Tuesday - August 09, 2011
london bridges burning down …. more cities visited by violence and looting
I have to be somewhere but booted to follow up on newspaper stories. Didn’t expect to boot this morning. Have another busy day ahead and away from puter.
But I want America to see this new level in violence from the scum in control of the streets on major cities.
BTW ...
It has spread to other cities as you may already know. Birmingham ... Liverpool ... Manchester
Although it started with them, what’s going on now isn’t all done by nig negroes. White anarchists and just plain hood and thugs of any color taking advantage of the situation. They should all be put down like the mad dogs they are.
Meanwhile ... the usual bs from the left as Lyndon has pointed out in a comment from yesterday. I heard the ppl on radio interview.
PLEASE folks ... take a good look at the articles and photos.
The apologists are already making excuses for what they call, disaffected youth who don’t think they have a future and so this is the result. They are only Sorrowful yoots who’ve lost their way. Blah, Blah, Blah
A quick translation although it is obvious I think. The Brits almost always say ‘floor’ where Americans use the word ground.
Forced to strip naked in the street: Shocking scenes as rioters steal clothes and rifle through bags as people make their way home
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
Last updated at 8:31 AM on 9th August 2011This is the shocking moment a young man is apparently forced to hand over all of his clothes after appearing to be stripped naked during lawless riots overnight.
Internet rumours last night claimed that on top of the widespread destruction across London and Birmingham, people were having their clothes removed by looters as police attempted to contain the criminality.
Another picture which emerged overnight shows an unnamed woman completely naked next to a police officer after apparently having her clothes taken from her.
Reports on Twitter claimed some people were being stripped, while another shocking video shows a bleeding teenager being robbed in broad daylight by lawless thugs who pretend to help him to his feet.
The unnamed teenager is shown being apparently assisted by kind-hearted passers-by after being spotted injured and bleeding from the nose on the floor.
But seconds after the vulnerable man is helped from the ground, callous looters instead start rifling through his rucksack.
With over a dozen young men standing nearby, the teenager tries to stop the bleeding from his nose as thieves continue the daylight robbery.
A man who is clearly seen picking items from the teenager’s bag then wanders off with his loot, before carelessly discarding the items on the floor.
The teenager appears largely unaware he is being robbed until it is too late, where he swats a hand at one of the robbers while trying to stop his face bleeding.
Although hundreds have been arrested all over London since the riots started, the shameless yobs in the YouTube video have been condemned by internet users as ‘the lowest of the low’.
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I don’t have a lot of time at the moment and and so leave you with this. Please see links for more.
Britain burns at hands of the mob as the PM finally flies home: Gangs armed with petrol bombs and poles on THIRD night of riots and cynical looting
Click the photo here for follow up and lots of photos.
Home Secretary rules out calls to send in the Army, insisting
“the way we police is by consent.”
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Sunday - August 07, 2011
is paris burning? no. but london is. again. rioters at play. again.
WHAT’S WITH THIS? THE BLITZ? NOPE. IT ALL STARTED ORIGINALLY BECAUSE ......
This fellow, Mark Duggan, a gentle soul who wouldn’t hurt a fly if you believe friends and his girlfriend and his mommy, was shot dead by de po-leece.
Now come on. It is not racist to suggest that we all know what happens when some minority member gets himself graveyard dead at the hands of cops.
It’s automatic. The cops are always wrong before any sort of investigation has a chance to happen, and anyway, rioters of any color or religion or national origin take up the cry of pious outrage and show their protests by setting fire to buildings and cars and of course, looting. Nothin’ like a new TV or a puter to show how much you care. When you care enough to steal the best. Or steal anything for that matter.
So this is what these sub-humans do.
Riot blaze: North London in flames as police cars, bus and shops burn over police shooting of ‘gangster’
· Twenty-six police officers hurt in clashes, with eight treated in hospital
· Scotland Yard still dealing with ‘isolated pockets of crime’ this morning
· Tottenham MP David Lammy appeals for calm and warns that there may be fatalities
· Mob of 500 people protest about death of father-of-four Mark Duggan who was shot by officers
· Fears that violence was fanned by Twitter as picture of burning police car was re-tweeted more than 100 times
· One eyewitness reports that trouble was ignited by police hitting a 16-year-old girl with batons
· Shop looted and youths storm McDonald’s and start cooking their own food
· Mail on Sunday photographers beaten and mugged by masked thugsBy IAN GALLAGHER and STEVE FARRELL
Last updated at 4:40 PM on 7th August 2011
The family of Mark Duggan has condemned the riot that broke out in Tottenham last night as eyewitness reports emerge that trouble erupted after a 16-year-old girl threw a rock at police.
Mr Duggan was shot dead by marksmen on Thursday and his fiancee, Semone Wilson, has said that she wanted answers, not trouble, while his brother, Shaun Hall, called for the community to remain calm.
The Metropolitan Police has described Mr Duggan’s death as ‘regrettable’ and blamed the violent anarchy that flared on a ‘criminal minority’.
Fuck NO his death was not regrettable at all.
Reports say he shot at a policeman who was saved by the bullet hitting or glancing off his radio. He was a known gun runner according to early reports, and imported guns to various gangs. Why the media insist on calling scum ‘protesters’ is beyond me.
There is always an element that will take advantage of situations and this is the result.
If police were allowed to shoot dead the vandals and rock throwers and looters, there might be less of this. And cops (as shown at one of the links) should not have to waste their undermanned time treating injured rioters before arrest.
The photos will speak for themselves and there are a load of them HERE
The feds are chasing me..
Last words of ‘gangsta’ who was shot by cops
By ANTHONY FRANCE and CHRIS POLLARD
A GUNMAN killed in a shootout with police had texted his girlfriend minutes earlier to say: “The feds are following me.”
Suspected gangster Mark Duggan, 29, fired a handgun at an armed cop, whose life was saved when the bullet hit his radio.The officer returned fire with his Heckler & Koch MP5 sub-machine gun - blasting dad-of-five Duggan twice in the face before slumping to the ground.
As the rioting escalated, trouble-makers on Twitter seemed keen to orchestrate the violence, bringing scores more people into the area. One user calling himself ‘English Frank’ urged attacks on the police, saying: ‘Everyone up and roll to Tottenham f*** the 50 [police]. I hope 1 dead tonight.’
And in a clear incitement to looting, ‘Sonny Twag’ tweeted: ‘Want to roll Tottenham to loot. I do want a free TV. Who wudn’t.’
‘Mrs Lulu’ tweeted: ‘Brehs [men] asking who’s down to roll [go] Tottenham right now, to get justice. – RIP Mark x.’
A tweet apparently passed on by chart-topping rapper Chipmunk, who comes from Tottenham, paid tribute to the dead man: ‘R.I.P Mark Duggan a real straight up and down respected man. LOVE!!!!!!!!’
