Debate Killer


You can buy a two shot, .38 Special, second hand derringer for about $75. They only cost about $150 when brand new. You can spend more, but for a gun that will be fired only twice, why bother?

They aren’t automatics, semi-automatics, revolvers, or even (theoretically) repeaters. They are palm sized pistols that have two stubby barrels. The pistols hold 2 rounds, and each one gets it’s own little barrel.

You could put about a dozen of them in the pockets of a large man’s field coat. With pockets on both sides you could have 25 little pistols hidden on you, and nobody would really notice. Except for the clanking I guess.

Thus you’d have nearly 50 shots that you could shoot off in a very short time; what’s an extra second digging another derringer out of you pocket as you shoot 2 shots with a derringer in your other hand? Especially if you’re the only one around with a firearm in one of those extra-safe Gun Free Zones that are supposed to protect us all.

And at shooting distances from arm’s length to across the room, these pistols are sufficiently accurate and sufficiently lethal.

Bang bang. Drop, while pulling out another with your other hand. Bang bang. Drop, while pulling out another with your other hand. Bang bang. Drop, while pulling ... you get my point. Easy enough to get off at least 30 lethal shots in a minute, a minute and a half, at classroom distances. Easy.

In other words, the only way to use gun control to actually slow down mass killers when they go on their killing spree is to confiscate every last firearm in the entire country and replace them with single shot weapons that are far too large to conceal. You know, like the muskets that were around in 1776. Six feet long, and needing about 45 seconds to reload, even if you’re an expert.

Nothing else is going to do it. Seriously. Every single kind of repeating firearm - in other words, damn near every gun made since 1875 - would have to be turned in or confiscated. Hundreds and hundreds of millions of them. Then, assuming you have the proper permits, assuming you can pass the ever more difficult mental test, assuming you haven’t exceeded your monthly or annual purchase allotment, and assuming you can provide the authorities a sufficiently good reason why you NEED to purchase a gun or purchase a second or third one, then you can have some sort of break-action single shot stovepipe.

Ammunition purchase and possession would of course be by permit, once you’ve shown a previously issued hunting license or membership card for a shooting club, plus an issued owner’s permit for a firearm of that caliber; records of each round fired will have to be kept and uploaded to the government, and you will not be allowed to have more than 3 rounds in your home at any one time regardless of how many firearms you own. And our political masters will call this “reasonable and proper limits” on our rights, and our children will never ever question that statement. Never. Ever.

Otherwise, having a debate on gun control is an utter waste of time. Go all the way, or don’t bother to go at all.

I am not kidding. This is what it would take to actually PREVENT the next lunatic from going on a shooting spree at a school or day-care center. The ONLY thing. Every last house in the nation searched, every last firearm confiscated or turned in. Every round of ammunition.

And let’s get moving on those stab-proof knives in this country too. And bows and arrows as well. Crossbows. And slingshots. And hammers that weigh more than 4 ounces. And all nails more than 2” long. And nail files. And pointy scissors. And pencils and pens that are too pointy. And rolling pins. And swords of course. And any cane or walking stick made of anything more sturdy than closed cell foam. And hockey sticks. Baseball bats not made of straw or hollow thin yellow plastic. All of them, potential instruments of mass murder. Take them away.

After all, it’s for the children. So act now. After all, the MSM, even Fox News, is now reporting that “the majority of Americans are in favor of more gun control”.

What a absolute load of shit.

Posted by Drew458    United States   on 12/18/2012 at 12:11 AM   
  1. I used to get annoyed when libtards called it faux news.

    Sadly, it’s almost to that point now.

    Posted by Friar Bob    United States   12/18/2012  at  01:10 AM  
  2. It won’t eliminate anything. You would have to eliminate the means of making firearms first. Not gonna happen.

    Posted by harleycowboy58    United States   12/18/2012  at  03:45 AM  
  3. I see WHY everyone is going Zonk over this because these were kids barely out of diapers. Not much more to say than I hope the next asshole who does this shit has the decency to pick on adults who might have a fair chance of clipping their ass in a somewhat fair fight.But we all know, Scum, whether Nuts or just Evil don’t give two shits who dies as long as they get to “ Take someone with them”. Just need to let time heal this thing because no Stupid anti anything ideas are going to change or fix it. The End.

