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some brits do not approve of american gun rights. woo-hoo and fuck you

Well here damn go again.  I’ve heard about the UN/Gun thing in the last few days but haven’t had a chance to actually read closely or deeply. And I’m not aware of other blogs on the subject.  I have been tied up with lots of personal stuff.  So, today I caught this and read it and am feeling not too bright because I’m not certain on how the UN suggestion which I take to mean major gun manufacturers, would impinge on my right to own a gun.  ???

cracking down on the $60billion global business of illicit trading in small arms.

See? it says illicit. Doesn’t that mean illegal as in bootleg or smuggled arms?
I assumed they were referring to something on the intl. market. Gun running for example.
So I don’t quite understand how the NRA and our Constitution are involved.
Just for the record however, and most here know, I wish we were OUT of the UN and the UN OUT of MY country!

Ah .... okay. I misread something and now things a bit more clear.

DAILY MAIL HAS CUT OFF READER COMMENTS ??

I guess it’s fairly lazy of me but I always thought that if the NRA was against something, I should be too. If for something, I should be too.  Maybe cos I trust the NRA somewhat more the I do the folks in high places disconnected from the real world.
Like the following idiots who have managed to not make my day. I can’t stand these jerks and I read them anyway.  So how freekin smart am I?  Not very I guess.

BTW … the numbers next to their names are all red arrow thumbs down votes.

An example of muddled thinking here in a country where I promise you there’s daily killings and attacks by club, lots of knife killings, beatings etc.  So this fool writes with reference to the USA;

everyone has a basic human right to be safe and not get shot dead.
Very true you ignorant shit.  Now then, Do they also have a right NOT to be stabbed?  And the guy below.  What’s this cousin crap?  We aren’t cousins. Not even distant ones.  And I do not believe what he’s written. It reads like it was made up.

I am and always will be fascinated by our american cousins ‘right to bear arms’. Americans who I have worked with ‘Texans’ tell me that, (a) if the US was to be invaded they would be shot to death by armed Americans. I wondered who would invade the US but this was dismissed as irrelevant and (b) in one part of Texas, the local law was changed to mean that anyone could carry a concealled weapon.He told me that he had called his wife and told her to buy one for her handbag and one for the car. I asked why his wife would want to cary so many guns and he started shouting at me. Our American cousins retain the right to kill each other.
- howardski, londonski, 28/7/2012 11:39
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I am way past being surprised by the American enthusiasm for murdering one another. Notice that all the justifications speak of defending themselves - but that is only valid in a minority of cases, and even then they need guns because the idiots have made it legal and acceptable for villains to routinely carry guns. The NRA are in denial about the American culture of murdering people, and to try to convince most Americans that just because something is inj their Constitution it does not make it right or valid is a lost cause. None so deaf as those who will not hear !
- Brian, Northanpton, 28/7/2012 11:38
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Constitutional Rights, blah, blah, blah, bang, bang bang. The arguement that people need to perpetually buy guns to protect themselves from other people with guns is as thin as it is ludicrous. Innocents will continue to be slaughtered as a consequence of the right to bear arms. Whatever the motives of an assailant, they only need the right to access guns to deny innocents an even greater right, the right to life. This really is a case of physician heal thyself with the physician in constant self denial they have a problem.
- Mick, Somerset, 28/7/2012 10:37
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I hope they succeed at banning ownership of firearms everyone has a basic human right to be safe and not get shot dead because the government hasn’t controlled the fire arm distribution to civilians someone has to take the stand and ban firearms !!
- Elli, London, 28/7/2012 10:20

Now here’s how it’s being reported here in the Sat. issue of The Mail.


UN treaty to crackdown on international trade in small arms is met with ‘greatest force of opposition’… from the NRA

· The National Rifle Association say the treaty is an infringement of their rights
· Barack Obama has suggested stiffer gun laws
· Mitt Romney is against the changes
· Issue has been on UN agenda since 2006, when George Bush ordered a veto

By EMMA REYNOLDS

The United Nations is set to introduce a treaty cracking down on the $60billion global business of illicit trading in small arms.

The move is aimed at curbing violence in some of the most troubled corners of the world, but has unsurprisingly ruffled feathers with pro-gun activists in the US, including those of the National Rifle Association.

They have denounced the treaty as a threat to their constitutional right to bear arms.