Joining in the Twitter frenzy, ‘Ashley AR’ tweeted: ‘I hear Tottenham’s going coco-bananas right now. Watch me roll.’
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Thursday - August 04, 2011
Dead Goblin += 1;
Story sent in by reader Guitar Teacher:
NEWPORT, Ky. - Newport police continue to investigate the death of 21-year-old Jordan Risheberger who was shot after breaking into a woman’s residence early Monday morning.
Officers were called to the home on 16th Street around 1 a.m. Monday where they found the man dead following a shooting inside the home.
Police say the Risheberger, described as a white male wearing only boxer shorts, entered the home of 63-year-old Phyllis Maloney, through a rear door. Maloney told police the man refused to leave and kept approaching her so she fired two or three shots, striking the suspect in the head.
“She did meet the parameters of what Kentucky law would require. She did give some commands, requested him to leave the house. She felt that her life was threatened. He kept forcing his way through as she was talking to him, trying to get him to stop. He made her retreat back through the home,” said Lt. Tom Collins with the Newport Police Department.
Neighbors say the woman lives alone.
Police say the suspect did not have any sort of identification on him at the time of his death. His name was released Monday night.
Police say Risheberger was a Florence resident who had two previous charges on his record, including marijuana possession and a misdemeanor drug charge.
So my guess is he turned his hand to burglary with rape in mind? Or was he just a whacked out halfwit in his undies trying to get into the wrong house by mistake? We’ll never know.
Riseberger was a cook at the local Bob Evans. He was reported missing Monday after having wandered away from a party at 1am the night before. Someone who claims to have known him posted on a recreational drug forum that he was probably tripping, as that was his style.
Sorry hippies; don’t turn to crime even if you’re high. It’s not worth it.
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Friday - July 29, 2011
buys bike from cop auction, then arrested for stealing the bike.
Hey darn it …. while I’ve been breathing paint thinner and bon fires and trimming hedges and depressed because I can’t afford to fly first class, Drew has the time to go bowling? Ah well. RHIP. Right? lol.
Well done on winning week Drew. Now back to the keyboard.
This story belongs to the Keystoned Kops. Yeah. Stoned. Must-a-been. It’s funny in a way. Except for the poor victim of plod bungling. And as someone pointed out in comments and we thought about when reading it in the paper, what about his cost for fixing up the damn thing? Apologies are meaningless. If civilians have to own up and pay up, in full, then the police dept. should too.
H/T Surrey Constabulary Blog
Police sold me a stolen motorbike .. then they took it back
A team of officers raided a man’s home to recover a stolen motor-cycle – which he had bought from a police auction weeks earlier.Kris Lech bought the bike in good faith for £500 and then spent £700 refurbishing it.
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Kris Lech, 29, bought the Yamaha bike from an official sale of recovered vehicles in Addiewell for nearly £500 and repaired it with £700 worth of new parts.
But a mix-up meant that when he tried to register the vehicle with the DVLA it appeared as stolen. Officers from Tayside Police ordered that the bike be seized and Mr Lech’s Muirhouse home was searched for four hours for other “stolen property”. Today Mr Lech told how he was still waiting for an apology as well as compensation.Tayside Police insiders said there had been a “double whammy” of mistakes and that they had never seen such a gaffe. Mr Lech, who moved to Edinburgh from Poland six years ago, said he had been left “highly embarrassed” and “stressed” by the incident, especially as he had spent so much money fixing up the motorcycle. It has now been returned to its original owner.
Mr Lech, a handyman who bought the motorcycle for work, said: “I went to the auction because I have bought things from police auctions before and I have had no problems. I paid for the bike, transported it home, ordered new parts to fix it up, put most of the new parts in the bike, and sent off to the DVLA to register it. Then on July 6, six police officers came to my house and searched the whole place while I was at work. My girlfriend was highly stressed and angry, and I was devastated when I found it was gone after all the work I’d done.
“I felt embarrassed that people in the street had seen what happened when I am decent and hardworking. I was told to contact Drylaw Police Station the next day to find out more about the bike, but even though I have done so three times I have heard nothing about getting any money back. They took all the old parts and the new parts I bought.”
He added: “I would like answers. You don’t expect to be buying something dodgy at a police auction.”It has emerged that the bike, which was taken from a house in Carnoustie last March and reported as stolen, was spotted a month later being driven without number plates in Dundee and confiscated by police.
But an error on the police national computer system meant it did not come up as stolen property.Police discovered that the vehicle was registered to a house in Carnoustie, but when an officer visited the property, a man who answered the door said he knew nothing about it.
Three months later, the unclaimed bike was auctioned off, but after the new owner, Mr Lech, fixed it up with new parts and registered it with the DVLA, it was then flagged up as being stolen and officers ordered the raid.A police source said: “This guy bought the bike at a police auction, completely legit, and it seems there has been a double whammy of errors – a mistake on the computer system and a possible human error. Somewhere in the system there has been a serious breakdown. There are checks in place to stop this sort of thing, but the system isn’t perfect.
“I’ve never heard of anything like it. It’s unbelievable that this has happened, but it has. I’m pretty sure this guy would be high on the list for compensation.”
A Tayside Police spokesman said: “We can confirm the vehicle had been reported stolen and inquiries are ongoing.”
He added that a letter was being sent to Mr Lech with details of a refund for the purchase of the bike.
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Thursday - July 07, 2011
It’s Getting Higher
But only if you keep the pressure on. Write, email, phone your reps. Do the same for the media. Demand an honest, open, and huge investigation. AG Eric Holder ACTED UNDER ORDERS, as did the BATFE, FBI, DEA, and who knows who else? Probably the damn Parks Department too. And who has the power to coordinate those departments? President Obama and the Director of Homeland Security.
Americans have DIED because of this con!! And the whole bleeding thing was done to advance the Democratic Agenda: more gun control. Plain and simple.
Yesterday, Acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson answered questions from Rep. Darrell Issa and Senator Charles Grassley surrounding Operation Fast and Furious. Melson voluntarily participated in the interview and appeared with personal counsel, meaning although the Justice Department has prohibited Melson to testify before Congress on behalf of the DOJ about the scandal, he can in fact come forward with information as an individual informant outside of the DOJ and separate from DOJ interests.
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Melson revealed the scope of Operation Fast and Furious reaches far beyond ATF and the Justice Department. He said the FBI, DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) and other agencies were heavily involved:
We have very real indications from several sources that some of the gun trafficking “higher-ups” that the ATF sought to identify were already known to other agencies and may even have been paid as informants. The Acting Director said that ATF was kept in the dark about certain activities of other agencies, including DEA and FBI. Mr.Melson said that he learned from ATF agents in the field that information obtained by these agencies could have had a material impact on the Fast and Furious investigation as far back as late 2009 or early 2010. After learning about the possible role of DEA and FBI, he testified that he reported this information in April 2011 to the Acting Inspector General and directly to then-Acting Deputy Attorney General James Cole on June 16, 2011.