    Posted by Rich K    United States   12/18/2012  at  04:22 AM  
  4. You aren’t getting it - gun control (see China school knifing) isn’t THE issue, cause, or problem.

    Starting in the 1970s - the liberals started turning Mental healthcare into a sham - first by eliminating/making nigh on impossible the commitment process. Second, the drugs for mental health treatment (even, or more especially the new ones) are as bad as the disease, it’s no wonder that many people don’t want to take them. And so we are now at the point where someone has to kill to get treatment - isn’t that pathetic.

    And - there is a metabolic syndrome - that mimics many of the diseases du jour (high cholesterol, diabetes, depression) - so once again our Big Pharma/Big Insurance scam healthcare professionals throw meds at the symptoms rather than address the cause.

    Read I Am Adam Lanza’s Mother -

    We went through a lot with youngest son - I checked with everyone/everything (social workers, counselors, Tough Love, etc) it was all ‘minor’ teenage stuff - until someone got hurt. In many ways - my husband and I thank God that he hurt himself and not other people’s ‘children’ (though in high school, I have a hard time with seeing some of them as children), we don’t have that additional pain to deal with.

    Right now - it’s gun control - but just you wait - before the dirt settles on the coffins - I bet lawsuits will start flying. [see Joan of Arcadia - where the paralyzed son is sued by the drunk driver who caused the accident, saw it in real life here. The only survivor (the driver of the hit car) was sued by one of the families of a victim, when it was the first car driven by a 16 year old drunk who killed their daughter.] The legal lottery is part of what has screwed up - our schools, our healthcare, our government and our society.

    The problem comes down to is do we become the soviet union, cuba or venezuela - or do we recover back to a more sane, a more free and a more functional America?

    I do believe we are on the line in the sand.

    Too bad so many people are still believing we can kick the can down the road to let some future generation ‘fix’ it - so that they don’t have to stand up and be courageous.

    Posted by wardmama4    United States   12/18/2012  at  01:47 PM  
  5. Not even close to a solution

    1. I thought drugs are banned - you see how that works - just the criminals have them…

    2. You ignore non-guns (antiques) that are not monitored/treated as “guns”

    3. You ignore the 2nd ammendment - just as the NRA does and leaves out that ALL AMERICANS are/were/will be members of the militia and must be armed with current weaponds.

    The crime in this case is that there are “defense free” zones where the government says that you can not defend yourself… AND THEY ARE NOT LIABLE IF YOU ARE KILLED/hurt…

    It does not help that the “news media” promotes the violence and portrays the criminal as important, not like they should and excluding their name/family from the coverage ("The crazed killer was executed at the time of the crime, they (or family if child) will be paying all costs").

    Retorical question - Why does a criminal receive medical treatment paid for by the government with money taken from me by force) ?

    rick in North Georgia (USA)

    PS. Did not the early reports say the AR-15 rifle was recovered from the trunk of the car afterward, but now IT is blamed for the crime ?

    Posted by RickD94    United States   12/18/2012  at  03:47 PM  
  6. Rick, I did a post on exactly your last question. It turns out there were TWO AR-15s, and that the cops “forgot” to mention - for an entire day - that all the kids and teachers had been killed with the one not in the car trunk, and that the one and only time either the Glock or Sig pistols were fired was when Lanza offed himself.

    Posted by Drew458    United States   12/18/2012  at  07:50 PM  
  7. What about those nasty paper-cuts? Ban newspapers! And news magazines! And junk mail! And tax forms!

    I’ve got my guns & ammo.

    { “Oops! No, I sold them all privately in 2012 to pay for O’BuggerCare, Mr. BATF/Gestapo Agent! Sorry, didn’t get the dudes name.” smile }

    Now I’m concentrating on reloading components. Powder & primers, especially. They’re not like milk: properly stored, their expiration date (decades) is well past my remaining “natural” life expectancy.

    I’m good to go....

    Posted by ooGcM taobmaetS    United States   12/18/2012  at  09:07 PM  
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