READ IT ALL HERE



Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   on 07/28/2012 at 03:10 PM   
 
  1. Notice that all the justifications speak of defending themselves - but that is only valid in a minority of cases

    this is a false statement. Even government BLS and DOJ data say that the vast, VAST majority of gun cases involve an innocent citizen using their gun in self-defense—whether the assailant is killed or simply scared. Hence, the “minority of cases” are actually the ones where some lunatic uses his weapon(s)to do violent crime. This isn’t rhetoric or debate; the statistics and data are overwhelming and conclusive. Any objective, pragmatic review of the facts will show that guns are used defensively FAR more often than they are used offensively.

    Posted by Risk    United States   07/28/2012  at  10:12 PM  
  2. And it occurs to me also that the libtard saying that is okay with the possible idea that, in a minority of cases it’s perfectly okay for those folks to be injured or killed at the hands of an assailant. So gun ban first and prayers for the victims later.
    Don’t ya just wanna bang their heads against a brick wall and shout WAKE UP.

    Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   07/29/2012  at  02:38 AM  
  3. The Micks are even worse.

    Why?

    Because the Catholic ethos demands they strictly adhere to the “Sanctity of life” rule and that means run and hide while the knac..ers loot your house then burn it down before heading off to the nearest Post Office to collect the dole, leaving you to clean up the mess, report the incident to the Garda wait 3 days till they arrive and take notes. That’s pure and simple unadulterated Bull Shit.

    Or

    You can become a martyr when the “Kna..ers” beat you to a bloody pulp with a chair after looting your house and setting it afire and leaving you inside to fry.

    I tell these ignorant twits outright (it pisses the sanctimonious morons off):

    1) I LOVE guns and always have since my daddy bought me my Lee Enfield Mk-IV .303. way back in the 1950’s.

    2) I NEVER have nor will I EVER sign the Sanctity of Life Treaty. It’s cowardly and promotes the criminal element because they don’t play by the rules....OMFG...Really?

    3) My enemy (those who threaten my life, my family’s lives and out PROPERTY) is my enemy till my enemy is DEAD.

    I sincerely mean it. If this old 70 year old has any capabilities I’ll kill anyone who is a direct threat to me, my wife, my daughter and our property. Maybe I can’t use a firearm cause of the idiotic laws that restrict their possession by honest people, but every criminal family in North Dublin and South Limerick has an arsenal that would make the Irish defense Forces envious. But if it comes to it the baseball bats, hurlies and Ka-Bar fighting knives come out of the closet.

    And I’ll worry about the idiot Mick’s legal system afterwards.

    Posted by New Jersey Yankee    Ireland   07/29/2012  at  04:42 AM  
  4. HMMM..Limp-wristed tea drinkers saying WE IN AMERICA are gun crazy?

    Glad he’s able to say that in English, not German..

    Posted by billyd1431    United States   07/29/2012  at  08:31 AM  
  5. Dear British Friends,
    In 2004 I visited your island and had the time of my life.  Wonderful people,wonderful place.  But you know fuck all about Rights.  You have permissions granted by your nanny state government, which took your firearms away years ago.  In my opinion you should stay out of Americas business especially when it comes to the UN which most Americans despise.  Enjoy hosting the Olympics and stay the hell out of this debate.  You have no dog in this fight.  You pussied out long ago and your opinions are not relevant.

    With love,
    grayjohn USA

    Posted by grayjohn    United States   07/29/2012  at  03:02 PM  
  6. Oorah grayjohn!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by cmblake6    United States   07/29/2012  at  05:04 PM  
  7. grayjohn May I second cmblake6 .... Oorah indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   07/30/2012  at  06:31 AM  
  8. Just read grayjohn’s comment to Brit wife who approves totally.
    She loves her country in spite of itself, but sees little hope for future.

    Posted by peiper    United Kingdom   07/30/2012  at  06:36 AM  
  9. You have to learn how to read between the lines and understand the all inclusive words.

    Small arms. No distiction between full auto and semiauto or single shot.

    Sporting and Recreational Shooting. This will be defined by what they want it to be. Not what you think it is.

    And the list goes on.

    Posted by harleycowboy58    United States   07/30/2012  at  09:19 PM  
  10. Euro-peeons: a bunch of spineless, gutless sheep ruled by a group of Elitist Faggots!

    Posted by Macker    United States   07/31/2012  at  04:58 PM  
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