The evidence we have gathered raises the disturbing possibility that the Justice Department not only allowed criminals to smuggle weapons but that taxpayer dollars from other agencies may have financed those engaging in such activities. While this is preliminary information, we must find out if there is any truth to it. According to Acting Director Melson, he became aware of this startling possibility only after the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and the indictments of the straw purchasers, which we now know were substantially delayed by the U.S. Attorney’s Office and Main Justice.
Looks like it’s finger pointing time in DC as all the little scumrats scurry around trying to squeak “not me! not me!” Snap a trap on their asses. The top crimefighters in the country, working hand in glove with known alien criminals in hopes of pulling a fast one on the American people? Son of a bitch.
Of course, those words have yet to be spoken. It’s going to take some more heat before the big rats squeak that line out. But you know that that is the real truth. For now the focus is merely on everyone in DC with a suit and a badge being involved with a highly illegal straw purchasing scam. We’ll get around to motives eventually. Right now we’re still turning over rocks looking for worms.
Oh, and merely as an aside, when asked about this by the Mexican government, our big honchos denied everything. Do you know what purposely arming a huge group of organized criminals in a foreign country is, to the point where they effectively become a standing army strong enough to topple the local government and law enforcement agencies? It is an act of war. Straight up subversion. Casus belli. See, toldja is was bigger than Watergate.
The October 27, 2009 email from ATF Phoenix Field Division Special Agent in Charge (SAC) William Newell regarded a Southwest Border Strategy Group meeting that focused on Fast and Furious. It contained a laundry list of high ranking Justice Department officials that attended the meeting, including:
* Assistant Attorney General (Criminal Division) Lanny Breuer,
* Kenneth Melson, Acting Director, ATF
* William Hoover, Acting Deputy Director, ATF
* Michele Leonhart, Administrator, DEA
* Robert Mueller, Director FBIFour other Justice Department directors or their representatives came from the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF), Bureau of Prisons (BOP), U.S. Marshals Service (USMS), and the Executive Office for United States Attorneys (EOUSA). The chair of the Attorney Generals Advisory Committee (AGAC) also attended the session. Their names were redacted in the released document. U.S. attorneys for all four southwest border states also attended.
Operation Fast and Furious, now known to many by the more accurate name of “Gunwalker,” was a multi-agency operation that allowed and — in some instances — approved the purchase of firearms destined for Mexican drug cartels by so-called “straw buyers.” The purchasers, who had clean criminal records, would buy firearms from U.S. gun stores for drug gangs. While most gun smuggling involves small quantities of weapons, a small number of high-volume straw purchasers each bought hundreds of firearms for the cartels.
ATF agents were told by their supervisors to ignore their agency’s charter and training and allow the guns to be smuggled into Mexico without interdiction. Roughly 2,000 firearms — ranging from pistols and AK-pattern semi-automatic rifles to .50 BMG sniper rifles — were smuggled into Mexico under Gunwalker and without the knowledge of Mexican authorities. Hundreds of smuggled weapons have turned up at crime scenes across Mexico and the U.S. border states and at least 152 law enforcement officers and soldiers have been killed with Gunwalker weapons.
While it has been known since the beginning of the investigation that the ATF, DOJ, DHS, and the IRS were heavily involved in Gunwalker, the Newell email confirms that every major agency within the Department of Justice was briefed on Gunwalker, including the AGAC, which has the formally ordered functions of giving U.S attorneys a voice in department policies and advising the attorney general.
Also known as Project Gunrunner, the Arizona-based operation was supposed to be a sting, under which the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which is part of the Justice Department, allowed “straw purchasers” to transfer weapons from gun shops in Arizona to Mexican drug cartels to trace and halt crossborder arms-trafficking.
That’s the official version, anyway—but it’s crumbling, fast.
The ATF’s acting director, Kenneth Melson, has been singing like a canary to congressional investigators as he pushes back against administration pressure for him to resign and take the fall for something that, at the very least, had to include the US Attorney’s Office, the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration and possibly the Homeland Security Department.
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“The evidence we have gathered raises the disturbing possibility that the Justice Department not only allowed criminals to smuggle weapons, but that taxpayer dollars from other agencies may have financed those engaging in such activities,” they wrote.“It is one thing to argue that the ends justify the means in an attempt to defend a policy that puts building a big case ahead of stopping known criminals from getting guns. Yet it is a much more serious matter to conceal from Congress the possible involvement of other agencies in identifying and maybe even working with the same criminals that Operation Fast and Furious was trying to identify.”
That’s the key to this mess—and the reason that Operation Fast and Furious might turn out to be the biggest Washington scandal since Iran-Contra.
As Issa and Grassley note in their letter, had the other agencies shared information—theoretically the goal of the post-9/11 revamp of the intelligence and law-enforcement agencies—“then ATF might have known that gun trafficking ‘higher-ups’ had already been identified.”
So if the identities of the Mexican criminals were known to the feds, what was the point of Project Gunrunner—and why is Holder so desperately trying to stonewall by withholding hundreds of documents from Congress?
Law-abiding gun owners and dealers think they already know. With the Obama administration wedded to the fiction that 90 percent of the guns Mexican cartels use originate here—they don’t—many suspect that “Fast and Furious” was a backdoor attempt to smear domestic gun aficionados as part of its stealth efforts on gun control by executive fiat.
“I just want you to know that we’re working on it,” Obama was quoted as saying to gun-control advocate Sarah Brady in March. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”
Unfortunately for the administration, this one’s out in the open now.
And the cover up and the stonewalling that’s been going on for months now? Gosh, glad you asked:
Mr. Melson said that he told the Office of the Deputy Attorney General (ODAG) at the end of March that the Department needed to reexamine how it was responding to the requests for information from Congress.
According to Mr. Melson, he and ATF’s senior leadership team moved to reassign every manager involved in Fast and Furious, from the Deputy Assistant Director for Field Operations down to the Group Supervisor, after learning the facts in those documents. Mr. Melson also said he was not allowed to communicate to Congress the reasons for the reassignments. He claimed that ATF’s senior leadership would have preferred to be more cooperative with our inquiry much earlier in the process. However, he said that Justice Department officials directed them not to respond and took full control of replying to briefing and document requests from Congress. The result is that Congress only got the parts of the story that the Department wanted us to hear.
Acting ATF Director flat out lays the blame for the smokescreen at Holder’s doorstep:
“If his account is accurate, then ATF leadership appears to have been effectively muzzled while the DOJ sent over false denials and buried its head in the sand,” Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said in a letter Tuesday to Attorney General Eric Holder. “That approach distorted the truth and obstructed our investigation.” (news video at link)
Your taxpayer dollars were spent to buy those guns you know. $10,000,000 to be exact:
[ text of HR1 stimulus bill of 2009 ] For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance’, $40,000,000, for competitive grants to provide assistance and equipment to local law enforcement along the Southern border and in High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas to combat criminal narcotics activity stemming from the Southern border, of which $10,000,000 shall be transferred to ‘Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Salaries and Expenses’ for the ATF Project Gunrunner.
