any country would feel, faced with what the Brits see everyday. How are they supposed to feel when they can do nothing as a weak legal system, systematically destroys their faith in what is supposed to be a, justice system. They see no justice. You do not have to be a ranting right wing hang em all Nazi to despise what the system has actually become. A haven for criminals of the worst sort, and employment human rights lawyers as well as for judges who lack any kind of common sense, and judges who feel their hands are tied by the rules as written and so can do little or nothing. Some judges judges have indeed spoken out. The problem is, nobody is listening who can set things right. In a country where the death penalty is banned, life in prison for vicious killers should damn well mean life. But as we know, even in the USA, the death penalty doesn’t discourage would be rapists or killers because it takes so long to execute even the worst. And life does not always mean life in the states either. Having said that, with whatever complaints Americans justifiably have with the incorrectly named “justice” system, the people of Britain face far worse.
Here are a couple of examples that belong to a growing list of like examples. And this is not even the worst that I can report on. So far, sad and frustrating to say, the people here have lost all reasonable means of national self protection or justice through their courts.
Human Rights laws stop Algerian terror suspect with links to gas plant massacre group being deported because he is suicidal
· The 43-year-old does not dispute he is a threat to national security
· Came to Britain in 1995 on a fake passport and claimed asylum
· Suspected supporter of the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat - group involved in deadly attack on Algerian gas plant earlier this month
· Mr Justice Mitting rules he must stay because he has a history of depression
By Steve Robson
An Algerian terror suspect has been allowed to stay in Britain because a judge believes he may commit suicide if he is forced to go back home.
The 43-year-old, who cannot be named for legal reasons, does not dispute he is a risk to Britain’s national security and is believed to support one of the terrorist groups which carried out the deadly attack on an Algerian gas plant earlier this month which claimed the lives of 39 hostages including six Britons.
He is also suspected of providing fake passports and travel arrangements to terrorists.
But in another blow for the Home Office, the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Siac) has allowed the married man to remain on British soil today because deporting him would breach his human rights.
Making his ruling, Mr Justice Mitting - who recently allowed hate preacher Abu Qatada to stay in the UK - said: ‘We must look at the totality of the psychiatric evidence in the round.
‘We are persuaded by it that the risk that G would commit suicide, especially after arrival in Algiers, is very high.
‘It may be containable in the UK but no special arrangements have been negotiated with Algeria to cope with it.’
In the same judgment, Mr Justice Mitting told six other Algerian terror suspects they must leave.
But the senior immigration judge warned there was still ‘no end in sight’ in attempting to put the men on a flight home because they are likely to appeal the decision.
Are we to believe that this negro scum thought up the idea of suing all on his own? Or did some ambulance chasing human rights scumbag attorney tell him he had rights that were violated. Whatever, at least in this case his case was shot down and so he won’t collect “compensation” from the taxpayer. But unfortunately, he is still here. Most likely collecting benefits as well.
Child-sex attacker can’t be deported because his African tribe is ‘persecuted’
· Jumaa Kater Saleh, 24, arrived in UK in 2004 hidden in a lorry
· He was convicted of having sex with a 13-year-old girl in May 2008
· Judge said today it was ‘not possible’ to deport him back to Sudan
· Saleh attempted to claim damages for unlawful detention
By Jack Doyle and Ryan Kisiel
An African migrant who lured a vulnerable schoolgirl to a house for sex cannot be deported – because he is a member of a ‘persecuted tribe’.
Jumaa Kater Saleh, 24, was convicted as part of a predatory sex gang for the ‘deliberate, targeted abuse of a young and vulnerable girl’, who was aged 13 at the time.
But he was allowed to remain in Britain under human rights law because he faced mistreatment if sent back to Sudan.
He claimed he was a member of the Zaghawa tribe, which has been persecuted by government forces and Arab tribe militia.
And it has been ruled he can stay indefinitely, unless a court decides the ‘threat’ diminishes and it is safe for him to return to Africa.
Details of the case emerged as Saleh went to court to demand compensation from the Government for locking him up. He claimed he was unlawfully detained following his prison sentence, when he was kept behind bars to protect the public.
But the judge rejected his claim saying he had posed a ‘substantial’ risk to the public and keeping him locked up was necessary.
The decision to allow Saleh to stay sparked outrage.
Tory MP Peter Bone said: ‘I take the very simple view that if someone comes to this country and then breaks the law then he should be sent back to where he comes from.
‘Any arguments about his human rights disappear when he has violated, violently, the rights of a young girl.’
Saleh arrived in the UK in November 2004 hidden in the back of a lorry.
In January 2005 he claimed asylum but this was rejected.
However, because he was under 18, he was allowed to remain until he reached adulthood in October 2006.
He was still in the country in May 2007, when arrested and charged with the sex offences. In February 2008, he was convicted of two charges of sexual activity with a 13-year-old girl.
He was in a group of five immigrants who lured schoolgirls – including three aged 13 and one aged 14 – to a house for sex.
Please be aware that the Nazis were LEFT WINGERS. Do not eat
the brown acid the evil leftist meme. It is a bad trip man lie, that every branch of the media has swallowed without question.
(National) Socialist German Worker’s Party. Nazis. Socialist racist tyrannists. NOT Conservatives, not Republicans, not BNP or English Defense League, not even Tories, not believers in free enterprise, limited government, and nearly unlimited human rights.
The only people to the left of the Nazis were the Soviet commies, and maybe Il Duce and the fascists. Maybe, maybe not. Fine shades of difference.
There are now none, nor have their ever been, any right wing Nazis. Oxymoronic concept.
Well, maybe I misunderstood the history I read on the subject. Not hard to do considering how damned convoluted things got.
The Socialist in National Socialist was not taken to the extremes or even seriously by Hitler, who was after all an opportunist. When he purged the party in the Night of the long knives, and had Ernst Rohm killed, he effectively destroyed the entire left wing of the NSDAP. Of which Rohm was head. Rohm didn’t think the party was left enough, and wanted Hitler to go more in that direction. Something the army and the leading industrialists of Germany would not have agreed to. Racist, yes. Tyrants, yeah. But deeply nationalist. Anyway, the party started out very left to be sure. With 6 members. But once AH took control, everything changed. And it changed to suit his beliefs which often defied labels like left and right. As for tyranny and limited government, if you view the photos of the period, not many Germans viewed it that way. They worshiped Hitler (in the beginning and while they were winning) and his crack down on the unions was seen a positive, which in the circumstances it was.
A good many of those who joined the party were very conservative folks. They saw no conflict with being a conservative and a member of a party that promised to right wrongs and rebuild the country.
btw ... nearly unlimited human rights wasn’t a rallying cry anywhere in Europe in the 30s, and I don’t think it was even a concept except perhaps, in the minds of liberal Jewish intellectuals. And sadly, many of them were either left thinking or members of the Communist Party, at least until the German/Soviet Non Aggression Pact.