Can’t blame Bush for this one.
Now watch it be utterly buried by the MSM. I already checked CNN.com. This story does not exist. AT ALL. The only thing remotely similar is one story on ATF head may quit from TWO WEEKS ago which does outline Gunwalker somewhat, and another one in which idiot Rep Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland) says how Fast & Furious shows the need for more gun control.
Most honest and transparent government, evah!
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Friday - July 01, 2011
Foolish Child
HILLCREST HEIGHTS, Md. - Prince George’s County Police say a five-year-old boy shot a four-year-old boy on a playground in the 4400 block of 23rd Parkway in Hillcrest Heights.
Police are still trying to figure out where the five-year-old boy was able to access the gun. They believe he found it in the home, but don’t know whose gun it is.
Police say the bullet passed right through the upper part of the four-year-old’s torso.
Ebony Webb says she was there when the four-year-old boy ran into his apartment after he was shot. She called 911 and helped clean the wound. Officials transported the four-year-old to Children’s Hospital. Authorities say the gunshot wound is not life-threatening.
Police say after shooting, they found the boy who pulled the trigger and the gun he used in the boy’s apartment. Police are questioning the shooter’s parents and other adults who had access to the apartment.
Ebony Webb rushed downstairs to discover the five-year-old had shot his four-year-old playmate through the chest.
She told ABC7: ‘He shot him real close so I took him upstairs… took metal pieces out of the wound.’ She added: ‘He didn’t cry or nuthin.’ He’s a soldier.’
Miss Webb said the injured boy was in shock, so she laid him on her bed and called police, then did her best to clean him up.
The shooter ran back to his family’s apartment, where police later found him and the weapon. Ebony Webb says she was there when the four-year-old boy ran into his apartment after he was shot.
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“We just heard a big boom, a big shot,” Webb said.
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“How did the five-year-old obtain the handgun, and who does it belong to?” Prince George’s County Police Officer Mike Rodriguez asked.One witness told MyFoxDC that it appeared to be a .22-caliber handgun. Dee Johnson, 29, who identified himself as the shooter’s uncle, told The Washington Post that the boy found the gun outside. He added that the boy’s mother, who lives in the apartment with three other children, does not keep guns there.
Authorities are questioning residents of the apartment complexes about the incident, and it is possible that charges will be filed.
Very sad state of affairs, that’s all I’ll say. I doubt that either of these boys will live to see 30. I don’t know Hillcrest Heights, but I can guess. And my guess is that it isn’t a good place to raise a family.
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Monday - June 20, 2011
some law, some disorder and lots of stuck on stupid
In a comment made on another subject, Wardmom4 said,
The liberal criminal ‘justice’ system is STUCK ON STUPID!
See what can be accomplished when you are just adult enough to tell the children NO and the criminals go to jail and then have some real consequences when they come out.
And that caught my eye and imagination when I read the story that came with the photo you see here. But you don’t need that to see how completely upside down the ‘rule of law’ is. There wasn’t anyone to say NO to these guys when young. And jail was no real threat either.
A ROBBER caught on camera taking part in a $435,000 raid on a London Jeweler had been free from jail for only 27 days. He was set free after serving half his sentence for another heist of like nature. We can see how well the softly,softly approach to crime works.
Good start to his career since he is only 20 years old. He’s learning early that even when caught, the law is pretty much toothless.
The govt. here is instituting a new scheme wherein if the bad guy admits guilt at arrest, then the prison term is halved. Originally it was going to include some rape crimes but the outrage was such that the plan was dropped in all rape cases as well as very violent crimes. But burglars and small time robbers or robbery without violence will see terms cut.
Hey,hey Britain. Waytago. You can show us barbarians in the USA exactly how crime should be dealt with while quoting our figures with regard to how many Americans are jailed. We are really mad and evil, right?
Anyway, the bad guys here were caught because DNA was found that nailed em to this crime. One of the two misunderstood miscreants has 19 previous convictions. He was awarded four years and three months. Good. That’ll send a message I bet. A funny one. That’s exactly why I used the word “awarded.”

At the scene of the crime:
A gang of robbers armed with axes are being hunted by police after escaping with more than £100,000 worth of watches in a day-time raid on a City jewellers. Four men on mopeds struck at Watches of Switzerland in the City of London’s Royal Exchange yesterday afternoon. They broke through the locked front door of the store and used axes to smash cabinets grabbing handfuls of expensive watches.
A lone customer in the store and four staff were left terrified by the raid just before 3.30pm. As the gang sped off a City worker tried to grab one of the raiders at a zebra crossing but they escaped.
Police cornered two of the men on an industrial estate in Upper Holloway but they ran off abandoning a hold-all full of watches.
kids in playground helped solve the case:
A nine year old boy helped police crack a case involving the theft of almost a quarter of a million pounds worth of watches from a robbery after finding a mobile phone in his school playground. It’s thought the phone had either been ditched or was accidentally dropped by the robbers as they were fleeing the scene of the crime.
The contact details on the phone led police straight to the robbers and consequently both Jed McDonald aged 21 and Charlie Kavanagh aged 20, both living in Islington London were arrested along with three other suspects.
The robbery took place in the Royal Exchange London at the Watches of Switzerland shop on the 2nd of February this year. The store is a well know retail outlet for luxury and Swiss watches. During the robbery staff and customers were threatened by the robbers with axes as other members of the gang smashed open cabinets containing luxury watches.
At the case, held at the Old Bailey on the 17th of June the court heard that the robbers escaped with 28 watches worth an estimated £250,000 from leading luxury brands such as Rolex, Patek Philippe and Cartier amongst others and after ditching their mopeds fled through a school playground in Holloway London where the phone was dropped along with other items including a balaclava which was found to contain the DNA of one of the suspects.
Due to the overwhelming evidence both men pleaded guilty. Jed McDonald was sentenced to 4 years and 3 months while Charlie Kavanagh was sentenced to 8 years.
[ June 3 ] City of London Police released the images after two of the four men pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit robbery. Jed McDonald, 21, and Charlie Kavanagh, 20, are waiting to be sentenced at the Old Bailey this month.
The pair, both from Islington, were arrested after they were identified by DNA traces on clothing and motorcycle gear. The items were abandoned after a police chase following the raid in February which ended at an estate in Upper Holloway.
The conviction is a much-needed success for police, who have been overwhelmed by London’s surge in these brazen yet hard to solve smash and grab raids. Last month alone there were more than ten in the borough of Westminster - double the number in the same month last year - and each year the haul from the raids is estimated at millions of pounds’ worth of goods.
Smash and grab raids on the streets of London are not new. They evolved from the notorious ram-raiders of the 1990s when criminals used high-powered cars to smash their way into stores to snatch jewels or high-value electrical goods. Pioneered in the North East where the raids quickly became an epidemic, London’s gangs adapted the methods to suit the city’s slow-moving traffic, quickly realising that motorbikes or mopeds were almost impossible to chase successfully and could escape through even the heaviest of traffic jams. Instead of using cars to break through shop fronts, robbers started carrying sledge-hammers or axes. Often the robberies last for just 30 seconds and the gangs are gone before police can arrive. Police say it is too dangerous to mount pursuits of the motorcycles or mopeds, which their riders drive at speeds of up to 100mph, sometimes through crowded streets.
Almost ironic: These 4 “men in black” did their crime just 2 days before an entire gang - 51 crooks - the infamous “Men In White” were convicted of the same kind of crimes:
Britain’s biggest robbery gang who smashed their way into dozens of jewellery stores swiping gems in 60 seconds, were jailed for a total of 140 years today.
Dubbed the ‘Men in White’ due to their distinctive boiler suits, the 51-strong gang used sledgehammers and axes to batter their way into High Street jewellers stealing £3.6million of designer watches and jewellery.
They were responsible for an extraordinary crime wave of 34 robberies in 16 months across the UK and Europe as they hit a new target every fortnight.
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Friday - June 17, 2011
Canada Sux, Eh?
I have no sympathy for these scum. Line them up against the wall by their thousands and shoot them. Anyone that out of control due to the results of a sporting event is a danger to the rest of the human race, and like a rabid dog, ought to be put down without hesitation or recourse.
Oh boo hoo, our team lost the game. (In this case it was a hockey game, Boston edging out Vancouver to win the Stanley Cup. Yeah, it’s the middle of June fer cryin out loud, and these wizards are still playing hockey.
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We lost. So let’s destroy a good section of our own city. Burn cars. Start Fights. Break windows. Steal. Loot. Destroy. Because a team lost a game.
Granted the same thing often happens when some team wins a game. Up against the wall with that lot too.
You want to drink, fine. You want to sing in public, fine. You want to gather together for a while and all howl at the moon, fine. Parade up and down the street celebrating “your” victory or mourning “your” loss, nyet problemski. Pitch a mass violent tantrum and cause millions in damages and forfeit your right to live. On the spot. It’s that simple.
Scum. Poison gas is too good for the likes of them. Wood chippers come to mind, and really large fish hooks.
And yeah, that sentiment applies to any hooligans who get violent after any game in any sport, whether their favorite team wins or loses. It’s a game you morons. An utterly meaningless worthless bit of entertainment. And that’s all that it is. Just another way to waste a few hours of your life watching someone else do something. Pure twaddle, all of it.
Here’s a great big portfolio of pictures of the rioters. My hope is that the local police are using these and the thousands of other photos out there to do the biggest round up they’ve done in generations, while some other bunch is busy building a whole entire prison to hold these vermin in.
And while you are looking at the pictures, let’s play a quick game of “One of these things is not like the others”. You’ll see it. And all I can say about that one is ... nice bottom!
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Thursday - June 16, 2011
Murder At Government House
Police on Thursday were preparing to charge the son of Papua New Guinea’s acting prime minister with murder after the body of a 29-year-old waitress was found at the family home.
Theo Abal, 21, will likely make his first court appearance Friday once he is charged in the killing of the woman, police spokesman Dominic Kakas said. He could face the death penalty if convicted.
A guard at the house told police he saw Abal and the woman arrive home in the early hours of Monday and head for a garden on the premises. Police said that the guard later heard the woman scream and that Abal confessed to killing her.
Kakas said her throat had been cut. A kitchen knife found near her body was the suspected weapon, he said.
Acting Prime Minister Sam Abal said he personally reported the “alleged murder” to Police Commissioner Tony Wagambie on Monday after the woman’s body was found at his home in the capital, Port Moresby.
He made no comment on his son’s alleged confession but pledged to cooperate fully. He said in a statement Tuesday that if any of his relatives are involved, “they will face the full brunt of the law and will not be treated differently from anyone else.”
… the island nation has had the death penalty for only a few years and has yet to carry out an execution, though a handful of defendants have been sentenced to death.
Theo Abal, the younger of Sam Abal’s two children, is unemployed and lives at his father’s house.
Kakas said the dead woman worked as a waitress at a Port Moresby hotel. Her name has not been made public.
Wagambie said Tuesday that the acting prime minister was away from the house and was alerted to the death by the security guard, who found the woman’s body in a banana garden.
Sam Abal - who is acting Prime Minister while Sir Michael Somare recovers from heart surgery - said on Tuesday that an ‘’unfortunate and regrettable incident’’ had taken place at the family’s Port Moresby home at the weekend. ABC radio reported yesterday that Teo Abal had been arrested. He had been missing since the body was found.
Mr Abal told the PNG Parliament on Tuesday that his family would co-operate with police to ensure justice was done.
‘’The alleged murder took place within the perimeters of my private home,’’ Mr Abal said in the Post Courier on Tuesday. Mr Abal had recently moved to a hotel and was not living at the Konedobu address, the newspaper said.
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‘’We will not interfere in this case. If any of my family members are involved, they will face the full brunt of the law and will not be treated differently as anyone else in similar situations,’’ Mr Abal said.
‘’Anyone found to be involved will face the full consequences of the law. They will be charged with murder in the same way as any other person in society that has no regard for value of human life and dignity of a person,’’ he added.
Boy is it easy to draw inferences from this one. But let’s not be hasty. Papua New Guinea has been the target of Christian missionaries for a very long time, to the point where only a third of the population still follows the indigenous beliefs (former headhunters). Islam barely even has a toehold, making up less than 1% of the population. I think what we have here may be a case of a spoiled rich kid who wasn’t going to take a NO from a commoner.
[ from May 12 ] Papua New Guinea’s absent prime minister, Sir Michael Somare, has had heart-valve replacement surgery in Singapore, the PNG parliament has been told.
Three weeks after Sir Michael stepped down and handed the reins to deputy Sam Abal, it is still not known when he will return to work. Sir Michael is recovering in Singapore following corrective surgery after an earlier, operation on his heart, the Port Moresby-based Post Courier newspaper reported on Thursday.
The acting prime minister, Mr Abal, briefed parliament on Sir Michael’s condition.
“The people of Papua New Guinea have been praying for our prime minister since he was admitted into hospital for surgery last month,” Mr Abal was quoted as saying. “The surgery was successful but Sir Michael developed some complications in the post-operative period that required corrective surgery. Consequently, corrective surgery has taken place and Sir Michael is in recovery.”
Sir Michael was expected to return to the office on April 18 following a two-week suspension after he was found guilty of financial misconduct dating back 20 years.
I don’t know what the financial misconduct was, but I think it’s cool that the country gave their leader a big old Time Out for being a bad boy.
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Tuesday - June 14, 2011
Really Ironic
LOS ANGELES—A 780-year-old religious relic of St. Anthony of Padua has been stolen, and parishioners at a Southern California Catholic church are praying to the patron saint of lost causes and missing objects for its speedy return.
The relic was stolen from inside a cabinet beside the altar at St. Anthony Catholic Church in Long Beach on Monday, the feast day of the church’s namesake.
The Rev. Jose Magana said he decided to bring out the relic this year, on the 780th anniversary of the death of St. Anthony, because many of his parishioners have lost hope in the rough economy.
The church opened at 6 a.m., and when Magana turned to the relic during the 9 a.m. Mass, it had disappeared. Magana could hear his parishioners gasp when they realized it was gone, but he continued with the service and called police immediately afterward.
Long Beach police Lt. Paul Arcala said the relic is housed in a 16-inch tall reliquary case with angel-shaped handles made of gold and silver on either side. He declined to describe it further because that might jeopardize the investigation.
Police were looking for a person who was seen at all five Masses on Sunday and was unusually curious about the relic, Arcala said. Witnesses said she got too close and had to be asked to step away. The woman was in her late 30s and was short and heavyset with wavy, shoulder-length black hair.
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“People here are pretty upset but they’re praying. They’re praying to St. Anthony for the return of his own object.”
It takes a special kind of low life to steal from a church. Ripping off the alms box is bad enough, but stealing the religious possessions is far worse.
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Friday - June 10, 2011
guy rapes, gets out of jail and … yeah. does it again. law and disorder.
As happens so often here, an article of maddening content comes along and even before I post it with my own take and or anger, one of our regulars posts a comment or two that’s right on the mark, on the subject of crime and punishment. Or as in this case, a total lack of it.
It’s this kind of thing that makes so many people have zero respect for the law and the courts. In fact, there’s even more proof of that.
Recently, a young burglar broke into the home of an 80 year old woman with health problems. She was sadly subject to strokes and she had one and died.
Since the criminal couldn’t have been aware of her condition, they didn’t bring manslaughter charges against him, and he was originally sentenced to 6months. So he went on Facebook and bragged about his short prison term.
Here’s what he wrote.
Liam Cunliffe , Is a happy bunni all I can say. DROPPED!! YAA X
The big 1 yaa haha x
Im only looking at 6 months haha bring it on easy! x
He ended up with two years and was quite surprised by the change of his term.
Here’s a comment from our Wardmom that sums up what many feel.
Meanwhile the killers and criminals are running amuck in our society - and then given plea bargains to get out of jail in no time at all. Tell me why at all a paedophile should ever, ever be released back into a society populated with children - or a murderer? Time in jail does nothing to ‘rehabilitate’ them nor make them less of a threat to innocent people. Kill them and free the people to not live in fear or danger. Toss the terrorists into that - and a few politicians - and the world would be a much better place.
Wardmama4
I suspect the majority of law abiding citizens feel the same. But hell. Who listens to them? It’s enough of a headache for politicians to keep their election war chests topped up, without having to worry about the petty concerns of those who are most at risk.
So anyway, here’s our latest WTF were they thinking.
Take a look.
Rapist released early attacked new victim within weeks
A rapist who was freed after serving just half his sentence sexually assaulted another woman weeks later.By Mark Hughes, Crime Correspondent
Fabian Thomas, 23, was released in December last year after serving four years of an eight-year sentence for rape. He struck again in February, attacking a woman in a supermarket car park.
The Home Office is now investigating the case. It comes just weeks after Kenneth Clarke, the Justice Secretary, had to apologise following his defence of Government proposals to halve prison sentences for rapists who plead guilty early.
He suggested that some rapes were less serious than others. A Home Office spokesman said a review would be carried out into how Thomas was managed while on probation. But women’s groups and politicians seized on the case last night as an example of the consequences of letting rapists out of prison early.
Sadiq Khan, the shadow justice secretary, called on the Government to clarify its position on maximum sentences.
Angie Conroy, of Rape Crisis, said: “Letting him out early was an accident waiting to happen.”
Thomas’s first offence was on New Year’s Day 2006 when he twice raped and threatened to kill a girl, aged 17, in an alley in Taunton, Somerset.
He was sentenced in December 2006 to eight years in a young offenders’ institution. In December 2010 he was released and on Feb 20 he committed his second attack, when he attempted to rape a woman, aged 19, in a supermarket car park while brandishing a hunting knife and wearing a balaclava.
He admitted the attack at Plymouth Crown Court on Monday and will be sentenced at a date yet to be set.
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Friday - June 03, 2011
Hope They Had Insurance
Ok, now that I’ve used up almost all of my bowling puns ...
Pinheads strike it rich in 80G bowling-alley heist
Two armed robbers hit pay dirt when they stuck up a Brooklyn bowling alley—hauling away $80,000 in cash that had just been collected for tournament winners.
An employee of the bowling alley had just walked out Maple Lanes’ back door, on 60th Street near 16th Avenue, at about 4 p.m. Wednesday when the gunmen forced him back inside, police sources said.
The thieves hit one worker in the head with the butt of a gun, then rounded up the four employees in the place, ordered them to lie face down on the floor, and proceeded to bind their hands with duct tape, the sources said.
The thugs, each described as wearing dark clothing, sunglasses and a cap, then stuffed the money into a trash bag and fled.
The cash had been collected earlier in the day as proceeds for three bowling leagues. Some of it had been earmarked for tourney winners later in the day.
None of the employees reported suffering any serious injuries, police said.
Maple Lanes is one of the last remaining regular bowling centers in Brooklyn NY, in the Bensonhurst neighborhood. They’ve been a family owned business for over 50 years, the business passing from father to son. The LaSpina family also owns several other bowling centers in Queens and Long Island. The alley has 48 lanes.
We are not getting the whole story here or the correct one; no league puts more than 5 bowlers on a team, so even if the 3 leagues mentioned each took up all the lanes, that would imply that each bowler paid $111 for that week’s bowling. No. Not gonna happen. $20, maybe $25 tops. No sensible business keeps weeks worth of cash on hand either; they take it to the bank every day.
I’ve never been to this place, but a little web research shows that they run an annual scholarship tournament which raises $60,000 or more. That’s my first guess although it’s pure conjecture because I don’t have their schedule; it looks like the Peter J LaSpina Sr Memorial Scholarship Tournament was run back in April, but they could certainly have more than one such tourney per year. Perhaps the tournament runs across several months; the weekly bowling paper (see pg 3) implies that it is now over. Yes, there is a weekly bowling paper. Actually there are many many local editions of it across the country.
The only other reason I could see for them to have that much cash on hand would be if the three leagues were all doing their prize payout that day. Figure teams of 4, $6.50 per bowler per week into the prize fund, 30 week season, full size leagues of 34 teams ... yeah, that’s 80 grand. And the prize payouts are always in cash. And the last of the winter leagues have ended by now. Knowing all of this would imply some kind of an inside job; no one not familiar with several of the leagues in that particular bowling center would have this kind of knowledge.
Maple Lanes is located in a demographically dynamic area; right now it’s smack dab in the middle of a big Jewish neighborhood with a synagogue right across the street. But a changing democgraphic makes for an uncertain future for the lanes, because the cold truth is that some demographic groups just aren’t into bowling. There have been plans afoot for several years now to rezone the property and to sell the land to apartment builders.
So who knows? I just hope that they followed USBC’s directive and had everything insured. That’s what it’s there for.
Which reminds me, as President of the little rinky dink summer league I’m on, I’d better get to my bowling alley and see if I have to sign papers and stuff. Including the insurance policy, just in case. Yes, I’m the president. I didn’t get elected; I volunteered. I have to talk to the owner about the schedule too; after 3 weeks of bowling it looks like we only have 5 teams, not the 8 we thought we would. Bowling is not doing so well in my part of the state.
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Wednesday - June 01, 2011
law and disorder and no one listening
A couple of stories popped up and the need to share this awful stuff is overwhelming.
What’s this country coming to? Sadly .... this. There is no punishment cruel enough for these sorts of low life pond scum. Look for things to get much worse as I do not believe the system in place is capable of dealing with them.
Which of course encourages more of the same.
Sick vandals behead 18 birds, and slaughter frogs and fish in ‘shocking’ attack at park wildlife attraction
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
Last updated at 6:07 PM on 1st June 2011The bodies of two of the birds killed by mindless thugs at Wythenshawe Park in Manchester
Vandals beheaded 18 birds, stamped a frog to death and poisoned hundreds of fish by pouring fertiliser into a pond after breaking into a family wildlife attraction.
Police said the level of cruelty was ‘shocking and distressing’.The yobs also caused more than £10,000 worth of damage at the Horticultural Centre in Wythenshawe Park in Manchester, as they chopped down trees and smashed 130 windows.
They broke into the park some time between 4.30pm on Sunday and 10am the next day.
Councillor Mike Amesbury, Manchester City Council’s executive member for culture and leisure, said: ‘This is a sickening act of cruelty and vandalism, causing significant damage to a centre which has been enjoyed by generations of people.‘I know that everything possible is being done to catch those responsible for this appalling crime and bring them to justice.’
Pc Terina Wild, of the Northenden Neighbourhood Policing Team, said: ‘The level of vandalism and cruelty shown by the offenders is shocking and distressing.
Laughing at the law: The thug who’s been convicted 40 times for 73 crimesBy JAYA NARAIN
When it comes to breaking the law James Gelling has few equals. At just 23 he has one of the worst criminal records in Britain.
His 40 convictions for 73 separate offences include robbery, burglary, assault and possessing a dangerous dog.
But as he was jailed yet again – this time for 12 weeks for attacking his ex-girlfriend – MPs called for an end to ‘revolving door’ soft sentences for offenders like him.Gelling’s record began at 13 when he was sentenced to 18 months in a youth offenders’ institution for robbery, theft and assault.
On his release in 2002 he was handed a three-year Asbo for a catalogue of offences in the seaside town of Southport.With his siblings Jordan, 11, and Ashley, 12, the notorious ‘Gelling Brothers’ were ‘named and shamed’ for the reign of terror which left residents living in fear.
Dr Pugh warned then that Asbos were a badge of honour among youths like Gelling and asked for a new approach to serial offenders. He said: ‘We need an altogether new, more robust series of measures to clamp down on thugs and louts. Asbos don’t work with people who don’t care about receiving them.’District Judge Michael Abelson warned Gelling he would be locked up every time he breached probation orders attached to his release from jail. Inspector Tony Jones, neighbourhood officer for Southport, said: ‘All we can do is react and put him before the courts – the rest is up to him.’
This week a report revealed that almost two thirds of criminals avoid jail despite amassing at least 15 convictions.
Instead of being put behind bars, more than 62,000 offenders were given lesser punishments, such as community service or a fine, last year. More than 4,000 walked out of court with only a caution. The figures reveal that serial offenders are less likely to be given a jail sentence today than at any time in the past decade.
See one thing wrong even now? Read Tony Jones again. What’s in his water? He says the rest is up to the criminal in this article. Huh? That isn’t the way it should be. That kind of attitude is what’s wrong and broken about this system.
No,no. It should be up to the law and the courts to put ppl like this away for good or in the case of someone like this, capital punishment.
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Tuesday - May 24, 2011
law and disorder but damn little justice
Things never change except the lame excuses. And a jury that can be so dumb as to buy the argument of diminished responsibility.
There’s a couple of bothersome stories left over from a day ago.
In one case a 15 year old thick lipped jungle bunny stone cold killer, who blew away a young woman for £200 and also to impress da boyz in de hood. Typical I guess. Another case of the white man’s burden cept there’s a gang of the brutish sub human black bastards. Given life which is doubtful what he’ll serve, the judge referred to him a child. Child? At 15, even in my far off innocent days 15 was no child. Yeah I know. In the eyes of the law yadda,yadda. We all know the law’s pretty much an ass.
The other story is really one for the books though. This concerns a white killer who isn’t any better then the black gang mentioned above.
Here’s another creep who planned the killing of his wife. He’d already threatened her with a knife, and she was frightened enough to hire a bodyguard and start divorce proceedings.
Well, he decided he had to kill her and so went out and went to the trouble of digging a grave AND, even going so far as to make a coffin lined with heavy plastic so it wouldn’t leak. He buried her in a place authorities say nobody but he would ever find. And it was only found because he led the cops there.
Now that’s a lot of planning folks. Seems to me he knew exactly what he was doing. Ah but the jury in their infinite stupidity or else naive beyond belief, bought into the old manslaughter due to diminished responsibility ploy. He didn’t use the knife after all btw. He decided on a hammer instead.
The article doesn’t state where the bodyguard was or if she’d dispensed with the service. Read all the story for yourself.
Diminished responsibility indeed. In a pig’s eye. Another killer with another excuse to justify a cold blooded killing. At some point you all know damn well some shrink will declare that his shrunken mental state is restored to normal and his responsibility is clear to go. What he deserves is a death in the very same manner he gave his wife. No hope of that however.
British Airways pilot who dug grave in park cleared of murdering his wifeRobert Brown, a British Airways pilot who dug a grave in a park weeks before killing his wife Joanna was today cleared of her murder.
By Victoria Ward, Nigel Bunyan and Andrew Hough 11:39AM BST 24 May 2011
Brown, 47, killed his wife in a hammer attack on the doorstep of her sprawling, mock-Tudor mansion near Ascot, following a costly divorce battle.
He wrapped her blood-soaked body in plastic sheeting and buried her in a carefully constructed plastic coffin he had lowered into a quiet corner of a park several weeks earlier.Yesterday, a jury cleared Brown of murder. He had earlier admitted manslaughter by means of diminshed responsibility claiming he was suffering extreme stress during the divorce. He was also convicted of preventing a coroner from holding an inquest by disposing of a body.
During his eight-day trial, Reading Crown Court heard claims that the airline captain had become consumed with greed, desperate to win a large slice of his wife’s fortune, despite having signed a pre-nuptial agreement which prevented him from doing so.
It was claimed he had dismissed Mrs Brown’s offer of a £500,000 settlement and wanted her £3 million house in Ascot, Berks.
And then we have the sad case of bongo-bongo- bongo I don’t wanna leave the Congo and we all wish your ancestors hadn’t.
This is the worst part about slavery. We’re now stuck with them. Millions of em just breeding like fuckin flies.
Teenage hitman, 15, who was caught on CCTV gunning down innocent mother is jailed for life
Last updated at 12:21 PM on 24th May 2011* Half-brother convicted of murder of lawyer Tom ap Rhys Pryce in 2006
* Cousin given life sentence over shooting of Lee Subaran in 2004
* Judge lifts order granting him anonymityA teenage hitman who was caught on CCTV shooting a young mother dead was jailed for life with a minimum term of 20 years at the Old Bailey today.
Santre Sanchez Gayle, 15, was paid just £200 to carry out the murder of Gulistan Subasi – a fee he used to buy a gold Dolce and Gabbana beanie hat.
The boy, known by the street name Riot, will spend at least two decades behind bars after being convicted of the cold-blooded murder, described by a Judge Stephen Kramer as ‘an efficient, ruthless and calculated execution’.
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There was sobbing from the public gallery as the killers were taken down to begin their sentences.
Judge told Gayle that his ‘youth and immaturity’ were factors in the crime.But he added: ‘Anyone seeing the short but telling CCTV clip of the shooting cannot but be struck by the chillingly deliberate and cold-blooded way in which you went about your business.’
The judge described Gayle as a low-level cannabis dealer who expected to be paid £2,000 for the murder but was short-changed and only paid £200.
‘You were an easily-led, immature youngster, who, if money was involved, was capable of violence out of loyalty, having cynically been used by others.
‘You shot and killed Gulistan for money, and at the bidding of an older man who you were trying to impress.’
The judge said it was not possible to say who was behind the killing or who recruited Billy to find someone to carry it out.
Miss Subasi had been staying with her mother at the time and was about to celebrate the birthday of her young child.
The judge told her killers: ‘You have deprived a mother of a much-loved daughter and a son of his mother.’
Idiot judges just love the sound of their own voices. Why is he telling these darkies what they already know? Does he think they have the capacity to care?
In yesterday’s edition of this article, the 15 yr old was bragging about what he’d done, and telling friends that he left no telling evidence behind. And as for ‘youngster,’ I don’t think that has anything to do with it. At any age this thug was merely reverting to type. I shouldn’t say reverting cos that infers he may not have always been that way. But of course he was. You only have to look at he and his sub species friends to see that. Their natural habitat is not the streets of a civilized country but running half naked through a jungle somewhere eating raw meat.
There’s yet another story of a father and son stabbed while trying to help someone being attacked by a gang, but I’ll leave things with this tired subject that’s much beloved by critics of the American penal system, and why the hell do they care anyway?
What I have posted here is very much edited. The original article has more to do with things relating to the UK then the USA.
But the subject of America jailing it’s citizens as though every single miscreant were actually an American is maddening. I think these ppl paint if not an incorrect picture then certainly one that is slanted. Read her for yourself and see.
The Right has learnt to play the game of magpie politicsAs Barack Obama lands in Britain, on both sides of the Atlantic traditional Left-wing issues are being hijacked , says Mary Riddell.
Today, the leader of the free world will sweep into London behind the twin shield of a bomb-proofed Cadillac and the aura of glory conferred on him by Osama bin Laden’s execution. As Barack Obama told the American people after the killing: “We can do these things not just because of wealth and power, but because of who we are: one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”
Mr Obama’s discussions with David Cameron will centre on how that prospectus can prevail across the planet. Back in the US, however, the president’s claims to be the guardian of universal liberty strike a hollow note. As the 2.4 million citizens serving time could testify, the land of the free is the most punitive developed nation on Earth.
One American adult in 100 is behind bars, rising to one in nine among young black men. The quadrupling of incarceration since 1970 cannot be explained by the brutishness of Americans, who are marginally less criminally inclined, though slightly more homicidal, than the English, or by the success of harsh sentencing: violent offences have risen for four decades.
Newt Gingrich, the former speaker of the House of Representatives and a presidential hopeful. It would be hardly more startling to discover that Attila the Hun was an early advocate of the Human Rights Act than to learn that Mr Gingrich is now the US’s leading prison reformer. Among the other campaigners who bear no discernible resemblance to Elizabeth Fry is Grover Norquist, an architect of thumb-in-your-eye Republicanism who wants the state “shrunk down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub”.
The US’s radical Rightists have not transmogrified into angels of mercy. Their fiscally driven mission is based on the $68 billion cost of maintaining a corrections system where inmate numbers are increasing 13 times faster than the general population. As Mr Gingrich wrote recently: “These facts should trouble every American.” More imprisonment, as he added, does not mean less crime. Those states, such as New York, that have jailed fewer people have also seen offences drop. With the majority of convicts reoffending, it is time, in Mr Gingrich’s opinion, to shut some prisons and rely on “more humane, effective alternatives”.
Barack Obama will this week visit a Europe where the Left is on the run. Its leading figures have sleepwalked to obliteration – or perp-walked, in the case of Dominique Strauss-Kahn – and their resurrection will be made harder by today’s magpie politics, in which the Right steals the traditional causes of the Left.
Last week, Henry Kissinger, a Cold War veteran, flew into Britain to make the case for global nuclear disarmament. As Dr Kissinger told me, he is “confident” of progress on an issue on which the parliamentary Left, which long ago burnt its CND cards, has little to say.
No matter what the lady says here, seems to me that the UK can do with a few more prisons if they aren’t gonna bring back the rack and rope.
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- Stay involved with government on every level and don't let those bastards get away with a thing
- Use every legal means to defend yourself in the event of real internal trouble, and, most importantly:
- Keep talking to each other, whether here or elsewhere
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Oh, and here's some kind of visitor flag counter thingy. Hey, all the cool blogs have one, so I should too. The Visitors Online thingy up at the top doesn't count anything, but it looks neat. It had better, since I paid actual money for it.








